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PPP Predicts Turner In A GOP Upset In NY-9
New York Daily News ^ | September 12, 2011 | Celeste Katz

Posted on 09/12/2011 3:26:50 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot

More bad news for Democrat David Weprin as we head into the final hours before voters hit the polls in NY-9: A new Public Policy Polling survey shows Republican Bob Turner leading him by 47-41%. “If Republicans win this race on Tuesday it’s real-world evidence of how unpopular Barack Obama is right now,” said PPP President Dean Debnam. “Approval polls are one thing, but for the GOP to win in a heavily Democratic district like this would send a strong message about how unhappy voters are.”

A Siena poll released Friday also found Turner ahead by six points in the battle to replace ex-Rep. Anthony Weiner.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: newyork; obama; turner; weiner; weprin
Quote from PPP President Dean Debnam:

"55% of voters in the district report having voted for Obama in 2008, which is the actual percentage of the vote he got in the district. Last year, a lot of the races Democrats lost were because their voters didn't show up and the electorate was far more conservative than for a Presidential year. When you lose that way you can say, 'Well, our voters will come back out in 2012 and we'll be fine.' But there is no enthusiasm gap here. Obama voters are showing up in the same numbers they did in 2008. But only 65% of them are voting Democratic. That's a really big cause for concern."

1 posted on 09/12/2011 3:26:52 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot
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To: Palmetto Patriot

If you look at the endorsements of Turner from heavy hitters like Koch, Giuliani and Hikind and compare then to this poll, you can see Turner pulling this out. Weprin doesn’t even live in the district. This will be a fantastic defeat for Chucky Shummer. He hand picked Weprin and is making sure he has plenty of cash. The Rats will point fingers at him for turning his old house seat red.


2 posted on 09/12/2011 3:33:17 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Although Turner could eventually lose the seat due to redistricting, this would be a stunning defeat for Obama that would reverberate across the country.


3 posted on 09/12/2011 3:41:27 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Lazlo in PA

If Turner wins this, more and more Rats will run from Obama. Obama will become a pariah in next year’s election, as far as campaigning for Rat candidates.


4 posted on 09/12/2011 3:41:57 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Starboard
Although Turner could eventually lose the seat due to redistricting, this would be a stunning defeat for Obama that would reverberate across the country.

Better NY 9 get gerrymandered out of existence than a more conservative district.

5 posted on 09/12/2011 3:51:26 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: Lazlo in PA
This will be a fantastic defeat for Chucky...

This seat has not been held by a Republican since the 1920's.

Besides Schumer and Weiner, this seat was once held by Geraldine Ferraro, one time Vice Presidential candidate.

6 posted on 09/12/2011 3:54:52 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: Palmetto Patriot

I think it’s a little more direct evidence of how upset Jews are at Obama.

I wouldn’t read much outside that very tiny sub-group (which happens to dominate this particular neighborhood).


7 posted on 09/12/2011 3:59:40 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Starboard

GOP does have a majority in the NY state senate fwiw. So Turner is the best chance for keeping this district


8 posted on 09/12/2011 4:04:54 PM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
If you look at the endorsements of Turner from heavy hitters like Koch, Giuliani and Hikind and compare then to this poll, you can see Turner pulling this out. Weprin doesn’t even live in the district. This will be a fantastic defeat for Chucky Shummer. He hand picked Weprin and is making sure he has plenty of cash. The Rats will point fingers at him for turning his old house seat red.

The rats cannot afford to lose this. They will win "By Whatever Means Necessary". They will have Armies of the Undead marching on the district from NJ and Long Island if they need to. Be prepared for massive vote fraud.

9 posted on 09/12/2011 4:11:20 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
I wouldn’t read much outside that very tiny sub-group...

Statistically, this district may be pretty close to the national vote.

In 2008, the district went 55%-44% for Obama, while the national vote was 53%-46%.

If you believe that Weprin is a surrogate for Obama, a loss for him should worry Dems a great deal.

10 posted on 09/12/2011 4:15:00 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I would love to see a GOP pickup here in that seat -- even if it's only temporary before the district is gerrymandered out of existence.

But I would also caution about putting too much stock in these results, too. Remember, this is a Congressional seat where the Democrat who previously held it was drummed out of office after one of the most disgraceful (and comical) scandals you'll ever see.

In some ways, this could play out similar to the 2008 race in New York's 13th District, which includes Staten Island and a small part of Brooklyn. In that race in a traditionally Republican district, incumbent Vito Fossella decided not to run for re-election in the aftermath of a DUI scandal that later grew into a sex scandal when details of the case emerged. Democrat Michael McMahon won the 2008 election in that district, only to lose in 2010 to political neophyte and Tea Party candidate Michael Grimm.

11 posted on 09/12/2011 4:42:42 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: PapaBear3625

Rat fraud is always in effect, but if this poll is correct, which I think it is in comparison to others, 6% is a hard number for Rats to overcome with fraud. Plus having big Rat players like Hikind and Koch involved make the obvious routes for cheating tough to hide. They are very respected old school Rats in that area.


12 posted on 09/12/2011 4:43:53 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I wouldn’t read much outside that very tiny sub-group (which happens to dominate this particular neighborhood).

I hope the Dems think just this way. This is as bad or worse than losing the black base.


13 posted on 09/12/2011 4:48:28 PM PDT by Recon Dad ("Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way..")
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To: Palmetto Patriot

Nope,gonna be recounts til the Dem wins—their machine is too well entrenched there.


14 posted on 09/12/2011 4:51:42 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Count to ten when dealing with fools--with liberals make it twenty.")
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15 posted on 09/12/2011 6:00:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

There are enough Jews to matter in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. I also expect to see a serious reduction in donations to Obama from Jews who are not in government dependent industries.


16 posted on 09/12/2011 7:51:08 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Alberta's Child

The Conservative Party isn’t supporting Weprin, like they did for McMahon in a corrupt deal in 2008.


17 posted on 09/12/2011 8:07:58 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Palmetto Patriot

I’m glad that Democrats are finally creating jobs - for Republicans.


18 posted on 09/13/2011 4:21:51 AM PDT by YourAdHere (Joey Greco '12)
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