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Greta Interview with Palin and Bachman: Disgusting innuendo about Perry
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Posted on 09/12/2011 7:40:37 PM PDT by indianrightwinger

I saw the GOP debate and the Greta interview with Palin and Bachman. I am absolutely against Perry's mandate of the Gardasil vaccine. On policy grounds. Period.

But, to see the two ladies pile on with corruption charges against Perry was truly disgusting. If they have any proof that Perry mandated the vaccine to profit Merck, I am the first one who wants it. And, if proof emerges that he did so, I will be the first one to revoke my support for him.

It happens in the industry all the time. Acquaintances get you an audience. So, in this case, the fact that Perry's previous staffer was a lobbyist must have gotten the meeting. A meeting to hear about this wonderous cancer curing drug. Nothing corrupt about it. Is there more to the reason Perry made such a call? Possible/Probable. Evidence of it? None so far.

Come on. Do Palin and Bachman have to resort to gutter politics to get themselves better positioned?


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1 posted on 09/12/2011 7:40:43 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

LOL Tell it to St Rick’s cronies. LOL


2 posted on 09/12/2011 7:42:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Sarah blundered unless she knows something more.


3 posted on 09/12/2011 7:42:08 PM PDT by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: indianrightwinger
"The vaccine, Gardasil, is manufactured by Merck,
which was represented in Austin by the lobbyist Mike Toomey,
who was chief of staff for Mr. Perry from 2002 to 2004. "


2007
On 2/7/07, the WSJ reported that Merck was desperate for cash.
With estimates that the settlements Merck will owe for its Vioxx litigation
will amount to approximately $970 million, and the expiration of some of its patents,
Merck faces a huge cash flow problem.
But if Gardasil is mandated, Merck will generate sales of approximately
$1 billion in the first year alone, with 5 year revenue projections of up to $4 billion"


2007
In 2007, when Texas governor Rick Perry issued
an executive order that all girls entering the 6th grade
would receive Gardasil, parents were furious.
Some argued that the vaccine would promote promiscuity.
The order was eventually overturned."


"Critics rip Perry's vaccine mandate
Governor rejects opponents' calls to reverse order
AUSTIN - Gov. Rick Perry stood firm Monday against a political firestorm generated by his
order that sixth-grade girls be inoculated against a sexually transmitted virus linked to cervical cancer.
Social conservatives from Texas to Washington called on Perry to reverse his order making
Texas the first state to require the vaccine, saying the mandate makes sex seem permissible
and that parents should be the ones to decide whether to immunize their daughters.
And several Texas lawmakers expressed outrage at Perry for circumventing the legislative process. "


"RP65 - Relating to the immunization of young women
from the cancer-causing Human Papillomavirus.
Friday, February 02, 2007 o Executive Order
BY THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS
Rules.The Health and Human Services Executive Commissioner
shall adopt rules that mandate the age appropriate vaccination
of all female children for HPV prior to admission to the sixth grade."


The definition of mandate is a command by a person,
group, or organization (the 'mandator') to another
(the 'mandatary') to act in a particular way, or here
to ingest, inject, imbed a poison or other substance
they do not want and for which informed consent was
never taken.


BACKGROUND
There are over 40 Types of HPV, and 15 of them
have been linked to cervical cancer and/or genital warts.
Gardasil has been developed to vaccinate
against the 4 Types that have the highest
correlation with cancer and genital warts.
However, unlike the smallpox vaccine, for example,
Gardasil does not grant full immunity to those 4 Types of HPV.
Gardasil offers no protection against the other
11 strains of HPV that have been linked to cervical cancer. "


2009
Merck and the Gardasil Vaccine Show Us the Money
First there was the news that Gardasil sales had dropped by 16% in 2008.
As CNBC’s Mike Huckman bluntly put it,
“From the third quarter of last year to the fourth quarter
Gardasil sales fell off a cliff… Merck officials said part of the Gardasil problem
is that so many 11-18 year-old females have already been
inoculated that they're running out of new customers.
And the 19-26 year-old population continues to be a marketing challenge.”"


2010
The main problem with Gardasil seems to be the equivalent of a design flaw.
To be completely immunized, women have
to get a series of three shots over six months.
Many women don't.
The Centers for Disease Control reported in late
August that while 44% of teenagers received the HPV vaccine in 2009,
only 27% of them received all three doses of the shot.
Unfortunately, there isn't evidence to support
that getting only one shot effectively protects against cancer. "


2011
CDC: "As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil®
were distributed in the U.S. and VAERS received a total
of 18,727 reports of adverse events

As of June 22, 2011 there have been a total 68 VAERS reports
of death among those who have received Gardasil®."


"Foaming at the mouth, shock, seizures, paralysis,
coma-even death have been reported
as a result of taking the vaccine Gardasil from Merck ... "


"Gardasil Causes 400 Percent More Deaths than Other Common Vaccine
A federal report has concluded that the human papillomavirus (HPV)
vaccine Gardasil has a 400 percent higher rate of adverse effects
than another comparable vaccine, the Menactra anti-meningitis shot. "

4 posted on 09/12/2011 7:43:58 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: indianrightwinger
They also have all kinds of mandates on lots of other vaccines. Why are we singling out the HPV vaccine. If it is wrong to mandate one of them, it's wrong to mandate all of them.

This is a non issue.

5 posted on 09/12/2011 7:44:43 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma ( You cannot elevate Palin by tearing down Perry)
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To: indianrightwinger

If either one has proof, it is something to discuss. If not, it is just speculation and a low blow to sucker punch Rich Perry.

Although, it is better to have this discussion now instead of leading up to the general.


6 posted on 09/12/2011 7:45:17 PM PDT by Allison_Wonderland
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To: PALIN SMITH

Sarah just had 25,000 emails reviewed. Sarah doesn’t just put things out there. She knows something or she would not have taken up for Bachman so fervently tonight.


7 posted on 09/12/2011 7:45:19 PM PDT by Sallygal
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To: indianrightwinger
Disgusting?

How about true....now that's disgusting....

Live with it chief, it's absolutely true, the man is up to his neck with his cronies in business.

8 posted on 09/12/2011 7:45:37 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: PALIN SMITH

I had to turn it off. I agree. Until you have evidence... With that said, I think they all did well except for huntsman. I still think he is an obama plant.


9 posted on 09/12/2011 7:46:08 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: indianrightwinger
Disgusting innuendo about Perry

His motivation without the disgusting innuendo could be considered worse.

10 posted on 09/12/2011 7:46:26 PM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Perry rescinded the order and has already said the whole thing was a blunder. They’ll have to do better than that. Look, I’ve been a Palin fan for a long time but either she never intended to run or she now understands that she has played cat and mouse too long.


11 posted on 09/12/2011 7:46:43 PM PDT by Repulican Donkey
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To: indianrightwinger

You obviously did not follow this when it first occurred as I did....because I had been warning people about this vaccine. Rick Perry made a dumb decision and when called out by parents warring against him....he backed off....this is precisely what Sarah Palin has been talking about...politicians listening to outside interests influencing their decisions which affect each of our lives. After the outrage over his mandating this be given to all girls over age 12, it came to light about his connection with Merck....go back and read this as it happened...and make your own mind up.


12 posted on 09/12/2011 7:46:49 PM PDT by imfrmdixie (A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. Eisenhower)
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To: PALIN SMITH

I had to turn it off. I agree,until you have evidence... With that said, I think they all did well except for huntsman. I still think he is an obama plant.


13 posted on 09/12/2011 7:47:00 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: indianrightwinger

When you’re a bottom tier candidate and have nothing else to offer, you bring up the low class negative attacks. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was Rollins’ idea.


14 posted on 09/12/2011 7:47:00 PM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: cripplecreek
Perry CoS to lobbiest creates the appearance of impropriety. Not even arguable.

Doesn't matter how much money changes hands. It is that appearance that contributes to citizens mistrust of government.

15 posted on 09/12/2011 7:47:12 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: indianrightwinger

SO Palin attack Perry about allege crony capitalism? SO its’ even more certain she will endorse Perry!! /s

That’s all we hear from fake-A** Freepers after Sarah repeated has mark differences between her and Perry since he announces at that Saturday and yet some trolls keep pushing that garbage....you might not like what Palin said but Im glad she said it to make the jerks around look like fools pushing the same tire old meme


16 posted on 09/12/2011 7:47:35 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: PALIN SMITH

I had to turn it off. I agree,until you have evidence... With that said, I think they all did well except for huntsman. I still think he is an obama plant.


17 posted on 09/12/2011 7:47:52 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: imfrmdixie

How exactly does that prove that Perry did it to profit Merck? That is exactly the “claim” (innuendo) by Palin and Bachman.


18 posted on 09/12/2011 7:48:41 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

What was wrong about it was that the drug was not tested long enough. He made it a mandate that a person had to go to the trouble to opt out of.

Of course the men were not required.

It has a very ugly appearance, no matter how you slice it, when you take any money at all from the company who made a drug you were forcing on to people.

Nobody can prove intent, but if a dem had done it, we would be screaming.


19 posted on 09/12/2011 7:49:13 PM PDT by dforest
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To: indianrightwinger

I suppose everyone has their price. But very few people at Perry’s level will sell their souls for a measly 5K contribution. Bachmann knows this.

I have no idea how her attack will play. I just know I was disappointed in her.

(BTW, I agree that the mandate was a mistake, even with the opt-out.)


20 posted on 09/12/2011 7:49:33 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: PALIN SMITH

Sarah knows nothing...THERE IS NOTHING TO KNOW.


21 posted on 09/12/2011 7:50:38 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Listen, grasshopper. PerryCARE (Gardasil by RINO Order)
profited Perry (a little), his Chief of Staff (bingo)
and many others. Everyone that knew in advance.

How special is that?


22 posted on 09/12/2011 7:50:48 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

So what. Where is the corruption there. Just a bunch a babble about a drug company and its drug. Apparently you don’t have any kids. Do you know how many immunizations are required to allow your kid to go to public school and that they are NOT OPT OUT. Find some evidence of corruption or be prepared for me to be laugh at.


23 posted on 09/12/2011 7:51:14 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: indylindy

It was a terrible policy decision on behalf of Perry. On multiple grounds. But, to accuse him of being corrupt and having mandated it to profit Merck is just downright ugly.


24 posted on 09/12/2011 7:51:55 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: indianrightwinger

Perry to parents: I deem you irrelevant by Executive Order. It should have been up to the parents. Some girls died, allegedly after it. I never allowed my children to take medicines less than 20 years old. If a med is going to adversely affect them or their future children I want to know. Anything rushed or mandated makes me weary. If it is truly a medical Miracle it will not need a mandate. The simple fact that medicines can form immune complexes that deposit on tissues assures me we do not understand long term issues with any medication.


25 posted on 09/12/2011 7:52:31 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Look out Left Coast, we are coming and we have Bibles and Guns! LOL)
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To: Diogenesis

Chief of staff, lobbyist, smells like a re-fried Texas skunk.


26 posted on 09/12/2011 7:52:43 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: indianrightwinger
Bachmann has continued to show herself to be a lightweight candidate. The red meat stuff might be great for fundraising, but each day she has look more desperate and irrelevant. She'll be lucky to make it past Iowa.
27 posted on 09/12/2011 7:53:02 PM PDT by festusbanjo (This is what happens when you hire a guy to run the country that hadn't run anything but his mouth)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Gardasil was not tested in children.

The chaste children of Texas were LAB RATS, bunko.

To a RINO that is not corruption, it is opportunity, right?


28 posted on 09/12/2011 7:53:07 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: indianrightwinger

Rick Perry is nothing more then what she said, a crony capitalist. As far as I’m concerned he’s done.


29 posted on 09/12/2011 7:53:30 PM PDT by stockpirate (Rick Perry, another New World Order crony....)
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To: indianrightwinger; Diogenesis; All

It is widely known that Perry mandated the use of gardasil for school children, and that gardasil is a very dangerous drug.

Diogenesis has assembled links to some of the numerous relevant articles about this.

It makes sense to have shots for some diseases. Mandating that young schoolgirls should be required to get dangerous and questionable shots useful only against STDs was just plain WRONG.


30 posted on 09/12/2011 7:54:08 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Bachman was over the top on this. What a nasty drama queen she turned out to be. I used to like her. Not only is she not going to be president, I hope she loses her congressional seat.


31 posted on 09/12/2011 7:54:18 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: cripplecreek

I’m absolutely shocked, a thieving politician makes money for his cronies at taxpayer expense.

But this will continue until every American supports taking each and every one of them out to the woodshed regardless of Party. Instead of tolerating crooked politicians they need to be ostracized and removed from ever having influence again over USA citizens.

We need ZERO TOLERANCE of corruption or kickbacks for any official from cops to POTUS’s that have taken an oath of office regardless of their Party. They need to be fearful of even having the appearance of cronyism or corruption.


32 posted on 09/12/2011 7:54:22 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: indianrightwinger

Well, Merck would have profited.


33 posted on 09/12/2011 7:54:33 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Bigtigermike

That was one nonsensical post.


34 posted on 09/12/2011 7:54:58 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: cripplecreek
Please give the list of these supposed cronies or stop the smearing .

Its off how so called “concerned” Perry haters adopt the talking points of the Soros media like this crony capitalism left wing talking point !

35 posted on 09/12/2011 7:55:07 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: indianrightwinger

During that debate, Perry said he got $5,000 from Merck, adn he raised $30M. He said to Bachmann: If you think I can be bought for $5,000, I am offended”. It left her speechless. This was the right response against such ludicrous accusations which are nothing more than smears.

Bachmann should be ashamed of herself.


36 posted on 09/12/2011 7:55:07 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I have been looking for clerical work and there have been some good positions I have seen in some of the hospitals here. However, if one gets hired for a clerical position, they must show proof of immunization records and have all shots current, as well as getting a TB test.

I know these women are harping on the HPV vaccine but there is an opt out for that.

These shots do not just affect kids, they can affect adults as well.


37 posted on 09/12/2011 7:55:28 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: Donnafrflorida

Actually Huntsman did pretty well, for this debate at least. He didn’t say anything anti-conservative such as defending Romneycare mandates or tuition breaks for illegals. His tax plan is pretty good. We do know he has a problem with social issues but they weren’t really mentioned.

But Ron Paul was the biggest loser after his attempt to ‘understand’ al qaeda. And everyone will be talking about the idiot who said Yes!


38 posted on 09/12/2011 7:55:34 PM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: Diogenesis

bookmark. Thanks for posting this information.


39 posted on 09/12/2011 7:55:39 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: indianrightwinger

I believe it is rational for the big drug companies to make the case for their products, even to our elected officials. I do however expect our elected officials to consult with people holding enough varied opinions, that rational decisions can be made, despite the hard sell.

I believe it would be wrong to freeze a company like Merck out, when it comes to a product they think will save lives. I do think there are rational arguments for holding off on going with a government mandate right out of the box, and wiser heads should have prevailed here.

Perry should know, that presenting this information to the Legislature and allowing a lot more discussion would be the best course.

I am astounded that he used the Executive Order for this. I am also astounded that he forced parents and girls opt out, rather than provide access and allow them to opt in.

There’s some seriously flawed logic on his part demonatrated in conjunction with this.

I do think that it is overkill to state this is definitely a case of Perry giving favors to pharmaceutical industry insiders.

That’s pretty tough to prove.


40 posted on 09/12/2011 7:56:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain 5 yrs Left/1 year right "BAD!" - Republicans 3 yrs Right 1 year Left to elect RINOs. "Good?")
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To: indianrightwinger
It's true. These ladies are scrapping for relevance the only way they can at this point. Palin as much as confessing she's a troll, running around trying to stir things up for those who need to be told what to think, while Bachmann...ugh.

Still, the truth is, it's all "out there" on Perry, all his warts -- those things that don't matter a hill of beans to voters looking to climb out of this jobless hole Obama put us in. Perry had the kitchen sink thrown at him and undoubtedly survived. Tonight needed to happen. All good.
41 posted on 09/12/2011 7:56:11 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

The “slut shot”, as I like to call it, is premised on the belief that young girls either should be sexually active or that their promiscuity is inevitable.

There is another way of preventing HPV spread: CHASTITY.


42 posted on 09/12/2011 7:56:24 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: Repulican Donkey
Perry did NOT RESCIND the order. The Texas state legislature passed a law to overturn it and Perry had to sign it.

He COULD have rescinded it and then we could all believe he "made a mistake".

43 posted on 09/12/2011 7:56:28 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: indianrightwinger

. Guard the Borders!! .... "Gard a sil?"

44 posted on 09/12/2011 7:56:28 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: indianrightwinger

Baloney.....if this tactic bothers you I’d say you’re a bit delicate aren’t you ??........Politics ain’t bean bag....Palin has to take out Perry first before she guts Romney....and Bachmann is the pit bull on this.....and it plays into Palin’s main theme against Crony capitalism.......Perry is in the big leagues now.


45 posted on 09/12/2011 7:57:09 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: indianrightwinger

It’s just a where-there’s-smoke-there’s-fire thing, coupled with other instances here in Texas when government peograms backed by Perry had funny-money issues.

His bullheaded determination to force the Trans-Texas Corridor down our throats, despite ties to the contractor, comes to mind.

But that’s just Perry.

Do I think he’s dirty? Yep. Been watching him for more than a decade, and I just assume his pockets are well-lined by now.

Will I vote for him for President? Probably.

Best we’ve got. I think he can handle the job. He’s tough as nails. He’s generally on my side. That’s more than I can say for the current resident.

We just have to go with what we’ve got.


46 posted on 09/12/2011 7:57:24 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Diogenesis

Not a Candidate vs. a Candidate.


47 posted on 09/12/2011 7:57:28 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: Bigtigermike

Um..not everyone covets a sarah palin endorsement. I really don’t care. She lost me a month ago when she said maybe she’d take another two months to make a decision.

The way I see it she’s either stringing along her supporters to continue to retain some relvance and make money or she is running but too gutless to throw herself out there to have her own record dissected, debated and cast aside. I know...her supporters like to say she’s been vetted but not really. She got to skip Republican national debates and head right to the vice presidential debates with automatic conservative rallying around her.

I maintain my position. Perry is the frontrunner. He’ll have everythign tossed at him. If he emerges not too badly dented he’ll be the nominee. If he doesn’t, Romney may be the nominee. Palin has no shot and I don’t want to vote for Romney soo...I have to cross my fingers and hope perry survives. :)


48 posted on 09/12/2011 7:57:53 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: indianrightwinger
Merck gave his campaign $6,000, either just before or just after.

In case you didn't know, that just doesn't look good.......but neither does the rest of those favors he gave to businesses for campaign $$$.

You can stick your head up your rear end for as long as you want and chant la la la, but this is not a winning issue for him. It's called pay to play the Texas way.

49 posted on 09/12/2011 7:58:00 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: indianrightwinger

I’d like to see a transcript of the show for myself. Did she actually use Perry’s name?


50 posted on 09/12/2011 7:58:09 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry, Perry/Palin, Palin or Perry, Perry or Palin 2012....Any Questions?)
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