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Turkey Dispatches 3 Warships to Eastern Mediterranean
Arutz Sheva ^ | 12/9/11 | Gavriel Queenann

Posted on 09/12/2011 10:02:39 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has dispatched 3 warships to the Eastern Mediterranean to 'defend against Israeli vessels' and ensure 'freedom of navigation' for his country’s ships, Today's Zaman reported.

The move, only the latest in Erdogan's bellicose rhetorical assault on Israel, comes on the same day he called Israel's boarding of the Gaza-bound Mavi Marmara in 2010 "grounds for war" adding only Turkey's "greatness and patience" had averted conflict.

During the boarding action 9 Turkish nationals who participated in a mob that attempted to lynch the commandos were killed when non-lethal weapons the boarding party was equipped with as their primary arms proved insufficient to stop the lethal threat necessitating the use of live fire.

While the UN Palmer Report criticized Israel's use of force resulting in the deaths as "excessive," it also concluded Israel's blockade of Gaza was "legal and appropriate" under international law.

But Erdogan, whose government has rejected the UN stance in the Palmer Report, insists Turkish ships will provide protection for ships bringing humanitarian aid to Gaza and confront Israeli warships outside of Israel's territorial waters if necessary, according to the report.

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(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: easternmed; erdogan; turkey; warships
How to make Turkey Flambe:

Add one dumbass Throw out 80 years of progress Chop up Kurds, Armenians and Greeks to taste Pick a fight with Israel Bake 'til room temperature

1 posted on 09/12/2011 10:02:45 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: nuconvert; txhurl

Ping.


2 posted on 09/12/2011 10:03:47 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Eleutheria5

Add one dumbass Throw out 80 years of progress Chop up Kurds, Armenians and Greeks to taste Pick a fight with Israel Bake ‘til room temperature

Put it under glass. A lot of glass.


3 posted on 09/12/2011 10:04:24 PM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Anyone want to take bets on when WW III breaks out?

This one is gonna get ugly.


4 posted on 09/12/2011 10:08:20 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: CSI007

War is imminent i’m afraid. After the U.N. approves the Palestinian state and Israel rejects the U.N. mandate there will be war.... within days.


5 posted on 09/12/2011 10:14:45 PM PDT by wolfman
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To: Eleutheria5

If I was in the scrap metals business, I would shadow those Greek ships.


6 posted on 09/12/2011 10:20:15 PM PDT by papasmurf (0bama-doing the job Americans won't.)
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To: wolfman

Do you really think 0bama will declare war on them so soon? /sarc


7 posted on 09/12/2011 10:22:00 PM PDT by papasmurf (0bama-doing the job Americans won't.)
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To: papasmurf

They are wise to strike now with Obama in office. he will seek peace and the UN. what would happen if Bush was in power—or Sarah Palin? or Rick Perry? or even Mittens? Its like the Fall of Saigon all over again. Expect an airlift of people out of Israel if the Muslems seize the place with their natural savagery and hate. A good US president could stop this—but we haven’t had one of those in two years!


8 posted on 09/12/2011 10:27:33 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: CSI007

It already did 10 years ago. The past decade was just the first phase. This is the second.


9 posted on 09/12/2011 10:30:52 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“Expect an airlift of people out of Israel if the Muslems seize the place”

Not happening.


10 posted on 09/12/2011 10:38:16 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: CSI007

It’s already under way.


11 posted on 09/12/2011 10:43:39 PM PDT by icanhasbailout
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To: Eleutheria5
I like that title:

"I want 3 warships dispatched to Eastern Mediterranean now! Hello, did I stutter? I said NOW! MOVE MOVE MOVE!!"

12 posted on 09/12/2011 10:54:15 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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To: icanhasbailout

I fear the worst—lets hope I am wrong. Its like the end times or something? where is the Anti-Christ? O I forgot, he’s in the White House with the Great Whore of Babylon.


13 posted on 09/12/2011 10:57:16 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Expect an airlift of people out of Israel

Nope.

Expect millions of dead muslims as Israel uses their tactical battlefield neutron weaponry.

Followed quickly by sabre rattling from Russia and then WW3 begins in earnest as Russia threatens action and Israel reminds them that they can deliver city-buster 1MT weapons on her in minutes.

Pray!

14 posted on 09/12/2011 11:01:06 PM PDT by Bobalu (More rubble, less trouble)
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To: wolfman

I sorta agree. I think the past 10 years have been more of a “cold war” though. All of the players are not on the field yet. Nation states will soon be taking up arms against us and our allies. Sides will be taken and large numbers of people will die.


15 posted on 09/12/2011 11:02:03 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Expect an airlift of people out of Israel if the Muslems seize the place with their natural savagery and hate.

seize the place????

16 posted on 09/12/2011 11:19:13 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO:Satan's Evil Twin)
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To: Eleutheria5

“..and confront Israeli warships outside of Israel’s territorial waters if necessary..”
Maybe trying to look good at home? Does Israel stop them in international or territorial waters?


17 posted on 09/12/2011 11:32:07 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: Eleutheria5
I am looking for the tshirt ..

"Help Roast Turkey!
BENEFIT CONCERT:
ARMS FOR THE KURDISH REBELS!"

18 posted on 09/12/2011 11:40:31 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: lbryce; All

Before anybody panics, let’s look at the reality of this, K?

Operating Warships in potentially enemy waters without air cover is a DEATH SENTENCE for the crews. Erdogan may want to Sabre rattle, but his Air Force is out-classed, and doesn’t have long range capability.

Turkish ground forces massively outnumber the Israelis, but they would have to travel through Lebanon first, with long lines of supply vunerable to air and sea attack. And as soon as they lift the boot off of the Kurds to fight Israel, they will declare independence from Turkey, and cause a civil war.

Jordan won’t want ANYTHING to do with this, Syria has severe internal problems already that a war won’t solve, and Egypt couldn’t field a sizable army right now even if they wanted to.

The Saudi’s and the Gulf States will sit it out. Iraq, Libya and Algeria are no longer capable of projecting military power outside their own borders. Morocco doesn’t want to play, either.

The ONLY wildcard left in the region is IRAN, and there is a buffer called Iraq, as well as internal dissent that could keep them out of it, other than through supporting terrorist actions by their puppets in Lebanon.

Frankly, Israel shouldn’t fear this move much, and even if it turns in to a shooting incident, the Turkish Generals will overthrow Erdogan before he takes them to full-scale ground war.


19 posted on 09/12/2011 11:42:44 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Democrats have been OUTFORCING America's jobs for 40 years)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

We are watching a president in total failure mode. He has nearly destroyed our economy and now we are watching the Middle East collapse and suck in millions of lives because of his failure. Very few presidents in our history would have sat back and let the Middle East spin out of control like it has. The price of oil? The sky is the limit.

The Hildebeast? She is an incompetent Secretary of State.


20 posted on 09/12/2011 11:46:12 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: jonrick46

“We are watching a president in total failure mode.”

Whenever Obama has had a chance to shine, he has chosen to do EXACTLY the wrong things instead, like with PORKULUS, Jr.

Even many Democrats now freely admit this, as well.


21 posted on 09/12/2011 11:57:21 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Democrats have been OUTFORCING America's jobs for 40 years)
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To: tcrlaf

This is about the most sensible analysis of the situation in that region I have heard for a while. Unfortunately and regrettably the only way to quiet things down for a while, not necessarily bring peace in that region will be if one side wins and the other side loses. Not to mention that the religion of “Peace” which dominates this region doesn’t help things either.


22 posted on 09/13/2011 12:09:46 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: tcrlaf

This is about the most sensible analysis of the situation in that region I have heard for a while. Unfortunately and regrettably the only way to quiet things down for a while, not necessarily bring peace in that region will be if one side wins and the other side loses. Not to mention that the religion of “Peace” which dominates this region doesn’t help things either.


23 posted on 09/13/2011 12:10:22 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Eleutheria5
If Turkey screws around the wrong way with Israel, she will send those warships to the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea.
24 posted on 09/13/2011 12:12:28 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Any odds for Obama to say Turkey is acting stupidly?


25 posted on 09/13/2011 12:17:00 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Eleutheria5

A lot more than 10. We lost almost 100,000 KIA in that one. It wasn’t cold.


26 posted on 09/13/2011 1:03:37 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“what would happen if Bush was in power—or Sarah Palin? or Rick Perry? or even Mittens? Its like the Fall of Saigon all over again”

that’s why I will vote for any Republican except ron paul


27 posted on 09/13/2011 1:15:03 AM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: Eleutheria5

And here comes war to solve the economic problems. Right on cue.


28 posted on 09/13/2011 2:14:11 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

The sculptor Gaudier Brzeska wrote to Ezra Pound that wars were made to rid the world of excess humanity. Shortly afterwards, he died in the trenches of WW I. Economic problems? I hope Erdogan’s 72 virgins are all Helen Thomas lookalikes on steroids.


29 posted on 09/13/2011 2:19:54 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Bobalu

This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign LORD. 19 In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign LORD. Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22 I will execute judgment on him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him. 23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD.’


30 posted on 09/13/2011 2:25:28 AM PDT by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: papasmurf

“Do you really think 0bama will declare war on them so soon? /sarc”

Oh, you mean on the Israeli’s? /more sarc


31 posted on 09/13/2011 2:39:29 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: tcrlaf

I hope you are correct, your logic runs true, but we are dealing with an irrational islamicist actor who might be bucking for 72 virgins or the caliphate, either way.


32 posted on 09/13/2011 4:26:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

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33 posted on 09/13/2011 4:35:59 AM PDT by SJackson (Free Palestine, return it to the inhabitants who had the land taken by the Romans, Alan West)
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To: papasmurf

I dunno.
The Med is pretty deep.


34 posted on 09/13/2011 4:39:05 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I want a Triple A president for our Triple A country)
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To: tcrlaf
Excellent analysis. As someone who lived in the region for years, I agree that any attempt at a overland invasion by Turkey would be fraught with difficulty, not the least of which would be the projection of supply lines through Lebanon.

Still, it is interesting that Ezekiel 38 speaks of a future invasion of Israel from the "uttermost parts of the north," led by Gog and Magog. This is historically modern Turkey as well as the Central Asia republics.

Up until recently Turkey was neutralized by its secular government and friendly relations with Israel. However, that has all been turned on its head, and Turkey is rapidly falling in with her Islamic cohorts and assuming a hostile stance towards Israel. One could easily imagine such an invasion should circumstances change, including, for example, a compliant Islamic Republic of Lebanon.

Also curious is that Egypt escapes mention among the nations attacking Israel in that future war. However, in the near term anyway the danger is considerable, not from the a questionable chance of success of armored thrusts through the formidable barrier of the Sinai, but rather from the sky.

Already hundreds of rockets are falling on Israeli territory from Gaza, smuggled from Egypt. It is just a matter of time before the rain of missiles forces Israel to respond militarily, not just against Gaza but also against (potentially future) launch sites in Egyptian territory in the northern Sinai. That, along with the imminent declaration of Palestinian statehood and the ominous threat from Iran, indicates that a cataclysm of biblical proportions may not be far removed.

35 posted on 09/13/2011 4:50:30 AM PDT by tjd1454
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To: flaglady47

Ha ha ha.

We meant that sarcastically, but really, is it that far fetched to imagine him doing so to satisfy his muzzie brothers?


36 posted on 09/13/2011 7:52:34 AM PDT by papasmurf (0bama-doing the job Americans won't.)
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To: Eleutheria5

37 posted on 09/13/2011 11:17:14 AM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: DTA

Is that a Dolphin class sub?


38 posted on 09/13/2011 11:35:47 AM PDT by wolfman
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To: wolfman
I believe it is dolphin class sub
39 posted on 09/13/2011 7:45:31 PM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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