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Palin takes aim at GOP presidential candidates
The Hill ^ | September 12, 2011 | Josh Lederman

Posted on 09/13/2011 7:41:38 AM PDT by AAABEST

Palin even went as far as to lend her voice to the charge leveled by Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) during the debate against Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R): That he allowed a law to go though requiring HPV vaccinations for adolescent girls because of a $5,000 campaign donation and his relationship with his former chief of staff, who went on to lobby for a pharmaceutical company.

"I knew there was something to it," Palin said of learning while she was Alaska's governor that her Texas counterpart had given the go-ahead to the vaccine. "Now we're finding that now, yea, something was up with that issue. It was an illustration or bit of evidence of some crony capitalism."

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KEYWORDS: antivax; bachmann4romney; captaingardasil; gardasil; gardasilrick; merck4perry; palin; palin4romney; payforplay; perry; sarahpalin; youbetcha
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I knew there was something to it," Palin said of learning while she was Alaska's governor that her Texas counterpart had given the go-ahead to the vaccine.

Palin was governor of Alaska from December 2006 until her resignation in July 2009. If she "knew there was something to it" it certainly didn't keep her from wholeheartedly backing Perry at a rally in February, 2010:


"In Washington, they're too often looking out for Wall Street and Rick is looking out for you"


You don't know how proud I am to support Rick Perry."


"I look forward to Texas sending a message on how things get done, because you're doing them right in Texas"

Facts about the Gardasil controversy:

- Contrary to the popular myth, not a single girl in Texas was ever "forced" to get a Gardasil vaccination.

- Perry never advocated "forcing" anyone to get a Gardasil vaccination. The executive order - RP65 -  had an opt out. The "innocent little 12 year old girls or 11 year old girls in state of Texas" who "would be forced by the government to take an injection" would have only existed in Bachmanns mind.

- RP65 not only had an opt-out, but contained language that made it easier for parents to opt their children out of ALL vaccinations.

- Merck contributed around $5,000 to Perry, which works out to be 1/40th of 1% (or 1/4,000th) of Perry's campaign chest.

The idea that Perry would harpoon himself for a measly 5 grand is prepostrous. For Palin (and Bachmann) to accuse him of doing so borders on slander.

YOU BETCHA!

1 posted on 09/13/2011 7:41:46 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST
BIG TARGETS to aim for... slow and cumbersome.

LLS

2 posted on 09/13/2011 7:47:53 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: AAABEST
For Palin (and Bachmann) to accuse him of doing so borders on slander.

I wouldn't go that far... but it does smack of reckless political posturing. And BTW, SARAH, how about joining those debates, vs. standing to the outside taking potshots at the ANNOUNCED candidates???

3 posted on 09/13/2011 7:50:42 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: AAABEST

Let me guess-she hasn’t decided if she’s going to run yet! Time is officially running out for this BS. Nice she could find time to comment on this, but couldn’t announce she’s not running to let those pinning their hopes on her off.


4 posted on 09/13/2011 7:50:42 AM PDT by mrspeelwerneeded
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To: AAABEST

The “innocent little girl” moment will be Bachman’s iconic catch-phrase, like Edwards “son of a mill worker” and Dean with his victory screech......


5 posted on 09/13/2011 7:51:10 AM PDT by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: ScottinVA

As someone who wished she would enter, I have to say she’s doing great damage to herself now. It’s way past time for her to announce either way as she’s injecting herself into it and commenting like this now.


6 posted on 09/13/2011 7:53:15 AM PDT by mrspeelwerneeded
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To: AAABEST

If she said “he allowed a law to go through” she has no business saying anything about this issue because that statement also shows she knows nothing about it.

I don’t know what Palin’s game is.


7 posted on 09/13/2011 7:53:21 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: mrspeelwerneeded
Nice she could find time to comment on this, but couldn’t announce she’s not running to let those pinning their hopes on her off.

Yep. Watching her on Greta's show taking uncontested target practice on those who've made the plunge to run for President, all the while she's still "undecided" comes across as off-putting.

Yes or no, Sarah? In or out?

8 posted on 09/13/2011 7:53:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: mrspeelwerneeded
As someone who wished she would enter, I have to say she’s doing great damage to herself now.

Ditto here. She's jumping the shark.

9 posted on 09/13/2011 7:56:16 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: AAABEST

- Contrary to the popular myth, not a single girl in Texas was ever “forced” to get a Gardasil vaccination. (But this was the Legislature’s doing, and not Perry’s.)

- Perry never advocated “forcing” anyone to get a Gardasil vaccination. The executive order - RP65 - had an opt out. The “innocent little 12 year old girls or 11 year old girls in state of Texas” who “would be forced by the government to take an injection” would have only existed in Bachmanns mind. (The opt out required about six months worth of paperwork and dealing with government officials hostile to your desires and needed to be renewed periodically. It also forced you to opt out of all other immunizations - you could only opt out if you believed all the immunizations were wrong.)

- RP65 not only had an opt-out, but contained language that made it easier for parents to opt their children out of ALL vaccinations. (Because it was all or nothing on the vaccinations.)

- Merck contributed around $5,000 to Perry, which works out to be 1/40th of 1% (or 1/4,000th) of Perry’s campaign chest. (Above the board.)


10 posted on 09/13/2011 7:57:03 AM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: AAABEST
LOL, too rich by half, I next expect you to say you were for Palin in 08, before being against her now.
11 posted on 09/13/2011 7:58:06 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: mrspeelwerneeded

I like Palin’s current role, and I hope she doesn’t run herself.

She is like a border collie herding the sheep in the way they should go. Stray too far in one direction, and she barks and nudges the stray back on the path.

I hope she does not back a specific candidate until there is only one.

Stick to the issues, stick to the facts, act like a leader, and we will win.


12 posted on 09/13/2011 7:58:11 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: AAABEST

Has Governor Perry spoken out against crony capitalism yet?

If not, it’s a very big clue.


13 posted on 09/13/2011 7:58:31 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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To: mrspeelwerneeded

Oh my, was not aware she has to abide by the PDS crowd, and Perry supporters.


14 posted on 09/13/2011 7:59:53 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: ScottinVA

I’m sick and tired of Palin getting free and unchallenged air time to make her points after debates without ever having to facce rebuttal like the actual candidates do. Even without the pressure of being on stage she still found it nearly impossible to string together 2 grammatically correct sentences.


15 posted on 09/13/2011 8:00:20 AM PDT by pgkdan (Perry/Cain 2012)
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To: AAABEST

Palin needs to either get in or get out then shut her mouth. The party needs to stay united to win the battle. Ronald Reagan felt strongly about this principle. Don’t act like your a Reagan believer then break his rules.


16 posted on 09/13/2011 8:01:01 AM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: AAABEST

Has Governor Perry spoken out against the permanent political class yet?

It’s his right to act as though he doesn’t believe in the existence of the permanent political class. But the truth about that is already known to us.

I don’t think any candidate has a viable alternative to this part of Palin’s platform. And it’s the only platform out there that will fix our country’s worst problems.


17 posted on 09/13/2011 8:01:53 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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To: achilles2000
Uh, get your facts straight, Palin did not say that, it was the article saying she did. You know, the usual PDS biddies.
18 posted on 09/13/2011 8:02:26 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: AAABEST

Has Governor Perry spoken out against crony capitalism yet?

If not, it’s a very big clue.


19 posted on 09/13/2011 8:02:34 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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To: AAABEST

I watched that interview, twice. She didn’t attack nor slander Gov. Perry. She was honest, principled and brave in her comments. Exactly the qualities I wish for in my POTUS.

I would bet dollars to donuts that she and Gov. Perry have already spoken and each understands and respects the others’ position. Make no mistake about it, Gov. Palin and Gov. Perry like and admire each other. They’re rough and tough, and they wear their diapers low. That’s what makes them both leaders.


20 posted on 09/13/2011 8:02:41 AM PDT by papasmurf (0bama-doing the job Americans won't.)
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To: papasmurf

Good Point, I agree

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. I take it from — a little bit from your discussion — I don’t mean to read into it. You can speak for yourself, obviously — but that you — that you are — that you’re pleased with at least with the field tonight or with the way that they answered. Is that correct?

PALIN: Yes, I was pleased. I was very happy with it. Let me go back to that issue with Governor Perry. I was governor of Alaska at the time that that issue came down, and I told our health and human services department Alaska was not going to mandate immunizations for our teenage daughters.

And there had to have been something to that whole issue because it just didn’t sound like Governor Perry. Governor Perry was, you know, the proverbial anti-government type of maverick there in Texas, and yet on this issue, he decided that he was going to know better than a parent was going to know in terms of what the health care or health benefit would be for their teenage daughters. So I knew there was something to it.

And remember when the media went a little bit crazy and demanded to see my 25,000 e-mails that I had written during my term as governor. In those e-mails, there is proof of there that the issue arose while I was governor of Alaska. And the e-mails reflect my — my principle there was, No, government, stay out of the lives of family decisions like that, and do not tell a parent that their daughter must be immunized. ....... And it was a — it was kind of an illustration or a big of evidence of some crony capitalism.


21 posted on 09/13/2011 8:04:47 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: ScottinVA

I agree, she is and has jumped the shark - and I’m someone predisposed to liking her a lot. The vaccine issue stinks - really stinks and should be addressed to a degree - and Perry should come out harder against his own decision and to put it to bed - but it’s a little tiring to hear folks with no executive experience (MB and Ron Paul and Santorum) or little experience as governor (Palin) pick a single scab.

Perry’s parental rights record is really good with this one very ugly blot. It’s all besides the point: our country is not in trouble due to forced vaccinations.


22 posted on 09/13/2011 8:05:16 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: AAABEST
The only reason Perry's mandate did not go in to effect was because the Texas legislature came in and countermanded him, removing the mandate.

Had they not done that, the mandate would have happened, it's a huge black mark against Perry, trying to defend his action it as a positive because it didn't go into effect is laughable.

23 posted on 09/13/2011 8:06:25 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: mrspeelwerneeded
This is purely an opinion but I have been watching carefully.

I can see what Palin REALLY wants through the curtain...She wants a media job....back to her beginnings....her secret ambition. But Palin wants something like what Katie Couric has.

Thus....this "campaign" is just a big news report and precedent for a future BIG media job.

24 posted on 09/13/2011 8:06:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: reasonisfaith

Perry does need to address the crony capitalism issue in light of this indeed. Having said that, Palin herself makes it clear that this decision was an outlier for Perry and totally unlike him normally.

Gardicil stinks, but it is not his pattern, it is an obvious aberration.


25 posted on 09/13/2011 8:07:22 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: AAABEST

- Perry never advocated “forcing” anyone to get a Gardasil vaccination. The executive order - RP65 - had an opt out. The “innocent little 12 year old girls or 11 year old girls in state of Texas” who “would be forced by the government to take an injection” would have only existed in Bachmanns mind.
______________________________________________________________

You must think your fellow freepers are idiots.

MANDATED


26 posted on 09/13/2011 8:07:30 AM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: papasmurf

“I would bet dollars to donuts that she and Gov. Perry have already spoken and each understands and respects the others’ position. Make no mistake about it, Gov. Palin and Gov. Perry like and admire each other.”

This would be the ideal scenario, and I would prefer it over the alternative.

At this point there’s no way of knowing. It does seem plausible that Perry could be vp on a Palin ticket.


27 posted on 09/13/2011 8:07:51 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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To: jerseyrocks

“The party needs to stay united to win the battle.”

So you are for Crony Capitalism as long as its your Crony Capitalist?

Now is the time to muck out the barn. Its the Primary. No more political cashing in on the government from anybody! If the Republicans are just another flavor of cronyism, we will lose!


28 posted on 09/13/2011 8:08:53 AM PDT by helpfulresearcher (Palin and Cain - Courageous leaders who can actually fire people and prosecute corruption!)
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To: achilles2000

Not even Palin does.


29 posted on 09/13/2011 8:09:21 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I want a Triple A president for our Triple A country)
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To: Lakeshark

it is a huge black mark - no argument here - but there needs to be some perspective. Perry has the longest executive resume of all by far. Bachmann and Santorum and Paul the least (as in zero). Palin and the others all have some record of being an executive, but none anywhere near as long as Perry’s. Since humans are not perfect, the longer one is in charge the more mistakes he/she will make by definition. Look for patterns, not outliers.

If we insist on picking apart every aberration instead of looking for a pattern, I feel like we’ll always come up with a reason not to support anyone whose ever done anything.

If a gardicil like decision was the norm for Perry, I’d be the first name on the “this guy must go” bandwagon. But his over all record of parental rights is very good, with this one fugly blot.


30 posted on 09/13/2011 8:11:34 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Sacajaweau

B-I-N-G-O.


31 posted on 09/13/2011 8:12:15 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: mrspeelwerneeded
Nice she could find time to comment on this,

Excuse me? She's been 'speaking out' since 2008. What candidate has been? NONE!
32 posted on 09/13/2011 8:12:35 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: AAABEST

The first few words of this piece read:
Palin even went as far as to lend her voice...

To me, part of listening to anyone’s “voice” is an understanding of where they are coming from. With Palin I am unclear at this point if she purports to speak as a journalist, a candidate, a voice of the people, just a regular ‘gal’ gossiping over tea, or...? If someone comments on a candidate and they are also a candidate it shades the comments in a certain way. Good listeners take motives into account when listening to a “voice” or viewpoint. With Palin I am unsure how to listen with the proper nuance in mind.


33 posted on 09/13/2011 8:12:50 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (I didn't say it was your fault. I said I am going to BLAME you.)
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To: mrspeelwerneeded

“As someone who wished she would enter, I have to say she’s doing great damage to herself now. “

She certainly talked herself out of a Perry/Palin ticket. lol

Yes, at this point she needs to decide, is she a candidate or pundit.

Oh, and she needs to be careful, people might actually look and find the Alaska gardasil policy she put in place.

http://hss.state.ak.us/press/2007/pr053107fed-funding-hpv-vax.htm


34 posted on 09/13/2011 8:12:59 AM PDT by WOSG
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To: AAABEST
The executive order - RP65 - had an opt out.

When one person points out that something is "wrong", nothing bothers me more than to hear a response that you can "opt out". Don't first usher me in only to later tell me that if I don't like my liberty being taken by government I have the ability to "opt out". Don't "opt" me in in the first place.
35 posted on 09/13/2011 8:13:10 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Sea Parrot

I qualified the comment. Please pay attention.


36 posted on 09/13/2011 8:13:52 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Anima Mundi
With Palin I am unsure how to listen with the proper nuance in mind.

No doubt you are.

37 posted on 09/13/2011 8:13:58 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: WOSG
She certainly talked herself out of a Perry/Palin ticket.

LOL!! That has been your wish!! NOT HER'S NEVER HER'S! Good to see you finally woke up!
38 posted on 09/13/2011 8:15:16 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Gardisil is a hint of an ongoing problem called crony capitalism. It’s not pretty, and it’s something I don’t like about him and his record. It’s his squishy stance on illegals that becomes the deal killer for me. If you haven’t read this speech, please do so, it’s a huge problem and makes me think he is W/redux with a holster on: http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2011/07/obamas_la_raza_speech_plugs_dr.html


39 posted on 09/13/2011 8:16:24 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Sacajaweau

Because SARAH lives in your head 24/7, you think you can now read her mind? LOL!!


40 posted on 09/13/2011 8:17:37 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: reasonisfaith

“Has Governor Perry spoken out against the permanent political class yet?”

Look, if you dont want a guy with 20 years of statewide political experience, go with the outsider - Cain.

But it’s kind of silly to expect Perry to denounce career politicians when he’s been a good one for a long while.

“I don’t think any candidate has a viable alternative to this part of Palin’s platform. “

Oh please. HIS NAME IS HERMAN CAIN.


41 posted on 09/13/2011 8:17:41 AM PDT by WOSG
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To: reasonisfaith

Of course there is—Herman Cain. He’s never been elected to political office.

Palin herself is really part of the “permanent political class” as she has been in politics since 1992.

The politicians got us into this mess. Herman Cain can get us out.


42 posted on 09/13/2011 8:19:13 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: AAABEST

’ Perry never advocated “forcing” anyone to get a Gardasil vaccination. The executive order - RP65 - had an opt out. ‘

You’re right.

Only the children of parents who would blindly follow what a Governor says about this experimental drug would have suffered. The children of parents who questioned the Governor would research the side effects and avoid it like poison.

Even now, so few Perrybots have bothered to investigate this issue one iota, that regardless of the drugs widely publicized side effects, if Perry offered it to their children, a sizeable fraction would roll the dice with their kids future without another thought.

Perry is not a medical doctor and while I’m glad he didn’t intend to use kids as guinea pigs at gunpoint, the “opt-out” doesn’t wash.


43 posted on 09/13/2011 8:19:28 AM PDT by tarotsailor
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To: achilles2000
I don’t know what Palin’s game is.

Her game is being a FOX News Analyst. She seems to be fitting in quite well over there.


44 posted on 09/13/2011 8:19:45 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Sopater

“Don’t “opt” me in in the first place.”

Really? So you are opposed point-blank to every vaccination policy in America?


45 posted on 09/13/2011 8:20:54 AM PDT by WOSG
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To: RegulatorCountry

Yes. No doubt, which is why I stated it.


46 posted on 09/13/2011 8:23:21 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (I didn't say it was your fault. I said I am going to BLAME you.)
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To: Lakeshark

I’ve written widely on crony capitalism on American Thinker and think it’s one of the biggest problems we have today and argued widely the same thing here on FR. My point stands, this was a bit of an outlier for him and not his pattern.

And don’t get me wrong, I’m not a supporter of Perry - I am undecided at this point with a soft spot for Cain - but I do have over sensitive radar for perspective - and for folks like Bachmann, who support ethanol (maybe the ultimate crony capitalist venture this side of Obama care) and who have no executive experience - to call out someone with a ten year record as an executive on crony capitalism is just totally out of perspective.

That’s my only point. Perry will have to answer this better himself if he wants to over come it. But the vaccine issue for me is not a huge one.

The immigration is a whole different issue. I was keeping on the subject of the vaccine, the debate, and Palin’s comments.


47 posted on 09/13/2011 8:25:00 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Just a reminder...

Palin comes from a state with a population of 710,000.

Texas has approx 25,100,000 people.

And never forget..."she quit" and HER reasoning was she could do more if she was a free agent.

No matter the adverse circumstances (money)....she quit!!

How many Governors have quit to become a free agent?

I'm sorry...Palin should have stepped to the plate along time ago. Her little campaign is turning into a farce and it migght just happen that she quietly goes back to Alaska and lives happily ever after as an oil/gas exec..

48 posted on 09/13/2011 8:26:02 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: WOSG
So you are opposed point-blank to every vaccination policy in America?

Yeah, I'm against a formal "requirement" for vaccination. I like to have the choice to vaccinate or not.

So, you're in favor of forcing people to take an injection whether they need or or not for the "greater good"? Do you work for the government or a pharmaceutical company?
49 posted on 09/13/2011 8:26:26 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Lakeshark

It would be nice if people actually read the transcript of what Gov. Palin said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2777590/posts


50 posted on 09/13/2011 8:26:26 AM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: "You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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