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To: cripplecreek
Exactly.

I am extremely disappointed with the easy comfort many here appear to have with govt coercion, when it's their guy doing it.

People will rationalize anything.

37 posted on 09/13/2011 8:30:38 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I’m disappointed with people that accept without pause required vaccinations for hepatitis but think HPV is a totally different case, as long it tears down the competition to their guy/gal.


43 posted on 09/13/2011 8:32:55 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I missed a good many of the vaccines that most kids were getting in the 60s and 70s. The reason I missed them is because I had a spleen issue as a child that the docs really couldn’t decipher. As a result they told my parents that they could opt out of most vaccinations and I was given some kind of waiver for school.

48 years later and I’m still pestilence free.


58 posted on 09/13/2011 8:38:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

So, your stand is that all vaccinations are bad because a state government mandates it? If that is the position of the conservative movement, it is going to be a very small movement.

States have mandated vaccinations for several generations....and rightfully so. The facts here are simple, Perry made a mistake on this issue, it was corrected, he acknowledges it. It is a negative mark, but no a disqualifier. There was no dark, sinister effort here to force parents to allow something they do not want for their kids. The opt out was the simplest of the various vaccination requirements. Perry received a paltry donation from the drug provider, hardly enough to influence policy.

If this is the worst of the charges, Perry is a shoe in. I am more interested in hearing his plans on jobs, taxes, social security and immigration to see if he is the guy I want to vote for next spring. .


72 posted on 09/13/2011 8:43:13 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

“Exactly.

I am extremely disappointed with the easy comfort many here appear to have with govt coercion, when it’s their guy doing it.

People will rationalize anything.”

BRAVO!!!

Gardasil isn’t PEZ

Monday, 26 October 2009
(Note the Date. Perry had Plenty of time to Find Out.)

“The reported rate of serious adverse events is greater than the incidence rate of cervical cancer.”

http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/642/103/

“Dr. Diane Harper, the lead researcher in the development of two human papilloma virus vaccines, Merck’s Gardasil and GlaxoSmithKline’s Cervarix, injected sobering facts about these much promoted vaccines. Indeed, Dr. Harper, who analyzed the data, raised serious doubts about the medical justification for use of the HPV vaccines in Western-industrialized countries where current screening has all but wiped out the death rate from cervical cancer:

Speaking at the 4th International Public Conference on Vaccination (Oct. 2-4) Dr. Harper explained that:
“70 percent of all HPV infections resolve themselves without treatment within a year. Within two years, the number climbs to 90 percent. Of the remaining 10 percent of HPV infections, only half will develop into cervical cancer, which leaves little need for the vaccine.”

She went on to surprise the audience by stating that the incidence of cervical cancer in the U.S. is already so low that “even if we get the vaccine and continue PAP screening, we will not lower the rate of cervical cancer in the US.”

Dr. Harper, who also serves as a consultant to the World Health Organization, further undercut the case for mass vaccination in industrialized countries by saying that “four out of five women with cervical cancer are in developing countries.”

Furthermore, she said, there have been no efficacy trials in children under the age of 15: “It is silly to mandate vaccination of 11 to 12 year old girls. There also is not enough evidence gathered on side effects to know that safety is not an issue.”

To date, 15,037 girls have officially reported adverse side effects from Gardasil to the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). These adverse reactions include Guilliane Barre, lupus, seizures, paralysis, blood clots, brain inflammation and many others. The CDC acknowledges that there have been 44 reported deaths.

In Britain, the government began administering the vaccine to school-aged girls last year, more than 2,000 patients reported some kind of adverse reaction including nausea, dizziness, blurred vision, convulsions, seizures and hyperventilation. Several reported multiple reactions, with 4,602 suspected side-effects recorded in total. The most tragic case involved a 14 year-old girl who dropped dead in the corridor of her school an hour after receiving the vaccination.

Bottom line: “The rate of serious adverse events is greater than the incidence rate of cervical cancer.”

So why are public health agencies in the US and the UK promoting the vaccines for young girls when the risk / benefit ratio is clearly tilted against its use????

This is but another example of aggressive marketing skewing public health policy, overriding good medical practice and the dictum, “First, do no harm.” The case lends further support for increased public distrust.

Posted by Vera Sharav”

& a further clarification
http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/643/9/

“”The REPORTED rate of serious adverse events is greater than the incidence rate of cervical cancer.”


237 posted on 09/13/2011 9:51:00 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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