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SHTFPlan.com ^ | 13 September 2011 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 09/13/2011 9:41:57 AM PDT by Errant

On the ground report from Greece by Manos September 11, 2011

After our socio-fascist government implemented all of Germany’s directives, the Greek people have come to an absolute desperation and poverty.

What is also outrageous is the fact that are own government has passed the message to the global banksters and other nations that Greek people are lazy and incapable.

Today, after two years of screwing and pressing us, most households and businesses have stopped paying. Stopped paying taxes, utility bills, toll fees, or anything else related to the government.

Two hours ago, this same government announced a new property tax (added to the 2 previous ones). This one will be calculated on every and each household, business, cottage, or even a barn for animals. It will be 4 euros per square meter calculated immediately, to be paid by this December the latest.

Once again let me tell you that we are not a lazy nation or useless people.

This has to do with some 4% of the working force, and all of them public servants who were hired by each government in order to gain votes for its next election campaign. So what’s actually happening is the same person who hired those people, now tries to persuade the rest of the nation that they are incapable.

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1 posted on 09/13/2011 9:42:08 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

“Today, after two years of screwing and pressing us, most households and businesses have stopped paying. Stopped paying taxes, utility bills, toll fees, or anything else related to the government.”

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It should happen here.

Now.


2 posted on 09/13/2011 9:44:40 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Errant

Holy cow!

This will not end well.


3 posted on 09/13/2011 9:45:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Errant

bump.


4 posted on 09/13/2011 9:47:01 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Errant

Thank God I live in the United States, a land truly of Milk and Honey even in the absence of a economic monetary system.


5 posted on 09/13/2011 9:47:12 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Errant
This has to do with some 4% of the working force, and all of them public servants who were hired by each government in order to gain votes for its next election campaign.

This sounds vaguely familiar.............

6 posted on 09/13/2011 9:50:47 AM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Errant
The centralized planning that was supposed to prevent this is what actually caused it.

Read Hayek.

Harvard Business School (and it's like) is the cancer in the US Economy.

7 posted on 09/13/2011 9:50:52 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Errant

“Two hours ago, this same government announced a new property tax (added to the 2 previous ones). This one will be calculated on every and each household, business, cottage, or even a barn for animals. It will be 4 euros per square meter calculated immediately, to be paid by this December the latest. “

Hmmmmm......sounds like California to me.


8 posted on 09/13/2011 9:52:37 AM PDT by RC2
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To: dila813; All
To top it off, we have the absurdity of Tiny Tim Giethner in Germany telling them screw their taxpayers again:

Tim Geithner Tells Germany It Has To Sacrifice More Taxpayer Money To Protect The Status Quo

It seems to me that things are getting starting to get out of control.

9 posted on 09/13/2011 9:55:09 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant
It will be 4 euros per square meter calculated immediately, to be paid by this December the latest.

I'd imagine if you dont pay this, the law will come after you and throw you in prison and take your land anyway, right? Same thing happens here. If you don't pay taxes, you go to jail.

10 posted on 09/13/2011 9:56:43 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Red Badger
This sounds vaguely familiar...

Except our public servant to private business ratio is about 10 times higher than Greece's 4%, if that is an accurate figure.

11 posted on 09/13/2011 9:58:40 AM PDT by Errant
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To: RC2

In Texas, my property tax has gone up 10% (more with their fuzzy math and rounding up) every year but one. We may have to move.


12 posted on 09/13/2011 9:59:36 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: EyeGuy

Especially in California. The state legislature needs to learn a good lesson.


13 posted on 09/13/2011 10:00:36 AM PDT by RC2
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To: bgill

With property values going down so much, many people are approaching their tax people to have the value of their property reconsidered and having their taxes reduced. You maybe could try that.


14 posted on 09/13/2011 10:04:04 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Pietro
It's the Keynesian bile for sure.

Mussolini recognized, “Fascism entirely agrees with Mr. Maynard Keynes, despite the latter’s prominent position as a Liberal. In fact, Mr. Keynes’ excellent little book, The End of Laissez-Faire might, so far as it goes, serve as a useful introduction to fascist economics.”

Keynes saw the similarities too, admitting his theories, “can be much easier adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state than . . . a large degree of laissez-faire.”

15 posted on 09/13/2011 10:05:07 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Errant
From another thread:

Günther Oettinger, Germany’s representative on the European Commission, said last week that Europe should send United Nations soldiers to Greece to liquidate its assets and force tax collection...

Run that one through your head for a moment. UN military tax collectors, operating within a sovereign country. The last international organization that tried that in Greece was the Ottoman Empire. UN military tax collectors. If you used that in a novel people would accuse you of paranoid conspiracy theory.

16 posted on 09/13/2011 10:06:49 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Soothesayer9
Apparently not in Greece if what I've read and heard is true.

I ran into this a while back, worth a read:

TAX ADMINISTRATION EPIC FAIL
17 posted on 09/13/2011 10:07:10 AM PDT by Proud_texan (Scare people enough and they'll do anything.)
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To: RC2

Did that. They went down until the next installment was due, then they were back up again. Despite the drop in property values, the politicians fool with the numbers to make sure they get what they want from the taxpayer.


18 posted on 09/13/2011 10:07:58 AM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: Errant
This has to do with some 4% of the working force, and all of them public servants who were hired by each government in order to gain votes for its next election campaign.

But surely the other 96% of the work force could have voted against such measures these past 20 years or so!

The economic mechanics of this crash are well understood and well publicized. What's not being admitted are the moral underpinnings of these policies; policies based on the morality of mooching and looting. Is it not true that the other 96% of the work force in Greece were hoping that they, too, would be able to redistribute someone else's productively earned wealth to themselves so that they, too, could get "free" benefits at someone else's expense?

Yes, I think so.

Economics is a very important subject to study nowadays, but what many people don't understand -- including many economists, by the way -- is that underneath economic systems lie moral systems.

19 posted on 09/13/2011 10:08:05 AM PDT by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: Soothesayer9
I'd imagine if you dont pay this, the law will come after you and throw you in prison and take your land anyway, right? Same thing happens here. If you don't pay taxes, you go to jail.

If enough people do this they literally can't jail them all.

What's next? Bullets and lime pits?

20 posted on 09/13/2011 10:09:26 AM PDT by null and void (Day 966 of America's holiday from reality...)
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