Skip to comments.The right and wrong way to talk about Gardasil
Posted on 09/13/2011 10:11:03 AM PDT by Lakeshark
A month ago, I was fringe for spotlighting Rick Perrys Gardasil problem.
As I said then, its not just a single-issue, one-off problem. Its about his instincts, judgment, non-apology apology, and ethics.
For everyone still catching up, heres my column from a month ago.
Now, Gardasil is the search word of the day. And theres a new development.
After successfully highlighting Perrys troubling abuse of executive power during last nights debate, Michele Bachmann risks blowing it with some factually inaccurate assertions.
Shes RIGHT on the principles, wrong on some of the details.
She needs to stay on message and stick with the facts.
(Excerpt) Read more at michellemalkin.com ...
i cant believe they are getting off on this irrelevancy. reminds me of the flouride BS in the 50’s and 60’s.
makes us look like crazies.
govt is out of control, lets focus on that and forget about gardasil for now
“govt is out of control, lets focus on that and forget about gardasil for now”
Sorry, but that IS THE POINT!!! Perry MANDATED IT: Government out of control!
However, the real disaster of Rick Perry is his shameless, short-sighted pandering to La Raza and CAIR. This man hasn't a clue about the reality of life: Demography is destiny. California is now a reliably Leftist state, thanks entirely to the "Hispanic" Invasion. Elect Perry, and we may have a few years of slowdown in govt. growth, but we will lose the war irreversibly.
Full disclosure: I like Palin, Cain and Bachmann. I'm neutral on Perry (but not growing fonder). I will not vote for Romney, Huntsman, or Paul. I like Santorum, but he's sort of not worth talking about.
No she hasn’t, but she clearly does not like Perry. She also has often chided Romney, so I doubt she is for him.
If so, the word "mandate" has a new definition.
wrong hill to die on.
repeat: makes us look like crazies. we can defeat obama but we cant go psycho on these kind of issues. just my opinion.
Well, first of all, your statement is BULL SHITE!
In 2003, four years before Gardasil was approved by the FDA, Rick Perry supported and signed into law a bill allowed Texas parents for the first time in state history, to OPT OUT of ANY ...GET THAT ANY....immunizations they deemed dangerous to their children. That law is STILL IN EFFECT!
When the feds said make Gardasil available to Texas parents who want the vaccination available through SCHIP and Medicaid, the drug HAS TO BE on the state’s mandated list of immunizations. Perry simply wrote out an ExO that put it on the mandated list and then in the second sentence put the decision right back in the hands of the with an OPT OUT if they don’t want it or an OPT IN if they did.
The MANY PARENTS WANTED IT! THE MANY PARENTS DIDN’T...PROBLEM SOLVED!
STOP THE DAMNED LIES PEOPLE!
That's a mandate, you can explain it away all you want.........
I understand the need to go on the attack, especially when she's becoming a non-factor in this primary. But she does herself no good when she starts to lie about the EO, and insinuating Perry is responsible for mental retardation. She starts putting herself into the Ron Paul section with accusations like that.
>government is out of control. let’s focus on on that and foreget about gardasil for now.<
We won’t get far if we discard our principles.
So, you believe that any government intrusion is OK as long as there is an “opt out” provision of some sort?
Government can enter your home at will, unless you fill out a government form, perfectly correct, and mail it in every two years, BUT private companies do not have to obey such opt out provisions??
Government can search your person at will, unless you fill out a government form, perfectly correct, and mail it in every two years, BUT private companies do not have to obey such opt out provisions??
Government can declare you guilty without trial, unless you fill out a government form, perfectly correct, and mail it in every two years, BUT private companies do not have to obey such opt out provisions??
You are supporting government tyranny under the guise that there was this “opt out” provision.
“The Texas state legislature repealed the order (over Perrys hysterical objections) before any girl was forcibly vaccinated.
And while individual stories of Gardasil harm may or may not be true (Bachmann cited a mother who thinks the vaccine caused mental retardation in her child while making the post-debate rounds), its not the primary case she should be making.”
Bachman is okay but she SHOULD frame the issue as coerced government intrusion and the LACK of consent needed by PARENTS.
Gardasil is an example of how government is out of control!
Bachman is a straight forward conservative, so she will NOT like either Perry or Romney.
I'd say that's the subject matter that will win the White House.
But, having said that, I will add that it is our socially liberal impulses that have caused government to balloon to enormous size. We want to save the snail darter, we want to take care of the elderly and sick and poor, we want to build nations in Iraq, Afghnaistan and everywhere else.
One way to approach Economic Conservatism is to also push Social Conservatism. They are linked.
I agree that Gardasil seems like a distraction -- but a candidate who thinks safety is the most important thing and that ramming through medical "mandates" with an executive order is a good idea, is someone who is likely to sign us up for a variety of expensive "feel good" government programs.
I wouldn't make Gardasil quite such a big thing, but Gardasil did tell me some unpleasant things about Perry.
These are good points, and while many will view the issue as a distraction from more important issues, like the survival of America, it does speak to Perry’s principles, or, possibly, lack thereof. Apologies only mean something when followed by a change of behavior and actions. Has Perry seen the error of his ways, or is his apology followed by a but. Is Perry playing conservative for political expediency, or has he been enlightened by conservative thinking and principles? I don’t know, but pretending conservatism isn’t as simple as pretending liberalism. All the latter requires is lack of good character and stupidity.
I would not bet that she knows it (well, she probably does now). She makes her share of gaffes and was probably just talking about something she knew little about.
Bush ahd the right idea on NCLB BUT the teachers PERVERTED his agenda. Now, they sideline and ignore the bright motivated kids and it gave them another excuse to LOWER STANDARDS and CONTENT. That is where NCLB is perverted.