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In Suburb, Battle Goes Public on Bullying of Gay Students
New York Times ^ | September 13, 2011 | Erik Eckholm

Posted on 09/13/2011 11:05:29 AM PDT by lbryce

This sprawling suburban school system, much of it within Michele Bachmann’s Congressional district, is caught in the eye of one of the country’s hottest culture wars — how homosexuality should be discussed in the schools.

After years of harsh conflict between advocates for gay students and Christian conservatives, the issue was already highly charged here. Then in July, six students brought a lawsuit contending that school officials have failed to stop relentless antigay bullying and that a district policy requiring teachers to remain “neutral” on issues of sexual orientation has fostered oppressive silence and a corrosive stigma.

Also this summer, parents and students here learned that the federal Department of Justice was deep into a civil rights investigation into complaints about unchecked harassment of gay students in the district. The inquiry is still under way.

Through it all, conservative Christian groups have demanded that the schools avoid any descriptions of homosexuality or same-sex marriage as normal, warning against any surrender to what they say is the “homosexual agenda” of recruiting youngsters to an “unhealthy and abnormal lifestyle.”

Adding an extra incendiary element, the school district has suffered eight student suicides in the last two years, leading state officials to declare a “suicide contagion.” Whether antigay bullying contributed to any of these deaths is sharply disputed; some friends and teachers say four of the students were struggling with issues of sexual identity.

In many larger cities, lessons in tolerance of sexual diversity are now routine parts of health education and antibully training. But in the suburbs the battle rages on, perhaps nowhere more bitterly than here in the Anoka-Hennepin School District, just north of Minneapolis. With 38,000 students, it is Minnesota’s largest school system, and most of it lies within the Congressional district of Ms. Bachmann, a Republican contender for president.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: depravity; gay; gayrights; homonazi; homonaziagenda; homonazis; homonazism; homopsycho; homopsychoagenda; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexualism; pedophile; pedophiles; pedophilia; sexualanarchy
...and the depravity goes on.
1 posted on 09/13/2011 11:05:38 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

You can expect pedophilia to follow (along with only God knows what else)


2 posted on 09/13/2011 11:08:44 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: lbryce

What’s “bullying”?

If the gay kids are getting called names well, life’s hard...too bad.
If the gay kids are getting beat up then that’s assault and it’s a crime that already has laws and of course those laws should be enforced.


3 posted on 09/13/2011 11:09:38 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: lbryce

OTOH “gays”don’t want to be “judged” by their SEX LIFE.

And then OTOH, they WANT you to RESPECT their “lifestyle choice” and KNOW about their SEX LIFE.

“Gays” want it both ways depending on what is more advantageous to them at the MOMENT.

Have “gays” go to a “gay” school.

There they can molest eachother.


4 posted on 09/13/2011 11:11:10 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Artemis Webb

No one NORMAL would DEFEND what is clearly ABNORMAL.

To be “gay” is a “lifestyle CHOICE” that is NOT NORMAL.


5 posted on 09/13/2011 11:12:21 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: lbryce

The ONLY reason they are making this an “issue” is bacause Backman is running. Otherwise you wouldn’t be hearing about it if there is an issue. They know that Bachman who is a conservative Christian could not possibly EMBRACE perversion.


6 posted on 09/13/2011 11:13:50 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: lbryce

How did I ever get through school without being taught how wonderful homosexuality was and how homosexuals made America great? The schools are simply promoting homosexuality as a normal and rewarding lifestyle choice. I am just waiting for some serious judgment to come to America, though I believe Obama is part of that judgment that has already come.

Life was so much better when homosexuals were in closets!


7 posted on 09/13/2011 11:15:48 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Artemis Webb
What's "bullying"?

From what I can determine, showing any sign of disapproval of their perversion is "bullying", including the wearing of "straight pride" t-shirts.


8 posted on 09/13/2011 11:20:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: nmh
We have a winner!

This article isn't about gay students being bullied, it's about destroying Michele Bachmann.

The Poofter Press HATES her and can't allow her to become a candidate for President - ohhh, puh-leeeze.

9 posted on 09/13/2011 11:34:38 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (***9/11*** Never Forget - Never Forgive ***9/11***)
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To: lbryce
With 38,000 students, it is Minnesota’s largest school system, and most of it lies within the Congressional district of Ms. Bachmann, a Republican contender for president.

Isn't that special that they could find something negative, at least in their minds, to tie to Michele.

10 posted on 09/13/2011 11:35:42 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Artemis Webb

I’m with you. The only words that are “bullying” are threats.


11 posted on 09/13/2011 11:37:29 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: lbryce

The real problem is that it’s being discussed at all.

Years ago, schools were expected to teach reading, writing, and arithmatic, sciences and history. Schools also taught what were called “civics” and often foreign language. All other things were handled within the family, the church, the community, and with private research on the part of the individual.

Why should sex and morals be taught in school at all? We have made a monster of schools in a way they were never intended to function.


12 posted on 09/13/2011 11:41:27 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: lbryce

When the NYT gets its quotation marks out, you know they’re deadly serious!

Never mind that the agenda is quite real despite their attempts to pretend otherwise.


13 posted on 09/13/2011 11:47:36 AM PDT by relictele (Pax Quaeritur Bello)
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To: lbryce
School teachers and principals have to have the authority, and the mandate, to suspend or otherwise penalize students who violate good order and decorum on school grounds. That includes uncouth or inflammatory language, PDA's, clothing that creates issues, verbal aggressiveness, and racial or sexual labeling.

Higher standards are necessary for everyone in order to maintain a learning environment, and there's no need for teachers to address varieties of sexual behavior at all, except to say that no "sexual behavior" at all is tolerated on school grounds.

Wouldn't that about cover it?

14 posted on 09/13/2011 11:50:37 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Let's step outside! . ... . Foras gradiamur)
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To: lbryce
The whole "gay bullying" issue is nothing more than another effort by the sex-positive freaks to talk dirty to other people's kids. They use the subject as an entry point to discussing deviant sex acts and attempting to normalize them in the minds of these kids.

That's ALL this is about.
15 posted on 09/13/2011 11:50:49 AM PDT by Antoninus (Nothing that offends God can possibly be a legitimate right.)
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To: nmh
OTOH “gays”don’t want to be “judged” by their SEX LIFE.
And then OTOH, they WANT you to RESPECT their “lifestyle choice” and KNOW about their SEX LIFE.
“Gays” want it both ways depending on what is more advantageous to them at the MOMENT.


Exactly! One of my friends asked me what I would say if she told me she was a lesbian. I would tell her that she needs to find the truth in the Lord and realize that you do not get to heaven by embracing your sins!

She said, that was mean and hurtful. I told her that if she didn't want to know what I think about her "theoretical" lifestyle, then don't put your lifestyle choices in my face!

I told her, who she does in her bedroom or what she does in PRIVATE sex life is HER business. But, if you feel that you need to tell me the details, then expect me to give you my non-politically correct response! I told her, I am not asking you to get back in the closet; but, I do ask that you keep it in your bedroom!
16 posted on 09/13/2011 12:00:22 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: lbryce
As with everything else Progressive, this is not about "bullying". It is about pressing a political agenda in the guise of compassion.

The best answer to any bully is to slug him in the mouth. Then, you are no longer a victim. But the Left wishes to create "victims" rather than empower them - or to objectively judge their own behavior .

Today we have a Cult of Victimhood, whose accredited members (women, minorities, gays) are accorded superior "rights" and accusation privileges, the purpose of which is not to defend their personal liberty but to justify the taking of rights from others in the pursuit of political power.

17 posted on 09/13/2011 12:01:09 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: lbryce

If the gays would only keep it to themselves, nobody would bother them. The “love that dare not speak its name” now won’t shut the heck up!


18 posted on 09/13/2011 12:14:41 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Artemis Webb
Your right, a broad defination of bully can result in anything being called "bully". A teacher does not have tobe neutral, they can step in and tell ALL involved to stop if they are on school grounds...

In the 8th grade one of my girlfriends and I got into a tussle in the hall, we were both sent to the Vice principal's office, got chewed out and sent home....but sent out of the school 1/2 hour after the other girl was...I waited for her and when she showed up, we had a cigarette together and went home...it was nothing but a flare up that meant nothing.

19 posted on 09/13/2011 12:15:45 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: lbryce
in July, six students brought a lawsuit contending that school officials have failed to stop relentless antigay bullying and that a district policy requiring teachers to remain “neutral” on issues of sexual orientation has fostered oppressive silence and a corrosive stigma.

In other words, it really doesn't have anything to do with bullying. It has to do with wanting teachers to be cheerleaders for a particular brand of perversion.

20 posted on 09/13/2011 12:15:54 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Wouldn't that about cover it?

In a "normal" society, yes, that would cover it! However, those who like to "push buttons" would sue (and with all the liberal judges, they would more than likely win) causing schools to stop standing up to the idiots and button-pushers!

Schools should be a place to go to learn reading, writing, arithmetic, civics and science! The only other things offered should be either college-prep courses or specific accredited vocational courses! That way when a student graduates they are either prepared to go to college or prepared to offer worthy skills to their local community.

And note, I said "OFFERED!" That means, if I don't think my child needs any of those courses, then they do not have to take them!
21 posted on 09/13/2011 12:18:49 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: lbryce

“...a district policy requiring teachers to remain “neutral” on issues of sexual orientation has fostered oppressive silence and a corrosive stigma.”

Not teaching propaganda is “oppressive”? This is the statement of a dictatorship, in particular that of National Socialists and Communists.


22 posted on 09/13/2011 12:28:20 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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I've got an idea. How about no mention of homosexuality at all in schools, either officially or by students? No "gay" anything, no Day of Silence, no "gay" clubs, nothing. Problem solved.

23 posted on 09/14/2011 8:56:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Antoninus
The whole "gay bullying" issue is nothing more than another effort by the sex-positive freaks to talk dirty to other people's kids. They use the subject as an entry point to discussing deviant sex acts and attempting to normalize them in the minds of these kids.

Exactly. It's a way to shut normal people up, and give perverts a megaphone. And destroy children.

24 posted on 09/14/2011 8:58:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Artemis Webb
What’s “bullying”?

The Obammunists new anti-"bullying" website has your answers. Here are the new, Orwellian, universally-applicable definitions that will bring screeches of lawsuits from any liberal:

Bullying can take many forms. Examples include:

Notice that physical bullying, what we've always known as REAL bullying, is at the end of the list.

So if you "dis" a fag, you're a hateful bully now.

25 posted on 09/15/2011 5:32:53 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: little jeremiah
little kids saying they like the same sex need to be put aside and told that they have no clue what they're talking about. As for bullying then I know it's different today, back just 15 years ago at school the way to stop a bully was to hit back now we have a bunch of fairies as teachers who must have been bullied because of their weird different lifesyles who seem to think reading books etc about bullies is to stop them Always has been the strong, the weak, the rich and the poor that is how it is and the sooner some of these whacked out kids and some public school teachers understand this the better for the west. My oldest has two kids who think they're vampires, another girl cuts herself , he told me she was a emo and another boy who says he drinks blood, all kids aged around 13 Then last year one girl told the school bus she was a bi. All the kids said she was weird, and it is wrong. Guess what the next day she said she was only joking and she isn't. See when people and kids speak up for normal ways the whacked up kids shut up and then come back into society
26 posted on 09/15/2011 6:27:50 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he is socially liberal, another phony conservative,1man +1 woman=marriage)
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To: nmh

exactly

any kid and there was one at my kids middle school saying they like both or the same sex need to shut the hell up.
It just so happens that when this girl said this the other kids told her she is being weird, stop looking for attention, we’re built in such a way because that is how it is etc
Next day this girl tells all the kids she was only joking and that she was looking for attention.

BTW This girl is all messed up with a mother who never looks after her.

There is no excuse for any kid saying this as if you bring kids up the right way and tell them the dangers of the left from an early age then they will become productive people.


27 posted on 09/15/2011 6:31:25 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he is socially liberal, another phony conservative,1man +1 woman=marriage)
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To: I still care

said the same thing to the principle.

It is my job as a parent to raise my children and be there for them at all times as well as bringing them up socially and to help teachers with education.
It is the teachers job to educate on the more important educational matters.

Do we really think that kids out in India or China are being taught this new social lifestyle , of course not.
Then the teachers union wonders why the American education is coming nearly last.

I see now the white house has sent their puppets out to all public schools and to have parents sign what their kids are eating, what exercise they are doing.


28 posted on 09/15/2011 6:35:13 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he is socially liberal, another phony conservative,1man +1 woman=marriage)
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To: Artemis Webb

Let’s see...

I got picked on because I wore glasses, I didn’t socially “fit in” as a middle-schooler, had braces, and so on, getting picked on is part of life, which either makes or breaks you. Hopefully, home life is decent enough to give a little respite when the day is over.


29 posted on 09/15/2011 6:47:28 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: manc

There are many really screwed up kids now, compared to when I was in high school. Broken families, single mothers with various boyfriends hanging around, sickening media/entertainment influences, and to top it all off, leftist indoctrination in schools. Many teachers’ colleges are staffed with ultra leftists. The older teachers are likely to be much saner!

Your children are learning how to be strong in the face of craziness.


30 posted on 09/15/2011 9:20:19 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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