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“Opting-Out” of HPV Vaccine WILL NOT WORK for Many in Texas (So there will be no doubt)
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Posted on 09/13/2011 1:04:49 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper

“Opting-Out” of HPV Vaccine WILL NOT WORK for Many in Texas Governor Perry is misleading legislators and families in Texas by claiming that they will be able to “opt-out” of having their 6th grade daughter vaccinated with the vaccine for the sexually transmitted virus HPV. For many families currently, the exemption isn’t worth the piece of paper it is printed on. Besides the simple fact that parents should not have to get permission from the state to make informed consent medical decisions for their own children, here are four reasons why “opting-out” of sate mandated vaccines doesn’t work for many families in Texas:

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Clearing up the opt out...
1 posted on 09/13/2011 1:04:56 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper
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To: winoneforthegipper

Opting-Out” of HPV Vaccine WILL NOT WORK for Many in Texas
Governor Perry is misleading legislators and families in Texas by claiming that they will be able to “opt-out” of having their 6th grade daughter vaccinated with the vaccine for the sexually transmitted virus HPV. For many families currently, the exemption isn’t worth the piece of paper it is printed on. Besides the simple fact that parents should not have to get permission from the state to make informed consent medical decisions for their own children, here are four reasons why “opting-out” of sate mandated vaccines doesn’t work for many families in Texas:

“Opt-out” or Conscientious Exemption to Vaccination Process is a Bureaucratic Nightmare
To get the exemption form, parents must first submit a written form to State Health Department in Austin which forces the disclosure of the child’s full name, birthdate, and mailing address. The Health Department takes those written requests and creates yet another form on which they print the child’s same personal information that the parent had to send to health department, and the Health Department sometimes takes weeks to mail out these forms inevitably disrupting the child’s school attendance. The Health Department only sends the forms by U.S. mail, and once the parent receives the forms, they must be notarized within 90 days of submitting them and then repeatedly resubmitted every 2 years even though there is no expiration set in statute. [1] Because the Health Department further eroded parental rights by publishing more rules getting rid of provisional enrolment for exemptions, (families used to have 30 days at the beginning of school to get their paperwork in), now schools participate in aggressive misleading education campaigns touting “no shots – no school” while not informing families of the exemption or the instructions how to obtain it.

Private Schools Deny Admission
The Texas attorney general issued an opinion in April of 2006, ga0420, that states that private schools do not have to accept the conscience exemption to vaccination in Texas Law[2], and many private schools do not. For example, the Dallas Diocese for Catholic Schools policy number 5024 states, “Schools will comply with immunization requirements established by the Texas Catholic Conference Education Department. Conscientious objections/waivers are not accepted in schools of the Diocese.” [3] Every new vaccine mandate causes more children with valid legal exemptions to be denied their private school education.

Doctors Refuse Medical Care
Even though you may be able to get a piece of paper from the state health department affirming your right to refuse state mandated vaccines for your child, just try and find a doctor who will honor it! According to a recent study published in the Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine, 39% of pediatricians surveyed said they would throw kids out of practices who are not vaccinated. [4] PROVE has documented this rampant problem of doctors dismissing families utilizing a vaccine exemption in Texas to the legislature in previous sessions. Please review our report entitled “The Erosion of Public Trust & Informed Consent through Immunization Harassment, Discrimination and Coercion” prepared for the House Public Health Committee in 2005. [5]

Insurance Rates Rise and Accessibility Affected
Responsible parents who have secured health care coverage for their children will be forced to pay higher insurance rates whether they want the HPV vaccine or not. Even if you “opt-out” of the HPV vaccine mandate for Gardasil by Merck by securing a conscientious exemption waiver, there is no way for Texas parents to “opt-out” of the corresponding rise in their insurance premiums. § 1367.053. (a) (2) of the Insurance Code REQUIRES that any vaccine required be law must be covered by insurance. [6] This first-dollar coverage requirement results in corresponding direct hiking of insurance premiums to meet costs, and for a vaccine as expensive as this one, an HPV vaccine mandate risks putting premiums for basic health care coverage out of reach financially for even more Texas families. Additionally, we have received complaints from families where insurance companies are harassing parents with letters and discriminating on coverage based on whether or not the child has had all their state mandated vaccines.
[1] http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/immunize/school/school_exclusion.shtm
[2] http://www.oag.state.tx.us/opinions/GA/GA0420.pdf
[3] Policy Handbook for Schools, July 6, 2006, Policy 5024.
[4] WebMD, “Refuse Vaccine, Get ‘Fired’ by Pediatrician?” by Daniel Denoon, October 3, 2005.
[5] http://www.vaccineinfo.net/harassment/report.pdf
[6] http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/IN/content/htm/in.008.00.001367.00.htm#1367.053.00


2 posted on 09/13/2011 1:05:26 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

“The Texas attorney general issued an opinion in April of 2006, ga0420, that states that private schools do not have to accept the conscience exemption to vaccination in Texas Law[2], and many private schools do not. “

That’s their choice, not the govt. And it is a parent’s choice to send his kids to a private school.


3 posted on 09/13/2011 1:10:19 PM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Notice that this story is from 2009. The program was stopped before it began by the legislature. Which means that the political genius Perry was not able to convince the legislature that his program was the way to go.


4 posted on 09/13/2011 1:11:17 PM PDT by DManA
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To: winoneforthegipper
"When both the House and Senate repealed the law six weeks later, Perry did not — as he now claims — listen humbly or “agree with their decision.”

Human shield demagoguery. In response to the legislature’s rebuke, the infuriated governor attacked those who supported repeal as “shameful” spreaders of “misinformation” who were putting “women’s lives” at risk. Borrowing a tried-and-true Alinskyite page from the progressive left, Perry surrounded himself with female cervical cancer victims and deflected criticism of his imperial tactics with emotional anecdotes.

He then lionized himself and the minority of politicians who voted against repeal of his Gardasil order. “They will never have to think twice about whether they did the right thing. No lost lives will occupy the confines of their conscience, sacrificed on the altar of political expediency.” Perry, of course, has now put his own ghastly Gardasil order on that same altar — but with no apology to all those he demonized and exploited along the way."

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Rick gets funny when you start messin with his money.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2777761/posts?page=20

5 posted on 09/13/2011 1:13:14 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: winoneforthegipper
"Insurance Rates Rise and Accessibility Affected"

Do you even understand how insurance companies work? If there is a known treatment that will prevent or even greatly decrease the likelihood of a person contracting a disease which costs thousands of dollars to treat and they do not avail themselves of that treatment, then it would be irresponsible for any insurance company not to treat those people differently from how they treat those who avail themselves of it. It's called good business practice. Insurance is a matter of shared risk vs. cost.

Private schools . . . the operational word there is PRIVATE.

Private physicians . . . again, the operational word there is PRIVATE. I'm sure if someone opts out, they will be able to find a physician to care for their kid.
6 posted on 09/13/2011 1:19:53 PM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: Sudetenland
Dude and without the mandate insurance companies would do what?

Don't post to me like somehow you have an angle better than mine....I hope you “UNDERSTAND”.....!

Honestly you Perry people are more than annoying...you had to know that Perry was not vetted and your damn ass lucky he's gettin it now, cause u know Obama would have tore his butt up on this subject.

So shut your hole and listen for awhile...it will serve your candidate well.

7 posted on 09/13/2011 1:24:30 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

“Dude,” grow up. Nobody cares about Gardasil but clowns who obsess about inconsequential things because they suit there own political agenda. Stop hyperventilating over Gardasil, it isn’t going to help whoever it is you are hoping to advance at Perry’s expense. There are only two candidates in the race for the Republican nomination, Romney and Perry. No one else is qualified for the job—except for Huntsman and he isn’t going anywhere.


8 posted on 09/13/2011 1:32:18 PM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: Sudetenland

You think this is about Gardesil?

Do me a favour....don’t bother posting back to me...your level of comprehension has been exposed.


9 posted on 09/13/2011 1:40:10 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper; Mr Rogers; 2ndDivisionVet; humblegunner; Cincinatus' Wife; Diogenesis; ...

best summary i’ve seen yet on this.

I wish Perry supporters would cheer his good points, while not be dishonest hypocrites about his warts.

...i’m tired of seeing the causally dismissing “besides, there was an opt-out...”.

Perry is just another big government establishment authoritarian, when he forces Parents to do this. (and, he agrees with the NY Times, and the U.N. !)

and, the developer of Gardasil herself, came out against it!
““At a cost of $360 dollars for the full 3-shot course of vaccine, that comes to about $900,000,000 to prevent one death.”
“Gardasil is intended to protect againist FOUR types of HPV. But there are over 120 different strains of HPV.”

http://truthaboutgardasil.org/about-2/
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Mandating this, for young girls, forcing parents to jump through hoops and sign notarized documents every 2 years, pay higher insurance costs, etc. is simply wrong !

(and, Perry was AGAINST the opt-out, also!
guess his support for individual rights stops with guns...)

especially when probably many of these Parents, were evangelical Christians, (who’s daughters are NOT sexually active and don’t need this), and who voted for Perry !!!


10 posted on 09/13/2011 1:42:50 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sudetenland
Let's see how your debate tactic plays out other hypothetical ways. I can HELP you! Go buy a copy of How to Win Friends & Influence People . Get to know the wisdom of Dale Carnegie.
11 posted on 09/13/2011 1:50:03 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Elendur

“especially when probably many of these Parents, were evangelical Christians, (who’s daughters are NOT sexually active and don’t need this), and who voted for Perry !!!”

Right, so where did Bristol’s baby come from? A stork?


12 posted on 09/13/2011 1:51:02 PM PDT by ari-freedom (It's time for Obama to get a downgrade.)
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To: Elendur

I totally agree!


13 posted on 09/13/2011 1:51:37 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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and for all the Perryites, who say he wouldn’t sell out for a measly $5000, your correct:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2777798/posts

Perry understates Merck’s campaign donations around HPV vaccine order
The Washington Independant ^ | 09.13.11 | Mary Tuma

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2777798/posts?page=11#11

“(N)early $30,000 from the drugmaker
since 2000” given to Perry
and “more than $355,000...
to the Republican Governors Association since 2006
which was the year that Perry began to play a prominent role.”


14 posted on 09/13/2011 1:53:57 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ari-freedom
That’s their choice, not the govt. And it is a parent’s choice to send his kids to a private school.

I send my children to private school.

Are you saying I should have to choose between opting out of the vaccine and opting out of govt school for my children?

I shouldn't have the choice to do both?

15 posted on 09/13/2011 1:58:09 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: winoneforthegipper
This "group" promotes vaccines as the cause of Autism.

Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, Inc. Medical Journal: Autism Rates Decline as Mercury Removed from Childhood Vaccines

Independent Analysis Refutes Institute of Medicine Claims of “No Relationship,” While Mercury Still Used in Flu & Other Vaccines

16 posted on 09/13/2011 1:58:21 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: winoneforthegipper

Complete lying BS.


17 posted on 09/13/2011 2:00:14 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Elendur; All
Texas vaccination information here:

2010-2011 Texas Vaccine Exemption Information

18 posted on 09/13/2011 2:00:47 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: winoneforthegipper
To keep saying Perry "hasn't been vetted" shows how stupid you are. You do know that he has been elected three times and that he ran against a Democrat every time, don't you? Those Democrats used every particle of dirt they could find against him and if you think Texas Democrats are somehow weak or even honest, you're even dumber than I thought.

You're just regurgitating Democrat smears. Hope you're proud.

19 posted on 09/13/2011 2:06:38 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: winoneforthegipper
There is no 'opt out' as far as the HPV vaccine is concerned. There is no state law nor mandate requiring the vaccination in place at this time in Texas.

So the 'opt out' doesn't apply in any shape or form to that vaccine.

Current info on HPV Vaccine: State Legislation and Statutes

How does your state stack up against the above list?
20 posted on 09/13/2011 2:15:32 PM PDT by deport
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