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Transmission of HPV in general
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Posted on 09/13/2011 1:09:14 PM PDT by xzins

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To: triumphant values
The fact that the sheep were asleep before is not a reason to go back to sleep once we've woken up.

I'll be the first to admit I didn't think too much about vaccines until recently, but government at all levels has lost my trust, and I will question everything it tries to compel me to do.

In the same way I will question the statist record of every candidate, and anyone who wants my vote will have to earn it.

I don't trust any of them, and I doubt I ever will again.

21 posted on 09/13/2011 2:59:53 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: xzins

Information.

It’s always a good thing.

Bump!


22 posted on 09/13/2011 3:00:04 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: goodwithagun
The vaccine is formulated for four strains of HPV. There are over 20 strains of HPV. Therefore, yearly paps are still required to catch HPV regardless of vaccination.

There are over 100 strains of HPV, some of which cause warts and some cause dysplastic changes. Two of the strains the vaccine guards against are the most virulent with regards to causing cancer; other strains cause cancer, but not as quickly, and some of the dysplasias never develop into cancer. I do not know the cross-reactivity of the vaccine with other virus strains.

23 posted on 09/13/2011 3:13:16 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: deport; xzins; All
HPV test might be better predictor of cervical cancer than Pap smear
24 posted on 09/13/2011 3:14:01 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: xzins

Fair enough, but a weak moment was shown.


25 posted on 09/13/2011 3:30:35 PM PDT by rsobin
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To: xzins

The question obviously is whether you as the parent should be making that choice—or if it should be mandated by the state because the drug manufacturer purchased access to the right pols.

I can’t fault Bachmann or Palin for going with the former rather than the latter.

As to the question re: Perry, it’s relevance is both his governing philosophy is very authoritative. He basically says he’s for any mandate that might save lives. (That’s still very Democrat-like despite his having switched parties, IMO) A second question is whether the long-held belief in Texas is correct that he is an especially avid practitioner of crony capitalism—and his Gardasil executive order is an example of that.


26 posted on 09/13/2011 3:43:15 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Marty62

“why would anyone NOT want their child protected”

You mean because there is absolutely zero chance of side effects everyone should get this?

If only life were so simple. Unfortunately there are always decisions to be made about risk versus reward. There are side effects from this vaccine.


27 posted on 09/13/2011 3:46:20 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Rapunzel; xzins; blue-duncan; wmfights
Look at the commercials for attorneys doing class action lawsuits. It is always a 'new' med.

90% of those lawsuits are fraudulent with bogus claims. If someone comes down with any kind of symptom after taking a new medication it is blamed on the "new drug" and then the lawyers circle like vultures.

Is it any wonder new drugs cost so damn much?

Don't judge the safety of a drug by the lawyers who hawk their services on daytime TV.

And why are you watching daytime TV anyway?

28 posted on 09/13/2011 3:55:38 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: xzins
Thank you.
29 posted on 09/13/2011 4:24:47 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

You are a smart American! I salute you!


30 posted on 09/13/2011 5:40:50 PM PDT by mazz44
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To: triumphant values
‘________where was everybody______?’

WE WERE HERE, in our community.
But all we did was watch while our daughters’ families refused the hepatitis-b, after reading some information.

However, 1 grandson, now 14, was given the injection in the hospital, after birth.
His parents’ requests were registered, but somehow this got thru. My daughter was beside herself with anger, but ultimately did nothing about it, except to say ‘you weren't supposed to do this.’ And was vigilant after that.

31 posted on 09/13/2011 6:58:49 PM PDT by USARightSide
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To: webstersII

‘There are side effects from this vaccine.’

Right, but our objections are being drowned out, mostly. . .


32 posted on 09/13/2011 7:03:45 PM PDT by USARightSide
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To: xzins

Actually, they may both be right. Some vaccines are for more dangerous than good. The government relationship with pharmaceutical companies are just a little too cozy. There are many research documents out that challenge what government agencies are spewing. One below is an archive and written by Dr. Blaylock. And, no he is not a quack!

I sure hope this site has just been inundated by left wing operatives. I trust true conservatives would not rationalize and respond with this tyoe of certainty regarding government involved agency and universities.

http://www.whale.to/a/blaylock.html


33 posted on 09/13/2011 7:39:05 PM PDT by mazz44
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To: Rapunzel

good thing you didn’t go on avandia! My mother did and it gave her congestive heart failure. of course after her symptoms started and i researched her new meds and found that avandia had that as a side effect she told her doctor about it and they thought we were crazy, silly little internet freaks. she took herself off of it anyway.


34 posted on 09/13/2011 8:21:14 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: xzins

Cervical cancer, which is caused by HPV, is one of the 8th most common cancers for women in the U.S. Thanks to increased cancer screening, fewer women are dying than in previous years. However, the reduction of cervical cancer through HPV vaccinations would be dramatic. I would prefer that both sexes were immunized from HPV infection nation wide before they engage in sexual contact.


35 posted on 09/14/2011 12:36:51 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: jonrick46

And sometimes our young women get HPV without inappropriate intercourse. It’s sad when hpv infects anyone, but for those who’ve done it right and STILL get hpv, that’s a crying shame.

And that’s why a gardasil vaccination is not a bad thing.


36 posted on 09/14/2011 4:59:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins
“It strikes me as a Dad, that my daughters have a chance of getting HPV, even if she isn’t sexually promiscuous. This is especially true if she thinks her husband is uninfected but he doesn’t realize he is or has lied about his own promiscuity.

I would worry about my daughters.

In short, I’d accept the immunization and not pursue the opt-out were I a resident of Texas. As it is, I’d recommend the immunization to them.”

This is the same conclusion we reached, but one can't focus exclusively on the “benefit” (reduced chance of HPV infection) side. There are real risks (side effects) to the HPV vaccination, and these must be weighed against the benefits. And I think we all agree that this is a calculation best made by parents and not the state.

37 posted on 09/14/2011 11:22:27 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg

I support the “opt out” instead of the “opt in” for these reasons:

The opt out says - this is serious and you need to think about it.

The opt in says - this is so insignificant that you can take it or leave it.


38 posted on 09/14/2011 12:22:52 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: riverdawg; P-Marlowe; wmfights; Cincinatus' Wife

I support the “opt out” instead of the “opt in” for these reasons:

The opt out says - this is serious and you need to think about it.

The opt in says - this is so insignificant that you can take it or leave it.


39 posted on 09/14/2011 12:23:12 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins

It certainly does.


40 posted on 09/14/2011 12:35:56 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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