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Fox: Obama Jobs Bill Regulates Home Paint Removal, strictly limits political speech to 17 examples
Fox News Channel | 9/13/11

Posted on 09/13/2011 1:10:50 PM PDT by pabianice

Not making this up. 25,500 pages regulating your entire life, moment to moment. Strict fines and/or imprisonment for violations.


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WTH was that thin pamphlet Obama waved at the camera when giving his Jobsageddon speech?
1 posted on 09/13/2011 1:10:54 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Nachum

Ping.


2 posted on 09/13/2011 1:12:57 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: pabianice

Where is the link?


3 posted on 09/13/2011 1:13:06 PM PDT by svcw ( http://www.internetlastpage.com)
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To: pabianice

It would be nice to see a link and a little more information about the limiting of political speech in a paint removal bill.


4 posted on 09/13/2011 1:13:13 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: pabianice

Could you flesh this out a bit.....


5 posted on 09/13/2011 1:13:28 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: pabianice
25,500 pages regulating your entire life

I thought it hadn't been written yet. Is it online?

6 posted on 09/13/2011 1:13:41 PM PDT by giotto
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To: pabianice

Probably a transcript of the speech.


7 posted on 09/13/2011 1:13:55 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: svcw

It was live on Fox with Cavuto. There is no link.


8 posted on 09/13/2011 1:15:52 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: pabianice

You must be watching Cavuto. I just seen it too


9 posted on 09/13/2011 1:17:25 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: pabianice

regulations...smegulations....we’re going to regulate HIM out of office!


10 posted on 09/13/2011 1:17:59 PM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: pabianice

Throw me a bone here. (aka...link...info)


11 posted on 09/13/2011 1:18:43 PM PDT by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: pabianice

No it is not the jobs bill. It is a speed reader going on through the 25,000 pages of regulations now in existance, and giving some examples.


12 posted on 09/13/2011 1:19:20 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: stubernx98

Thanks for the correction. These are Obama’s regs after just three years?


13 posted on 09/13/2011 1:22:00 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: pabianice

I heard that one congressman tried to read the bill, and woke up in a tub full of ice with his kidney missing and somebody wrote on the mirror, welcome to the world of AIDS. From that day forward, he wore a hook where his hand should be.


14 posted on 09/13/2011 1:22:40 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: the lastbestlady
Jobs Bill Obama Wants Passed Right Now Hasn’t Been Written Yet
15 posted on 09/13/2011 1:23:24 PM PDT by Errant
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To: goodnesswins

The Tax Americans to Death for Union Benefits bill Obama wants passed, the one that hasn’t been filed yet by any Democrats nor scored by the CBO is only 155 pages long.


16 posted on 09/13/2011 1:25:07 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarahcuda in 2012. Nothing but Net!!!)
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To: pabianice

17 posted on 09/13/2011 1:25:53 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: dead
L M A O !!!!!!
18 posted on 09/13/2011 1:27:17 PM PDT by Gargantua ("I'm only voting for Palin because I can't run for President..." (_8(|) Doh!!!)
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To: giotto
I thought it hadn't been written yet.

The next time someone tells you that this bunch is incompetent, just reflect on how fast they always pull a 25,500 (or more) page bill loaded with land mines out of their a$$ at just the right time. They are either typing nearly at the speed of light or they have crap like this set up far ahead of time, and it ain't the former.

Remember how people said at one time that GWB was "playing chess while the Dems were playing checkers?" That was bull, but right now the Dems (actually the Marxists who are dressed up in the clothes of the old - and dead - Democrat party) are playing chess with a GOP that has forgotten how to even play checkers.

19 posted on 09/13/2011 1:27:32 PM PDT by niteowl77 ("Romneycare," he said as he turned and walked away.)
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To: LostInBayport

Great graphic!


20 posted on 09/13/2011 1:33:55 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: pabianice; All

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/American_Jobs_Act_Sectional_Analysis.pdf


21 posted on 09/13/2011 1:35:58 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

Thanks for the heads up Airmy Air Corps :)

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22 posted on 09/13/2011 1:38:51 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: cuban leaf

It is amazing what one can find on the interwebs!


23 posted on 09/13/2011 1:43:47 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Errant

Part of the bill has been written. It was read into the Senate record and is sitting in the Senate Transportation committee. It was submitted back in May by Patty Murray, Dick Durbin and Susan Collins. It’s S.942, The Infrastructure and Transportation Re-investment and Grant Act. It is intended to fund multi-modal transportation projects, otherwise known as, “Gateways”. The main one being in Patty Murray’s home state of WA and being built by the company that Murray’s husband works for, SSA.

You may have heard of SSA. the longshoremen company that was recently in the news for union violence. SSA is owned by CARRIX and Goldman Sachs is the majority stake holder in CARRIX. The freight to the terminal will be delivered by Warren Buffet’s BNSF, who will receive a large chunk of the money to purchase land for additional rail.


24 posted on 09/13/2011 1:43:54 PM PDT by Eva
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To: pabianice

Did I hear Barry say this bill “will save each middle class family $1,500.00”? How can this be if middle class families don’t pay any tax? Or is he labeling someone making $250,000.00 a year middle class?


25 posted on 09/13/2011 1:49:07 PM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: Errant

Thanks for the info!!


26 posted on 09/13/2011 1:51:14 PM PDT by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: LostInBayport

That must be it

It says MMM MMM MMM as the title...


27 posted on 09/13/2011 1:52:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Darnright
“We will not accept any extremist ideology, on the right or the left. We are a Muslim people, for a moderate Islam, and we will stay on this road,” he said.

Yes they do. The average middle class family pays Social Security taxes at a far higher effective rate than do the wealthy.

28 posted on 09/13/2011 1:53:06 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Tennessee Nana
LOL It does!!
29 posted on 09/13/2011 1:58:38 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: pabianice

Nevil Chamberlin Obama

This should be doa as a slaver bill not a jobs bill.


30 posted on 09/13/2011 1:59:59 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: pabianice
"strictly limits political speech to 17 examples"

I would like to read this part. It is unconstitutional, no matter what it says. And it will never pass Congress!!!

31 posted on 09/13/2011 2:02:17 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Eva
Good work! You should get this to Drudge, Beck, Rush and maybe Tapper @ ABC?

Thanks,

32 posted on 09/13/2011 2:03:36 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Eva; All

worth repeating. FOLLOW THE MONEY FOLKS, this is DC AS USUAL this should be reported

Part of the bill has been written. It was read into the Senate record and is sitting in the Senate Transportation committee. It was submitted back in May by Patty Murray, Dick Durbin and Susan Collins. It’s S.942, The Infrastructure and Transportation Re-investment and Grant Act. It is intended to fund multi-modal transportation projects, otherwise known as, “Gateways”. The main one being in Patty Murray’s home state of WA and being built by the company that Murray’s husband works for, SSA.

You may have heard of SSA. the longshoremen company that was recently in the news for union violence. SSA is owned by CARRIX and Goldman Sachs is the majority stake holder in CARRIX. The freight to the terminal will be delivered by Warren Buffet’s BNSF, who will receive a large chunk of the money to purchase land for additional rail.


33 posted on 09/13/2011 2:16:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: the lastbestlady
It creates a new protected class:

Subtitle D – Prohibition of Discrimination in Employment on the Basis of an Individual's Status as Unemployed

34 posted on 09/13/2011 2:17:16 PM PDT by Errant
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Increases tax on the "rich":

Subtitle A – 28 Percent Limitation on Certain Deductions and Exclusions

35 posted on 09/13/2011 2:20:12 PM PDT by Errant
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To: pabianice

Where are the jackasses on our side screaming this in front of a camera and microphone? If this is true, it’s a no brainer to win the public on examples, holding such a document...I’d suspect it isn’t 25000 pages but rather 25000 words. I hope we aren’t stupid enough to make such a mistake. Scream about paint removal being no way having to do with jobs, but stealing freedom. Another useful line is, “We are not China, we have freedom”.


36 posted on 09/13/2011 2:21:12 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: All
Subtitle B – Tax Carried Interest in Investment Partnerships as Ordinary Income

Subtitle C – Close Loophole for Corporate Jet Depreciation

Subtitle D -- Repeal Oil Subsidies

Looks like it addresses most of Obama's pet peeves...

37 posted on 09/13/2011 2:23:54 PM PDT by Errant
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To: rawhide
I think that should have read: It strictly limits political speech and gives 17 examples of things/phrases that should not be said in a speech.
38 posted on 09/13/2011 2:24:10 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: dead
"I heard that one congressman tried to read the bill, and woke up in a tub full of ice with his kidney missing and somebody wrote on the mirror, welcome to the world of AIDS. From that day forward, he wore a hook where his hand should be."

I heard that too. And if you say his name three times looking over your shoulder at the mirror he will appear.

39 posted on 09/13/2011 2:25:12 PM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: longtermmemmory

"Peas in our time!"

40 posted on 09/13/2011 2:28:22 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: pabianice

This bill is joke with so many poison pills daring the GOP the vote it down. The GOP should not even take it up.


41 posted on 09/13/2011 2:30:43 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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Wait, what are you posting Carry Okie?

I'm not sure I follow the quote from your reply. Wasn't that quote what the Libyan leader?

42 posted on 09/13/2011 2:42:09 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: dead

Canada has the best healthcare system in the world. You just have to die first.


43 posted on 09/13/2011 2:43:42 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: pabianice

Where are the jackasses on our side screaming this in front of a camera and microphone? If this is true, it’s a no brainer to win the public on examples, holding such a document...I’d suspect it isn’t 25000 pages but rather 25000 words. I hope we aren’t stupid enough to make such a mistake. Scream about paint removal being no way having to do with jobs, but stealing freedom. Another useful line is, “We are not China, we have freedom”.


44 posted on 09/13/2011 2:52:13 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Wasn't that quote what the Libyan leader?

Hmmm... you are quite right. Apparently Control-c didn't work, it pasted the prior copy, and I didn't check because the formatting looked OK. I was responding to the poster's assertion that the lower middle class doesn't pay taxes; they certainly do. Thanks, I'll fix it.

45 posted on 09/13/2011 3:03:42 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: pabianice
pabianice wrote:
WTH was that thin pamphlet Obama waved at the camera when giving his Jobsageddon speech?
You mean the Monday afternoon Jobsageddon speech? Or the last Thursday evening Jobsageddon speech?

OK, There were two things here. First, there is the American Jobs Act which is what you saw The Won waving around yesterday. That's the bill he told Congress last Thursday that they must pass immediately. Apparently, he was trying to go beyond Pelosi's "You have to pass the bill so we can see what's in it." The new Democrat plan is, "You have to pass the bill so we can write it." That's what last Thursday's speech sounded like to me.

Then, there's regulations. Regulations don't get written until after the law has been passed and is being implemented. There are no regulations from the "American Jobs Act" yet because the act hasn't been passed yet and signed into law by Obama.

I think, the speed reader on Cavuto today was reading >25,000 pages of regulations from something else. Perhaps from the Health Care law, or perhaps from a single month (that's about right for this administration for a "normal" month).

Still, fox is getting focused these days on some of the regulations that are killing business in this country.

I'll take the opportunity to plug my idea on this. I've already sent this to my (RINO Establishement) Republican Congress Critter. I suggest others should pass this up to their congres critters as well:

My proposal would have to be passed by Congress and signed by a President. It has zero chance of actually becoming law, but here it is:


Regulations are not Laws Act

No regulation proposed by the Executive Branch or any agency thereof shall have the force of law until it is passed by a majority of both houses of Congress and signed into law by the President.

All regulations currently documented in the "Code of Federal Regulations" will sunset 5 years after the passage of this act, unless those regulations are presented to Congress and passed by a majority in both houses of the Congress and signed into law by the President.

That's really the only way we will be freed from these regulations.

The Constitution states “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.” For many years, the Executive branch has been exercising legislative powers through regulations and subjecting the people of this country to new laws with no accountability to the voters. This is the heart of the problem.

My proposal would start to undo that damage and address the fundamental threat to our liberty from executive regulations.

Republicans would rather have the political issue and nibble back at the regulations a few at a time than address the real issue. Besides, when they get control of the Congress and the Presidency, Republicans will use "their turn" to further their favorite regulations and abuse and usurp powers not granted to the executive in the Constitution. They won't stop it because they want the power when they get "their turn."

46 posted on 09/13/2011 3:10:52 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: Darnright; Alas Babylon!
Sorry about the prior reply, the control-c apparently didn't take. Here is the quote to which I was replying:

How can this be if middle class families don’t pay any tax? Or is he labeling someone making $250,000.00 a year middle class?

Here is what I said:

Yes they do. The average middle class family pays Social Security taxes at a far higher effective rate than do the wealthy.

With my apologies to the forum.

A lot of posters here don't seem to realize that the lower middle class often pays a HIGHER rate of tax when it comes to disposable income. Much of it is hidden in the products they buy, sales taxes, property taxes on their rental housing, and of course Social Security, which is capped for upper income earners. Meanwhile, said higher income earners often benefit from tax-exempt income, both bennies and luxuries footed by their employers or from capital gains, or tax-exempt investment income.

One can argue all one wants about how the lower middle class and poor pay little to no INCOME taxes, but to say that they don't pay taxes at all is just plain wrong, it alienates people we should be attracting, and it is distorting the facts for political purposes.

47 posted on 09/13/2011 3:11:17 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Darnright; Alas Babylon!
I would like to add that it is equally hypocritical to say that 'you cannot tax a corporation because they just pass it on to consumers' while simultaneously claiming that said consumers don't pay any taxes. WE SHOULD INSTEAD BE TELLING THE LOWER INCOME WORKERS THAT THE TAXES THEY PAY ARE HURTING THEIR CLIMB OUT OF POVERTY. To claim otherwise is not only plain wrong and unjust but harms our chances of winning elections by alienating people into the Democrat camp.
48 posted on 09/13/2011 3:21:57 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: ColdOne

I just read that summary at the link you posted. I need to get a nausea medication and go lay down now.


49 posted on 09/13/2011 3:27:42 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: KC Burke

I read through it felt the same way.


50 posted on 09/13/2011 3:34:54 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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