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CDC Takes Closer Look at Gardasil and Paralysis (Bachmann is right
US News ^ | 04/20/09 | US News

Posted on 09/13/2011 5:34:35 PM PDT by markedmannerf

Phil Tetlock and Barbara Mellers were in a race against time to save their 15-year-old daughter, Jenny. As I reported last summer, Jenny developed a degenerative muscle disease nearly two years ago, soon after being vaccinated against the cervical-cancer-causing HPV. She became nearly completely paralyzed, though her mind was perfectly intact and she could still enjoy her pet parakeet, Hannah Montana, and Twilight.

I've been E-mailing Phil regularly over the past year, and up until our last E-mail, one week ago, he had been holding out hope that they would be able to find a cure for his daughter—or to at least determine if the human papillomavirus vaccine called Gardasil had caused his daughter's illness, most likely a juvenile form of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (aka Lou Gehrig's disease). Sadly, the clock ran out last Sunday, and Jenny passed away.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antivax; bachmann; bachmann4romney; gardasil; gradasil; hpv; perry; perrycare; rino; rinoperry; smearcampaign; vaccines; vacinations
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1 posted on 09/13/2011 5:34:45 PM PDT by markedmannerf
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To: markedmannerf
http://truthaboutgardasil.org/
2 posted on 09/13/2011 5:35:45 PM PDT by markedmannerf
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To: markedmannerf

All vaccines run this risk.


3 posted on 09/13/2011 5:42:20 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: markedmannerf

I thought Bachmann claimed mental retardation.


4 posted on 09/13/2011 5:42:29 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife
I thought Bachmann claimed mental retardation.

Shhhhhhh! You'll mess up a perfectly good anti-Perry thread!

5 posted on 09/13/2011 5:43:51 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: markedmannerf

“It’s impossible to say at this point whether these girls would have developed the condition regardless of whether they received Gardasil, but government officials—who still strongly maintain that the vaccine is perfectly safe and potentially lifesaving—are now starting to investigate.”

If Bachmann stated that Gardisil led to this condition then the add on to the headline is an emphatic lie. If she said that it may have led to the condition then the add-on is not a lie.

Which is it?


6 posted on 09/13/2011 5:44:06 PM PDT by Grunthor (Yes I know about Dream acts and Gardasils.....I just don't care. I'm voting Perry.)
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To: markedmannerf

Bachmann was interviewed today and her account of the claim about the hazard of vaccine was that she was recently talking with a mother who made that claim about her daughter’s reaction to a vaccination. She stated that she was not a medical professional and wasn’t making any claims, only repeating the experience of a third party.


7 posted on 09/13/2011 5:45:27 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: mylife

Dammit there you go pointing out facts and stuff. Can’t even have a good anti-Perry thread around here because of nit-pickers like you insisting on silly little things like “truth.”

;-)


8 posted on 09/13/2011 5:45:42 PM PDT by Grunthor (Yes I know about Dream acts and Gardasils.....I just don't care. I'm voting Perry.)
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To: mylife

While you’re ‘thinking’ - try researching side effects of the drug -
then you can ‘opine’ with a bit of knowledge before ‘softly slamming’ someone.


9 posted on 09/13/2011 5:45:46 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: markedmannerf
Deborah Kotz, senior writer for U.S. News & World Report, covers everything women care about when it comes to their health. She's often tapping out "Oprah-esque" confessions about how the latest news relates to her personally—whether it's on breast cancer, contraception or easing work-family stress.
10 posted on 09/13/2011 5:45:50 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: markedmannerf

so is it now banned by the CDC or the FDA ?


11 posted on 09/13/2011 5:46:36 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: Rudder

Someone will pay the ultimate price so that the majority can gain a benefit. Sounds like human sacrifice to me.


12 posted on 09/13/2011 5:47:16 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: markedmannerf

I would like to get this to Jonah Goldberg who pooh-poohed Michele Bachmann’s remarks last night on the debate about this subject. He made his comments tonight on the FOX roundtable. I can’t find any contact for him.

All of our kids are under forced vaccinations orders - if not by the federal government, certainly by states who require them for school attendance with few exceptions/waivers.

I certainly do hope and pray this comes to the attention of those who could put a stop to it; from the CDC and pediatricians to state legislatures.


13 posted on 09/13/2011 5:47:16 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: mylife
I thought Bachmann claimed mental retardation.

Yes, you are correct, she did allege mental retardation.

14 posted on 09/13/2011 5:47:36 PM PDT by RobertClark (People sleep peaceably in their beds at night b'cse good men are rdy to do violence on their behalf)
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To: All
http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2010/sep/judicial-watch-uncovers-fda-records-detailing-16-new-deaths-tied-gardasil Washington, DC -- September 28, 2010 Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has received new documents from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), detailing reports of adverse reactions to the vaccination for human papillomavirus (HPV), Gardasil. The adverse reactions include 16 new deaths (including four suicides) between May 2009 and September 2010. The FDA also produced 789 “serious” reports, with 213 cases resulting in permanent disability and 25 resulting in a diagnosis of Guillain Barre Syndrome. Adverse report excerpts include: A nineteen year old girl with no medical history except occasional cases bronchitis received Gardasil and in 53 days, had “Headache, Nausea, dizziness, chilling, tiredness, shortness of breath, complained of chest plain, severe cramps.” She experienced an Acute Cardiac Arrhythmia. Attempts to resuscitate her resulted in a sternal fracture, but were unsuccessful and the patient died. — V. 356938 A thirteen year old girl was vaccinated on July 17th, 2009. Ten days later, she developed a fever and was treated. However, “the patient did not recover and was admitted to the hospital on [August 8th]…She developed dyspnoea and went into a coma…she expired [that day] at around 9:00 pm. The cause of death was determined as ‘death due to viral fever.’ … This event occurred after 23 days of receiving first dose of Gardasil. — V. 380081 Thirteen days after vaccination, a ten year old girl developed “progressive loss of strength in lower and upper extremities almost totally…Nerve conduction studies [showed Guillain Barre Syndrome].” Case was “considered to be immediately life-threatening.” — V. 339375 One mother of a 13-year old girl who died 37 days after receiving the vaccination noted in a report: “I first declined getting her the vaccination but her doctor ensured me that it was safe…” After her daughter complained of a severe headache, no feeling in her foot and a tingling feeling in her leg, a doctor’s appointment was set for October 23, 2009. “My daughter never made it to Oct[ober] 23rd, which is also her birthday,” the mother noted. “She passed on Oct[ober] 17th, I found her cold unresponsive in her room at 7am....” “To say Gardasil has a suspect safety record is a big understatement. These reports are troubling and show that the FDA and other public health authorities may be asleep at the switch,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “In the meantime, the public relations push for Gardasil by Merck and politicians on Capitol Hill continues. No one should require this vaccine for young children.”
15 posted on 09/13/2011 5:48:15 PM PDT by markedmannerf
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To: All; markedmannerf
National Cancer Institute - Human Papillomavirus (HPV) Vaccines (09/09/2011)

8. How safe are the HPV vaccines?

Before any vaccine is licensed, the FDA must determine that it is both safe and effective. Both Gardasil and Cervarix have been tested in tens of thousands of people in the United States and many other countries. Thus far, no serious side effects have been shown to be caused by the vaccines. The most common problems have been brief soreness and other local symptoms at the injection site. These problems are similar to ones commonly experienced with other vaccines. The vaccines have not been sufficiently tested during pregnancy and, therefore, should not be used by pregnant women.

A recent safety review by the FDA and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) considered adverse side effects related to Gardasil immunization that have been reported to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System since the vaccine was licensed (14). The rates of adverse side effects in the safety review were consistent with what was seen in safety studies carried out before the vaccine was approved and were similar to those seen with other vaccines.


16 posted on 09/13/2011 5:48:19 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: markedmannerf
All vaccines and medications run the risk of being dangerous to any one given human being.

Michelle Bauchman shot from the hip, which is characteristically becoming more and more her style.

She really starts almost screaming her dialogue. She is pretty self-absorbed in her self- I have Core Values-I was the only one-I raised 5 kids and 32 foster children-

17 posted on 09/13/2011 5:48:58 PM PDT by not2worry (A credible message needs a credible messenger because charisma without character is catastrophe.)
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To: theBuckwheat
Presidential candidates need to base their decisions on facts, not here say!
18 posted on 09/13/2011 5:50:30 PM PDT by not2worry (A credible message needs a credible messenger because charisma without character is catastrophe.)
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To: newzjunkey
Shhhhhhh! You'll mess up a perfectly good anti-Perry thread!

So what was Perry's reason for forcing young girls to get vaccinated with this?

19 posted on 09/13/2011 5:51:15 PM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: Thank You Rush

Reading your moniker reminded me that Rush said today he needed to study up on vaccinations. He said ‘cause he didn’t have kids, he really didn’t have it on his radar screen. A lot of us are not up on this particular issue.


20 posted on 09/13/2011 5:51:35 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: markedmannerf
More anti vaccine BS citing a nobody at US Snooze on the issue. She even summarizes that she has no clue. Why no one looks to people with education in this field. This is what Henry Miller had to say at NRO today:

In the extensive clinical studies (on more than 20,000 girls and women) that were performed prior to the FDA’s licensing of the vaccine, the vaccine was 100 percent effective, a virtually unprecedented result. How safe is the vaccine? No serious side effects were detected; the most common side effect is soreness, redness and swelling in the arm at the site of the injection. In summary, Gardasil has one of the most favorable risk-benefit ratios of any pharmaceutical.

http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/277093

I also guess you would think that the Polio and Small Pox vaccines were dangerous. Hit Perry on the mandate, which is not the way to do anything, but let's get some education on the actual vaccine.

21 posted on 09/13/2011 5:51:35 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: markedmannerf

Listening to Bachmann repeat all her wildeyed charges last night was like nails on a blackboard. She’s toast.


22 posted on 09/13/2011 5:51:41 PM PDT by o2bfree
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To: markedmannerf

This is pure claptrap.
The author herself says there is no evidence that Guardasil was responsible for the ALS.


23 posted on 09/13/2011 5:51:50 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Grunthor
If Bachmann stated that Gardisil led to this condition then the add on to the headline is an emphatic lie. If she said that it may have led to the condition then the add-on is not a lie.

Which is it?

Absent conclusive evidence of a link, the allegation is completely unfounded. There have been over 50 million doses of Gardisil dispensed. To state a link is absurd, scientifically speaking.

24 posted on 09/13/2011 5:52:53 PM PDT by RobertClark (People sleep peaceably in their beds at night b'cse good men are rdy to do violence on their behalf)
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To: newzjunkey
You'll mess up a perfectly good anti-Perry thread

Why are you defending him? By passing this Executive Order, Perry not only bypassed the Texas Legislature, but more importantly, he rode roughshod over the right of parents to decide what's best for their children. He had no right and no reason to do this. It amounted to tyranny. Do we want yet another tyrant in charge of all 50 states?

25 posted on 09/13/2011 5:53:56 PM PDT by giotto
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To: markedmannerf

Bachmann is an idiot.


26 posted on 09/13/2011 5:54:23 PM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: newzjunkey

I for one don’t trust the FDA.Beyond the fact that there is evidence that this drug could be dangerous is the fact that a the executive order was used to push this through. It is forced on the parents to get there children this vaccine. Which there seems to be evidence it is dangerous. I know there was an opt-out. I’m sure many parents did know that was an option. Why not make it opt-in instead? I just think this whole thing is an overreach of government. Im sure many evangelical Christians will agree with me that a vaccine for there 12 year old for a disease that is transmitted sexually is a no go! Perry apparently does not understand this


27 posted on 09/13/2011 5:54:58 PM PDT by markedmannerf
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To: PMAS

so is it now banned by the CDC or the FDA ?

Of course not. Those agencies are responsible for the maintainance of pharma profits, not patient health.


28 posted on 09/13/2011 5:56:46 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: markedmannerf
More on this at Judical Watch: http://www.judicialwatch.org/gardasil
29 posted on 09/13/2011 5:57:49 PM PDT by markedmannerf
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To: Thank You Rush; All
Bachmann is spreading alarmist anti-vax drivel and admitted it was only hearsay on Hannity this afternoon. She also said parents were just too busy to monitor their child's health and vaccinations. Is she kidding? As a parent she knows you're never to busy for your child's health!

You seem to be under the misapprehension that the FDA and others do not do follow up safety studies. They do. I posted the National Cancer Institute's statement, here's the CDC's:

There are two licensed HPV vaccines, Gardasil® and Cervarix®, available to protect against the types of HPV infection that cause most cervical cancers. Gardasil® was licensed for use in females, age 9-26 years in June 2006 and for males age 9-26 years in Oct 2009. Cervarix® was licensed for use in females age 10-25 in October 2009.

The safety of HPV vaccines was studied in clinical trials worldwide before licensure. For Gardasil® , over 29,000 males and females participated in these trials. For Cervarix®, over 30,000 females participated in several clinical trials.

Since licensure, CDC and FDA have been closely monitoring the safety of HPV vaccines…

Based on all of the information we have today, CDC recommends HPV vaccination for the prevention of most types of cervical cancer. As with all approved vaccines, CDC and FDA will continue to closely monitor the safety of HPV vaccines. Any problems detected with these vaccines will be reported to health officials, healthcare providers, and the public and needed action will be taken to ensure the public's health and safety.

CDC Aug 8, 2011 - Reports of Health Concerns Following HPV Vaccination


30 posted on 09/13/2011 6:03:13 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: Rudder

All vaccines have certain risks, but maybe not this one.

That is why I choose not to vaccinate my 14 year old twin daughters with this vaccine because there is no upside to it. There is nothing to be gained because my girls are celibate.

One of my daughters has lots of medical issues (brain injury, seizures, heart arrhythmia). I talked to her cardiologist about this vaccine and she even said why risk it at this point.


31 posted on 09/13/2011 6:03:27 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: markedmannerf

I remember a lot of hysteria over the MMR &, later, the chickenpox vaccines. Not so much anymore & those vaccines are still being used.


32 posted on 09/13/2011 6:06:00 PM PDT by elli1
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To: giotto

The EO was the only real issue.
Perry himself said it was wrong and it was struck down.
What more do you want from him on the matter?

Obama has been a trillion times worse and his legislation still stands.


33 posted on 09/13/2011 6:06:00 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: giotto

BTW is is hard to “actually govern” for a decade without stepping in something or other.


34 posted on 09/13/2011 6:07:41 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Codeflier

Maybe you should add Rick Perry to your tagline.

After all, a popular conservative candidate on FR is a liberal republican that people make excuses for.


35 posted on 09/13/2011 6:07:41 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Lazlo in PA
I also guess you would think that the Polio and Small Pox vaccines were dangerous.

Except that children don't get HPV sitting next to someone in class. Whether kids get this vaccine should be solely up to parents. Government needs to butt out.

36 posted on 09/13/2011 6:09:15 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Codeflier

Maybe you should add Rick Perry to your tagline.

After all, a popular conservative candidate on FR is a liberal republican that people make excuses for.


37 posted on 09/13/2011 6:10:31 PM PDT by dforest
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To: markedmannerf
The Governor’s Executive Order (RP 65) that caused all the controversy also ordered the director of DSHS to make it easier for parents to opt out of vaccines. The Legislature had changed the law from “opt in” to a requirement to “opt out” once for all the school years. Next, they changed to a two year limit on the opt out, and then in 2005, the Legislature restricted the period to one year and required a new State form bearing a “seal.” Parents had to go to Austin or start early in the summer. There were bureaucrats who maintained that the only way to get the form with the seal was to go to Austin, find the right office and make the request in person. Perry used his EO to tell the Director of DSHS to make the request (and the seal) available on-line, making it easier to “opt out.”

http://wingright.org/2011/08/07/dose-of-reason-perry-and-gardasil/

Did he bypass the Legislature? Yes. Was there any sinister, tyrannical intent behind it? No.

I have reasons to scrutinize Perry as a potential nominee. This issue isn't one of them.

38 posted on 09/13/2011 6:11:57 PM PDT by edpc (Former Normalcy Bias Victim)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Whether kids get this vaccine should be solely up to parents.

IT IS!

39 posted on 09/13/2011 6:13:10 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

There are school systems “requesting” that kids get this vaccine. Parents should make it abundantly clear to them that it should never be mandatory. You know as well as I do that government will push if they believe they can get away with it.


40 posted on 09/13/2011 6:16:24 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Whether kids get this vaccine should be solely up to parents. Government needs to butt out.

That isn't what the poster is doing here. He is pushing an anti Gardasil line using some story about a girl and then links to his own activism site in the vaccine. If you read the end of my post I said Perry's mandate was BS. No way around it. The issue of the post is to slam the vaccine on scant evidence.

Except that children don't get HPV sitting next to someone in class.

What about the hepatitis vaccines that kids are forced to get to attend public schools. Is that one dangerous as well?

41 posted on 09/13/2011 6:16:42 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: luckystarmom

I chose not to get this vaccine for my daughter. When it first came out and everyone was beating the drum I thought that because it was so new I would not use my daughter as a guinie pig. Since it hadn’t been tried and true how did we know that we weren’t sterilizing an entire generation? stranger things have happened.


42 posted on 09/13/2011 6:19:43 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: Lazlo in PA; wagglebee
Gardasil is not proven. I posted a thread some time ago with links. The FDA approved it for 9 year olds before the trials had even begun in Japan. They have no idea how long the vaccine lasts nor what side affects, if any, happen over time or after puberty.

Again, children do not get HPV by sitting in class.

43 posted on 09/13/2011 6:20:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: indylindy

Let us move onto the Tx DREAM act.
That’s going to be more of an issue than this and Perry stated that it was a 10th amendment issue.
We have a 38% hispanic population in Tx and and a 1500 mile border that the FEDS wont enforce.
Perry and all but 4 votes in the house and senate decided that there would be less burden on Tx tax payers if we had these kids on the path to citizenship and being productive workers, rather than being on the dole.

You may not like that but it doesn’t cost you a penny as a no Texas resident, and the entire matter was proposed as a way to mitigate costs to Texas taxpayers.

I understand that it “appears” to reward illegal behavior.
Some would argue that it promotes good behavior.


44 posted on 09/13/2011 6:22:42 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: DJ MacWoW

How is a local school systems “request” a mandate by Perry?


45 posted on 09/13/2011 6:23:53 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: markedmannerf

I actually posted a pro-vaccine comment earlier today, although I said I didn’t really think THIS vaccine falls into the category of protecting the PUBLIC health.

However, it is true that with some of these newer vaccines the side-effects, or suspected side-effects can indeed be worse than the disease.

Assume for a moment that these girls’ conditions were triggered by the vaccine. First of all they may never have contracted HPV at all. Secondly it may not have developed to cervical cancer. Thirdly, there is treatment for cervical cancer, there’s none for ALS.

There is an ad that I’ve seen on TV, I think it is for a vaccine for meningitis. It states on the ad that Guillain-Barre syndrome is a potential side effect. That is the total paralysis sometimes called “locked-in” syndrome. I think I’d rather take my chances with meningitis.

I know a fellow whose father-in-law died of this. They actually think he got it from getting the H1N1 flu shot.

There is NO reason to make the gardisil vaccine mandatory. NONE.


46 posted on 09/13/2011 6:25:57 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: markedmannerf
Why not make it opt-in instead? I just think this whole thing is an overreach of government. I'm sure many evangelical Christians will agree with me that a vaccine for their 12 year old for a disease that is transmitted sexually is a no go!

This Catholic agrees, too. BTW, how dare you criticize government overreach on a site entitled Free Republic! Thanks for all the information you posted.

47 posted on 09/13/2011 6:26:51 PM PDT by eens (beware the errors of Russia)
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To: mylife

I never mentioned Perry. If you’re looking for a fight, you’ll have to look elsewhere. My beef is purely with Gardasil.


48 posted on 09/13/2011 6:28:30 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: newzjunkey

I don’t think the girl died to make your candidate look bað.


49 posted on 09/13/2011 6:29:08 PM PDT by tarotsailor
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To: eens

Opt out was done because opt in changed the cost of the vaccine.


50 posted on 09/13/2011 6:31:27 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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