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Scientists: Bacteria spreading in warming oceans
Yahoo ^ | 9/13/11 | Don Melvin - ap

Posted on 09/13/2011 7:37:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

BRUSSELS (AP) — Warning: The warming of the world's oceans can cause serious illness and may cost millions of euros (dollars) in health care.

That is the alarm sounded in a paper released online Tuesday on the eve of a two-day conference in Brussels.

The 200-page paper is a synthesis of the findings of more than 100 projects funded by the European Union since 1998. It was produced by Project CLAMER, a collaboration of 17 European marine institutes.

The paper says the rising temperature of ocean water is causing a proliferation of the Vibrio genus of bacteria, which can cause food poisoning, serious gastroenteritis, septicemia and cholera.

"Millions of euros in health costs may result from human consumption of contaminated seafood, ingestion of waterborne pathogens, and, to a lesser degree, though direct occupational or recreational exposure to marine disease," says the paper. "Climatic conditions are playing an increasingly important role in the transmission of these diseases."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bacteria; oceans; scientists; spreading

1 posted on 09/13/2011 7:38:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Project Clamer..

no relation to a Leftist media’s ‘Project Clymer’..


2 posted on 09/13/2011 7:40:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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http://www.clamer.eu/

Climate Change and European Marine Ecosystem Research.

CLAMER is funded under the European Commission’s Seventh Framework Programme.


3 posted on 09/13/2011 7:41:39 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Seems that the only thing spreading is bullcrap....


4 posted on 09/13/2011 7:42:46 PM PDT by ToxicMich
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To: NormsRevenge

Wait, I thought I just read something about another La Nina heading our way. Isn’t that supposed to be the result of cooling oceans?


5 posted on 09/13/2011 7:43:06 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh noes.... we are all going to die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Notice how all these stories are coming out before Al Gore’s big 24 hours of gorebull warming? They neglected to tell everyone that it will just be a one hour recording played over and over.


6 posted on 09/13/2011 7:43:12 PM PDT by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: NormsRevenge

They should protect bacteria, they are very small. Humans are bad for earth.


7 posted on 09/13/2011 7:44:24 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: NormsRevenge

No change then, the ocean already costs millions of euros (dollars) in Healthcare.

I will sleep easy tonight.


8 posted on 09/13/2011 7:47:59 PM PDT by dila813
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To: NormsRevenge

I am skeered Algore. Halp me.


9 posted on 09/13/2011 7:48:26 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: NormsRevenge
The only obvious solution is to build a giant slingshot to launch giant water balloons at the sun. That's the only way they'll stop the supposed warming of the oceans.
10 posted on 09/13/2011 7:49:42 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Looking forward to kicking Chicago out of Washington.)
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To: NormsRevenge
One of the first things you learn in statistics class is: Where do my data start? I keep hearing that the oceans have warmed by 1C, which is hardly enough to cause the "earth's delicate balance" to come apart. A much longer trend shows the oceans are cooler than the historical average. Now, it's notoriously difficult to measure the oceans' temperatures because there is no one temperature, but even so, if anyone thinks it's possible to measure the oceans' average temperature a hundred years ago, you're as crazy (but not as evil) as Al Gore.

We can look at a trend, but that too is confusing. The oceans have some very long cyclical trends, around 800 years, and we've only had modern measurement systems very recently. So, we're stuck with looking at a tiny data window and trying to paste it on horrendously long-term trends that we don't know. Certainly one 800-year trend isn't statistically enough either.

In short, anyone who talks about sea temperatures, ice melting, and especially sea level rises, is full of kelp. These numbers cannot be pinned down and ultimately are what anyone wants them to be.

11 posted on 09/13/2011 7:56:40 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: volunbeer
Notice how all these stories are coming out before Al Gore’s big 24 hours of gorebull warming? They neglected to tell everyone that it will just be a one hour recording played over and over.

Yes indeed! Cabbage Patch Gore is making a run at cheap publicity. I made it abundantly clear on my FaceBook page that anyone that has donated their page to Gore for the 24 hour period will be relegated to the wastebin of history - for being ignorant.

12 posted on 09/13/2011 7:57:35 PM PDT by RobertClark (People sleep peaceably in their beds at night b'cse good men are rdy to do violence on their behalf)
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To: NormsRevenge

Key words: Yahoo, AP.


13 posted on 09/13/2011 7:59:46 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: NormsRevenge

Warmer oceans? Has La Nina been cancelled? Good...we could use a little “climate change” here in Texas.


14 posted on 09/13/2011 8:07:34 PM PDT by Tim n Texas
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To: ElectronVolt
Ever seen a thermocline from below? Somehow I get the idea that the quacks have no idea what to do with is so they ignore it.
15 posted on 09/13/2011 8:08:51 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: NormsRevenge
The paper says the rising temperature of ocean water is causing a proliferation of the Vibrio genus of bacteria, which can cause food poisoning, serious gastroenteritis, septicemia and cholera.

Oh Kaaaay. So don't drink seawater.

(D'oh!)

16 posted on 09/13/2011 8:10:44 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Cook the dang sushi!

Problem solved!


17 posted on 09/13/2011 8:12:48 PM PDT by djf (One of the few FReepers who NEVER clicked the "dead weasel" thread!! But may not last much longer...)
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To: NormsRevenge

Vibrio is the cause of seafood born food poisoning or sickness from contaminated water. It is related to Cholera. It’s not new or special.
This is fear mongering.

Vibrio vulnificus outbreaks commonly occur in warm climates and small, generally lethal, outbreaks occur regularly. An outbreak occurred in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina [7] and several lethal cases occur most years in Florida.[8]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrio


18 posted on 09/13/2011 8:14:58 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: NormsRevenge
We would love to have warming oceans! It would make the weather in Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas so much wetter! Unfortunately, La Nina is BACK... And the Pacific is getting COLDER.
19 posted on 09/13/2011 8:21:38 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Is Solyndra behind this?


20 posted on 09/13/2011 8:23:31 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: ElectronVolt
The article is mostly “crap” and that is a very appropriate description of the article. Vibro Cholera will have greater numbers in warm water. However, the article does not relate the increase in temps to any specific part of the world with specific numbers on the increase in water temperature. This alone makes the article scientific crap. Vibro Cholera is spread via individuals that are infected with Vibro Cholera and is spread via the local water sources when they void themselves and as I said, crap is very appropriate for this article.

If you want to argue science give me water temps, colonies per ml, local environment, pollution sources, public water supply conditions, etc, etc, etc.

The article is political advocacy and not science. If you want science follow this link. It is long and complex but it is real science and not CRAP!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC241529/pdf/aem00153-0184.pdf

21 posted on 09/13/2011 8:33:08 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: NormsRevenge

So keep writing those big checks to us climate scientists or suffer the consequences.

Well, when truth doesn’t work, try extortion.


22 posted on 09/13/2011 8:38:50 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: NormsRevenge

” - - - Philippart said some of the effects could even themselves contribute to global warming.
The greater acidification of the ocean might mean that algae would be able to capture less carbon dioxide, she said. “Then there will be a further increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, leading to greater warming.” - - - “

This is a classic example of junk scientists not bothering to use The Scientific Method.

1.) Notice the word “might” (implying doubt) in the third line above.
2.) Notice in the 4 th line that doubt has been replaced by the implied certainty phrase: “Then there will be.”
3.) Then comes the money statement “ - - - leading to global warming. “

Grants are renewed! Hail to Junk Science! Long live the speculation leap from doubt to certainty!


23 posted on 09/13/2011 8:40:43 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obamatrauma"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The Enviroweenies are looking for another scam to sell Global Warming to the ignorant masses.


24 posted on 09/13/2011 8:45:12 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Graewoulf

See post 21, we are on the same page.


25 posted on 09/13/2011 8:49:53 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Nothing to worry about. Fukushima Radiation will kill it.


26 posted on 09/13/2011 9:06:32 PM PDT by Revel
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To: NormsRevenge

I smell Liberal panic.


27 posted on 09/13/2011 9:17:55 PM PDT by oyez ( America is being pimped.)
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To: SubMareener
We would love to have warming oceans! It would make the weather in Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas so much wetter! Unfortunately, La Nina is BACK... And the Pacific is getting COLDER

100% CORRECT! Due to the prevailing winds from the South West, most of the rain in Texas is a function of water and air temps in the Pacific Ocean. The coastal regions of Texas do get rain as a function of the Gulf of Mexico. However Texas as a whole is dependent on Pacific Moisture.

La Nina has cooled the Pacific. A result of this is less moisture in the airflow from the prevailing winds in Texas. Less moisture means less rain and less cloud cover. Less cloud cover means very high day time temperatures and moderately higher night time temps dependent on the normal local cloud cover. If the local cloud cover in normal conditions is high, La Nina could actually cause night time temps to be moderately lower instead of higher.

When we have El Nino (high temps in the Pacific) life is good in Texas. When we have La Nina (low temps in the Pacific) the weather in Texas sucks. The weather pattern that caused the "Dust Bowl" was several years of La Nina. I hope we are not repeating this.

28 posted on 09/13/2011 9:23:07 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Therefore we must immediately spend trillions of dollars to reduce CO2 output and send us all back to the stone age with highly priced energy only a few apparatchiks can afford. Government can simply pass some laws forbidding any resultant disease outbreaks. Maybe it can incarcerate the bacteria and viruses that break the new laws.


29 posted on 09/13/2011 9:48:16 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: cpdiii; All

ALL: Go to post # 21 and read the article in the hot link.

It is a peer-reviewed article, and uses most parts of The Scientific Method.

Then read the junk science article, AND SEPARATE FACTS FROM OPINIONS ! If you just read the facts, junk science articles are a fast read.

cpdiii: Thanks for the hot link that “keeps everything turning to the right.”


30 posted on 09/13/2011 9:55:58 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obamatrauma"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: volunbeer

31 posted on 09/13/2011 11:03:09 PM PDT by conservativeimage.com
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To: NormsRevenge

Seed the oceans with ice cubes and chlorinate the water. Problem solved.


32 posted on 09/13/2011 11:31:00 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Hmmm.....since this report is coming from Europe the source of the contagion just might be from onshore into the seas (from rivers, canals, sanitation stations outflow, overflow or just plain out dated technology) but once it gets into the food chain in the oceans it's wild. Not necessarily due to warming sea temperatures but that's a good way to raise money which Europe doesn't have.
33 posted on 09/13/2011 11:34:56 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: NormsRevenge; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

34 posted on 09/14/2011 4:38:14 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Scientists: Bacteria spreading in warming oceans

All findings are subject: "Have you personally, or your research, or anyone on your team ever been subsidized by a group that promotes the fairy tale of AGW?"

If so, how do you expect to be considered credible?

My primary comment however, is: "You aren't truly considered a scientist when it's obvious you performed your research in a meth lab..."

35 posted on 09/14/2011 5:04:30 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: NormsRevenge

If you organize a Committee to Find Trolls, guess what they will find.


36 posted on 09/14/2011 7:59:20 AM PDT by Makana
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