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Rep. Mo Brooks' "Surefire" Jobs Plan for America: "Evict All Illegal Aliens"
Stand With Arizona ^ | 09-14-2011 | John Hill

Posted on 09/14/2011 8:32:58 AM PDT by montag813

by John Hill
Stand With Arizona

"Stimulus". "Deficits". "Taxes". "Green jobs". "Infrustructure". "Revenues".

Bah!

As Washington twists itself into a pretzel with convoluted plots and plans to "create jobs", as usual they miss the forest for the trees. As we have always pointed out, the most obvious solution to many of our financial woes is a simple one: deal with illegal immigration. And with jobs it is no exception. For every illegal with a job there is an American without one.

Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) gets it. He has a "surefire" plan to create jobs in America. And unlike Obama, he doesn't need 40 minutes to explain it.

Let's try 65 seconds:

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afire; brooks; illegals; immigration; jobs; mobrooks

1 posted on 09/14/2011 8:33:04 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Rock on Mo!


2 posted on 09/14/2011 8:34:18 AM PDT by stellaluna
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To: montag813

I am not sure there are enough Americians left willing to work jobs now held by immigrants. I guess this would be one way to find out!


3 posted on 09/14/2011 8:36:33 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: montag813

That is the first thing that should be done regarding jobs. Getting rid of all the illegals would also save tens of billions a year in expenses for services that states are forced to provide for them.


4 posted on 09/14/2011 8:37:25 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: All

DEPORT THEM DONT REWARD THEM


5 posted on 09/14/2011 8:43:06 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: Unassuaged
“I am not sure there are enough Americians left willing to work jobs now held by immigrants. I guess this would be one way to find out!”

Shhhh - stop bringing up the 800 pound gorilla sitting right in the middle of the room that nobody wants to talk about. It feels much better just to talk about “kicking them out” and “building a fence” - no need to discuss the problem right in our own backyard.

My wife used to work for a major retailer. In the early 2000’s the Bush administration put a rule into welfare (since rescinded by zero) that everyone had to work some small amount (it was some odd number, something like 108 hours every two years).

The company my wife worked for got federal money to help hire the “hardcore unemployed.” This was $8 an hour, to work in an air conditioned store with carpeted floors, and simply put clothing back into the racks in the correct size order. They could never attract more than about 60% of the amount of people they needed, and most of the ones that showed up left after a couple of days.

But I'm certain those same folks will be HAPPY to stand in a hot dusty field and pick sugar beets for $4 and hour.

6 posted on 09/14/2011 8:44:28 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: montag813

But, but, where then will liberals purchase needed votes?


7 posted on 09/14/2011 8:47:01 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: jtill

Apparently Mo knows which way the wind is blowing.

He is doing well THIS TIME.


8 posted on 09/14/2011 8:50:24 AM PDT by Jemian
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To: I cannot think of a name

But I’m certain those same folks will be HAPPY to stand in a hot dusty field and pick sugar beets for $4 and hour.


Consider that those wages aren’t JUSTIFIED by the presence of illegals, they’re CAUSED by the presence of illegals.


9 posted on 09/14/2011 8:50:55 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: I cannot think of a name

The 800 pound gorilla in the room is the number of illegitimate democrat seats in congress that are created by the mere presence of some 30 million illegals. (You do the math some 650,000 per congressional district)

Maybe in another ten years or so we’ll have the courage to acknowledge it. It’ll be too late but admitting it is something...I guess.


10 posted on 09/14/2011 8:53:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Beelzebubba
“Consider that those wages aren’t JUSTIFIED by the presence of illegals, they’re CAUSED by the presence of illegals.”

Absolutely correct

But also during your next trip to the supermarket, remember that the 43 cent orange you pick-up isn't JUSTIFIED by the presence of illegals, it is CAUSED by the presence of illegals.

The entire argument reminds me of the old country and western song, “Everybody wants to get to Heaven, but nobody wants to die.”

11 posted on 09/14/2011 8:56:33 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name
If I may politely point out - The first problem with the program at your wife's place of employment was the influx of federal dollars to generate fake jobs. OTOH, I suspect you are quite right about the lack of initial applicants for beet-picking jobs. However, if employers did not have access to people that will accept $4 per hour, what I can see is the invention/application of a beet-picking machine that would be far more efficient than day laborers.
12 posted on 09/14/2011 8:57:33 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: montag813

obama onyango obama, the illegal kenyan, had a liquor clerks job that a legal person should have had.


13 posted on 09/14/2011 8:59:55 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: cripplecreek
“The 800 pound gorilla in the room is the number of illegitimate democrat seats in congress that are created by the mere presence of some 30 million illegals.”

A contributor, but not the real problem.

We have 30 million illegals, that at the bottom line, probably provide more benefit than they do cost.

We have 30 million “hardcore unemployed” that contribute nothing and cost trillions. And they grow in a logarithmic projection.

We can send the 30 million illegals home, but the other 30 million are bankrupting us.

14 posted on 09/14/2011 9:00:22 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Pecos

When I was a kid there were hundreds of migrants picking carrots and onions in my area. Today its a lot more mechanized process. There are still some field hands but their numbers are minimal.

Back in the mid 80s I did plenty of rock picking and hay baling.


15 posted on 09/14/2011 9:02:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

Forgive me but I’m going to have to laugh at you sadly and walk away. You’re selling out your country and trying to justify it for some reason.


16 posted on 09/14/2011 9:04:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

But I’m certain those same folks will be HAPPY to stand in a hot dusty field and pick sugar beets for $4 and hour.
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I’m certain you are severely nearsighted. There are probably 20 solutions to that problem that don’t involve illegal immigration. I can think of 3 without even trying.

as for your ridiculous clothing rack anecdote...walmart seems to have no problem keeping clothes on racks. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?


17 posted on 09/14/2011 9:05:16 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: I cannot think of a name

Just curious, are you a Perry supporter Notsure?


18 posted on 09/14/2011 9:09:39 AM PDT by tumblindice (Governor Rick Perry: "No border fence")
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To: mamelukesabre
Screw America, I want cheap fruit. /s

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19 posted on 09/14/2011 9:11:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

remember that the 43 cent orange you pick-up isn’t JUSTIFIED by the presence of illegals
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nice try. oranges aren’t hand picked.


20 posted on 09/14/2011 9:13:22 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: tumblindice
“Just curious, are you a Perry supporter Notsure?”

No, although I've voted for him three times and probably will if he runs for President. But most of my adult votes have been against somebody else. Only a handful of times has there been a candidate that I would have voted for regardless.

21 posted on 09/14/2011 9:20:39 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: mamelukesabre

“nice try. oranges aren’t hand picked.”

Good catch - I happened to be eating an orange while I was typing. Nonetheless, come down here and I can show you huge fields of tomatoes being picked by wets. (Opps, sorry, showing my age again “illegals”)


22 posted on 09/14/2011 9:22:55 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name

“No, although I’ve voted for him three times and probably will if he runs for President.”

Yar, yer a real piece o’ work matey.


23 posted on 09/14/2011 9:27:06 AM PDT by tumblindice (Governor Rick Perry: "No border fence")
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To: montag813

“Rep. Mo Brooks’ “Surefire” Jobs Plan for America: “Evict All Illegal Aliens””

BUMP.

Someone who gets it.

If Ricardo Perrinista understood this, he could clear the field.


24 posted on 09/14/2011 9:29:24 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn
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To: mamelukesabre
“HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?”

Please go back and read what I wrote a little more carefully. This was a program to hire the “hardcore unemployed”. This is code for people (mainly women) that come from three or more generations that have existed on welfare, that have kids as a profit center, and are totally uncontrolled.

My wife would come home totally frustrated. She'd say things like, “I spent two hours trying to teach them to use the price gun, yet they set around in the break room discussing exactly how much they got if they lived in this much government housing, how much got deducted if they took this kind of benefit versus another kind, and how much they got if they had another kid. They were doing the math in their heads so fast I couldn't keep up.” I told her, “of course they can do that, that's the family business.”

And it is. And they will continue to consume about 500 billion a year and it grows yearly. And it won't stop, and for some reason, apparently no politician really wants to take it on. And I'm sorry, but I really believe it is a bigger problem than the illegals.

25 posted on 09/14/2011 9:31:00 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Beelzebubba
But I’m certain those same folks will be HAPPY to stand in a hot dusty field and pick sugar beets for $4 and hour.

Consider that those wages aren’t JUSTIFIED by the presence of illegals, they’re CAUSED by the presence of illegals.

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Yes this commenter is correct. Competition is what makes Capitalism work, and cheating capitalism is what makes it fail. The illegals come here and get money under the table. They don't pay the taxes that Americans pay for the same work so they are effectively paid twice as much. There are many poor people that will work all day for $10.00 an hour. That will increase the price of vegetables a little but it will also dramatically reduce the burden on society and increase the taxes flowing into the government.

It is time, no way past time to send the illegals home!

26 posted on 09/14/2011 9:33:27 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Unassuaged

A lot more Americans would be willing to work at those “jobs Americans don’t want” if they didn’t get food stamp benefits that they sell for half price or less to raise cash for drugs.

There is a whole industry of dealing in “food stamps” at fifty percent or more discount. Of course in this state at least it is now a card to swipe rather than stamps.


27 posted on 09/14/2011 9:41:11 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: JAKraig

I have actually picked beans, corn, peas, watermelons, cantaloupes etc. so I am very much aware that a doubling of wages for those who still pick by hand would have an almost undetectable effect on the price in the grocery store. Those who claim that paying ten dollars an hour to pickers would double the price of food are simply spouting nonsense. Mechanical harvesting is the future anyway and whether the operator makes five dollars an hour or fifty dollars will have little effect on grocery prices.


28 posted on 09/14/2011 9:53:52 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

Professional welfare moms are a small percentage of total unemployed/underemployed americans. Yes they are an increasing problem. Obviously they are increasing due to their own reproduction.

That is a fixable problem also and it has nothing to do with illegals. It just takes someone with big enough cajones to cut the sows off from the government teat. A simple law that states any woman on assistance that gets pregnant again after X number of kids(I like the number “one”) can either take a cut in benefits per child or give up the child...would fix the problem real fast.


29 posted on 09/14/2011 10:01:15 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
“That is a fixable problem also and it has nothing to do with illegals.”

I agree with that completely. My only comment to start all of this remains, why is one problem discussed incessantly, and the other one silent? And it is not just illegal immigration. Part of the way we "ended welfare" in 1996 was by hiding billions of dollars in welfare payments in Social Security and Medicare (since when did refusing to work become a "disability"?). Yet in all the discussions about social security going broke, not a mention is ever made about getting the welfare parasites out of it. It's almost like welfare has become the third rail, and no one will touch it. And if you'll check out the Heritage Foundation website, you will find that welfare is a MUCH bigger part of the financial problem than most realize.

30 posted on 09/14/2011 10:08:37 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name
We have 30 million illegals, that at the bottom line, probably provide more benefit than they do cost.

If you are going to throw out a statement that has been refuted by study after study, for instance the one reference in this story: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/02/immigration-costs-fair-amnesty-educations-costs-reform/ , you better back it up. Otherwise, everyone will just assume the rest of the items in your post have as much thought and basis in fact as the load of crap in this statement.

31 posted on 09/14/2011 10:11:47 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Back in the mid 80s I did plenty of rock picking and hay baling.”

I did the same in the 70’s. In fact it was one hot day in July, stacking hay in a barn, when I came to the realization that I really wanted to go to college.


32 posted on 09/14/2011 10:12:20 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: I cannot think of a name
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I dropped that off of 'reference' in the above post. I just found it on the floor by my chair.
33 posted on 09/14/2011 10:14:31 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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To: tnlibertarian
“If you are going to throw out a statement that has been refuted by study after study, for instance the one reference in this story:”

Can't provide “proof” other than 60+ years of living in wetback land, and to say I don't believe any of the studies mentioned are close to correct. The problem is, the studies are always based on the obvious and visible targets. They never get to the total effect.

I'm not about to get sued, but you would be surprised how many large companies here, and probably everywhere else benefit from illegals. They have all sorts of ways to camouflage it, but it still happens. A few of them even go so far as to brag how they only deal with companies that check the "record of all their employees." That just means that the company they are contracting with in turn subcontracts to another company that has all the wets. How much of that shows up in the price to the consumer and how much of it just helps the bottom line of the company I wouldn't know. But it is everywhere.

34 posted on 09/14/2011 10:28:53 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name; Unassuaged

The 800 pound gorilla is that illegals = cheap labor subsidized by tax payers while suppressing salaries. Then there are those illegals who just plain plop themselves on the dole.

Illegal aliens, anchor babies, brand new immigrants, and their extended families cost working tax payers hundreds of billions of dollars.

To the dems they = voters; to the repubs they = cheap exploitable labor.


35 posted on 09/14/2011 10:30:02 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: I cannot think of a name

A local farm has pick your own produce, they have created quite a business. A hay ride to the area and a teenager guides the correct way to choose and pick the vegetables. This farm has found a way to maximize profits without hiring illegals. Parking is only $1.00 and it makes up for the field not being planted that year. An email notifies us when certain things corn, raspberries, strawberries are ripe for picking.


36 posted on 09/14/2011 10:41:16 AM PDT by Dianer0839 (King Aragorn says, Hobbits bow to NO-ONE)
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To: dangerdoc

I was the skinny kid who was last out of the barn at baling time.


37 posted on 09/14/2011 10:41:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: algernonpj

“Illegal aliens, anchor babies, brand new immigrants, and their extended families cost working tax payers hundreds of billions of dollars.”

Correct, correct, correct.

But if you’d like to know where approximately a TRILLION dollars of our money is going this year, look at the report this link leads you to. If you don’t want to read the entire report, just turn to page 20 - and ask yourself - with all the discussions about illegals, and social security going broke, why is nothing said about this?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/thf_media/2009/pdf/sr0067.pdf


38 posted on 09/14/2011 10:43:50 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Dianer0839

Actually we go to a little farmers market every Saturday morning. The “farmers” are mainly retired folks doing it as much as a hobby as a business. We’ve been to one of their “farms” (a massive five acre spread).

The food at the market tends to cost about twice as much as at the grocery store, but my wife and I can afford it and we like meeting and talking to the people that actually grew what you are about to put in your mouth. I’d love to grow some of my own food, but in anticipation of retirement we sold our larger place and now live in a house on a postage stamp sized lot.


39 posted on 09/14/2011 10:55:01 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: montag813; Fledermaus; fieldmarshaldj

boy he got that right

but here in Nashville, most constructions projects would stop..lol..the new Convention center here would be a ghost town

at least for a while and the cost likely go up

I could deal with it...less democrats on their rolls if you expel illegals...a lot less


40 posted on 09/14/2011 10:58:43 AM PDT by wardaddy (, Dick Cheney ....get his book...he should have been President)
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To: I cannot think of a name
Can't provide “proof” other than 60+ years of living in wetback land, and to say I don't believe any of the studies mentioned are close to correct.

Exactly what I thought. Besides, you are looking at one side of it: how they benefit business. You are ignoring, or at least discounting (as the studies don't) the drain on social services, emergency rooms, schools, justice systems, insurance services, etc.

41 posted on 09/14/2011 11:07:46 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

I’m willing to pay 10 percent more for lettuce if it saves our nation.


42 posted on 09/14/2011 12:51:21 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: I cannot think of a name
Similar story in the DC area, $16-20/hr for lead and asbestos removal type work. There are almost no non-immigrents willing to take the test (in English) to make this money. A lot of “born on third, thought they hit a triple” entitled natives waiting for a executive (do-nothing) or a least union job where they can quickly get disability.
43 posted on 09/14/2011 1:43:24 PM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Jemian

Read a piece on him in the paper this morning. He seemed to be all worked up about illegal aliens and the continued pitch for amnesty.

He also had plenty to say about the $450 billion “stimulus” that will be blown through within a few months and those who were hired would be out of a job as soon as the “stimulus” is spent.

I’m the first one to admit that I don’t like or trust Brooks, BUT I have to agree with most everything he said in the newspaper article.

Oh, this was the Decatur Daily, so you know the paper is heartbroken. Reporting Brooks conservative position on the questions asked must have been really devestating.


44 posted on 09/15/2011 2:48:30 PM PDT by jtill (Preach the gospel always. If necessary, use words.)
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