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To: Unassuaged
“I am not sure there are enough Americians left willing to work jobs now held by immigrants. I guess this would be one way to find out!”

Shhhh - stop bringing up the 800 pound gorilla sitting right in the middle of the room that nobody wants to talk about. It feels much better just to talk about “kicking them out” and “building a fence” - no need to discuss the problem right in our own backyard.

My wife used to work for a major retailer. In the early 2000’s the Bush administration put a rule into welfare (since rescinded by zero) that everyone had to work some small amount (it was some odd number, something like 108 hours every two years).

The company my wife worked for got federal money to help hire the “hardcore unemployed.” This was $8 an hour, to work in an air conditioned store with carpeted floors, and simply put clothing back into the racks in the correct size order. They could never attract more than about 60% of the amount of people they needed, and most of the ones that showed up left after a couple of days.

But I'm certain those same folks will be HAPPY to stand in a hot dusty field and pick sugar beets for $4 and hour.

6 posted on 09/14/2011 8:44:28 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name

But I’m certain those same folks will be HAPPY to stand in a hot dusty field and pick sugar beets for $4 and hour.


Consider that those wages aren’t JUSTIFIED by the presence of illegals, they’re CAUSED by the presence of illegals.


9 posted on 09/14/2011 8:50:55 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: I cannot think of a name

The 800 pound gorilla in the room is the number of illegitimate democrat seats in congress that are created by the mere presence of some 30 million illegals. (You do the math some 650,000 per congressional district)

Maybe in another ten years or so we’ll have the courage to acknowledge it. It’ll be too late but admitting it is something...I guess.


10 posted on 09/14/2011 8:53:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: I cannot think of a name
If I may politely point out - The first problem with the program at your wife's place of employment was the influx of federal dollars to generate fake jobs. OTOH, I suspect you are quite right about the lack of initial applicants for beet-picking jobs. However, if employers did not have access to people that will accept $4 per hour, what I can see is the invention/application of a beet-picking machine that would be far more efficient than day laborers.
12 posted on 09/14/2011 8:57:33 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

But I’m certain those same folks will be HAPPY to stand in a hot dusty field and pick sugar beets for $4 and hour.
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I’m certain you are severely nearsighted. There are probably 20 solutions to that problem that don’t involve illegal immigration. I can think of 3 without even trying.

as for your ridiculous clothing rack anecdote...walmart seems to have no problem keeping clothes on racks. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?


17 posted on 09/14/2011 9:05:16 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: I cannot think of a name; Unassuaged

The 800 pound gorilla is that illegals = cheap labor subsidized by tax payers while suppressing salaries. Then there are those illegals who just plain plop themselves on the dole.

Illegal aliens, anchor babies, brand new immigrants, and their extended families cost working tax payers hundreds of billions of dollars.

To the dems they = voters; to the repubs they = cheap exploitable labor.


35 posted on 09/14/2011 10:30:02 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: I cannot think of a name

A local farm has pick your own produce, they have created quite a business. A hay ride to the area and a teenager guides the correct way to choose and pick the vegetables. This farm has found a way to maximize profits without hiring illegals. Parking is only $1.00 and it makes up for the field not being planted that year. An email notifies us when certain things corn, raspberries, strawberries are ripe for picking.


36 posted on 09/14/2011 10:41:16 AM PDT by Dianer0839 (King Aragorn says, Hobbits bow to NO-ONE)
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To: I cannot think of a name
Similar story in the DC area, $16-20/hr for lead and asbestos removal type work. There are almost no non-immigrents willing to take the test (in English) to make this money. A lot of “born on third, thought they hit a triple” entitled natives waiting for a executive (do-nothing) or a least union job where they can quickly get disability.
43 posted on 09/14/2011 1:43:24 PM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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