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Americans don't deserve to keep all their money says Dem.
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Posted on 09/14/2011 11:42:46 AM PDT by mk2000

Schakowsky said that Americans don’t deserve to keep all of their money because we need taxes to support our society.

“I’ll put it this way. You don’t deserve to keep all of it and it’s not a question of deserving because what government is, is those things that we decide to do together. And there are many things that we decide to do together like have our national security. Like have police and fire. What about the people that work at the National Institute of Health who are looking for a cure for cancer,” Schakowsky said.

Schakowsky also says one reason the 2009 stimulus bill did not succeed was because it was not large enough.

Schakowsky also admitted there are questions about the Obama administration’s connection to the now bankrupt Solyndra solar panel company.

The administration approved nearly $528 million in federal loans to the company, before Solyndra filed for bankruptcy.

Schakowsky sits on the House Energy and Commerce Committee Investigations and Oversight Panel, which is holding hearings Wednesday into the matter. She said she and other Democrats want answers.

“You know, it certainly doesn’t sound good. The Democrats are not going to shrink from actually, you know, from any kind of full investigation of that. If there is a problem we’re certainly going to support the efforts to get to the bottom of this,” Schakowsky said.

Read the whole thing here. Jan Schakowsky is a perfect candidate to be “Turner-ized” in 2012

(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; economy; govtabuse; liberalfascism; liberals; obama; obamadepression; progressives; schakowsky; socialism; socialistdemocrats; solyndra; taxcheatparty; taxes; tyranny

1 posted on 09/14/2011 11:42:49 AM PDT by mk2000
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To: mk2000

Yeah, they need taxes to support the $3000 a month raise they just voted themselves!


2 posted on 09/14/2011 11:45:42 AM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE RINOs (BUSHS)!)
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To: mk2000

We have never kept all of our money unless you go back a few hundred years. It’s not because we don’t deserve to. It’s because we believe a certain amount of government is a good idea.


3 posted on 09/14/2011 11:47:32 AM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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where is that damn face-palm graphic when ya need it...??


4 posted on 09/14/2011 11:47:49 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: mk2000
Lately I've been hearing an awful lot of media people say that the rich "need to pay their fair share".

I'd like to know what a "fair share" is.
I'd like to know who determines that.
I'd like to know why one workers deserves to keep what he earns, and other worker "doesn't deserve" to keep that much.
I've seen the amount of tax revenue which is squeezed out of the top 5% of earners, and I've seen that 47% of the people pay no taxes. I'm not understanding how "fair" this is.

It's the art of picking Winners and losers. It's Favoritism. It's government as a way of rewarding friends and punishing enemies.

It's not American.

5 posted on 09/14/2011 11:49:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Paperdoll

“Yeah, they need taxes to support the $3000 a month raise they just voted themselves!”

That raise alone is nearly half my pension.


6 posted on 09/14/2011 11:49:37 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: mk2000

Asshat......


7 posted on 09/14/2011 11:51:23 AM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: ClearCase_guy

For some reason the people in this country elect human excrement like this “woman”. How does that saying go about never over estimate the intelligence.....


8 posted on 09/14/2011 11:52:14 AM PDT by mk2000
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To: mk2000

Bump


9 posted on 09/14/2011 11:52:32 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: mk2000
Schakowsky is just plain ignorant. Federal spending doubled in the last decade. We now have about 50% who pay no federal income tax. I pay plenty of tax. These looters are in it to buy votes and line their pockets.
10 posted on 09/14/2011 11:53:32 AM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: mk2000

This guy would be a real hit at the next TEA Party event.


11 posted on 09/14/2011 11:54:37 AM PDT by Recon Dad ("Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way..")
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To: mk2000

When you consider socialism, do not fool yourself about its nature. Remember, that there is no such dichotomy as ‘human rights’ versus ‘property rights.’ No human rights can exist without property rights. Since material goods are produced by the mind and effort of individual men, and are needed to sustain their lives, if the producer does not own the result of his effort, he does not own his life. To deny property rights means to turn men into property owned by the state. Whoever claims the ‘right’ to ‘redistribute’ the wealth produced by others is claiming the ‘right’ to treat human beings as chattel. - Ayn Rand”

FUBO
FUDP


12 posted on 09/14/2011 11:59:18 AM PDT by tumblindice (Governor Rick Perry: "No border fence")
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To: ClearCase_guy
They also need to define: rich

Their definition has changed again & again.

13 posted on 09/14/2011 11:59:22 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Recon Dad

I DON’T WANT MY HARD EARNED MONEY GOING TO MURDER BABIES (PLANNED PARENTS IN THE HOOD!)

I DON’T WANT MY HARD EARNED MONEY GOING TO SUPPORT PAKISTAN, PALISTINE, OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY WHO IS A TERRORIST LOVING COUNTRY!

I DON’T WANT MY HARD EARNED MONEY GOING TO into Gov’t Healthcare!


14 posted on 09/14/2011 12:00:50 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: Recon Dad

I DON’T WANT MY HARD EARNED MONEY GOING TO MURDER BABIES (PLANNED PARENTS IN THE HOOD!)

I DON’T WANT MY HARD EARNED MONEY GOING TO SUPPORT PAKISTAN, PALISTINE, OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY WHO IS A TERRORIST LOVING COUNTRY!

I DON’T WANT MY HARD EARNED MONEY GOING TO into Gov’t Healthcare!


15 posted on 09/14/2011 12:01:08 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: ClearCase_guy

Damn about time we support a bill that only taxes Democrats.


16 posted on 09/14/2011 12:09:06 PM PDT by ully2
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To: Paperdoll

think for a minute if we did away with income taxes and had only a user or sales tax. Taxes would be collected via business for goods sold.

This would be the fairest of taxes as those who spend the most would end up paying the most.

If I had a couply thousand more per month what would I do with it? Save it, tithe it and spend it. I bet the govt would take in more in taxes and of course our economy would thrive.


17 posted on 09/14/2011 12:10:35 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Stand up is hard if you're not funny.)
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To: mk2000
And there are many things that we decide to do together like have our national security. Like have police and fire.

When youre unemployed, the rest dont mean shit. Without a job, youre nothing.

18 posted on 09/14/2011 12:11:54 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: mk2000

The KEY MORAL QUESTION here is:

“It’s fine for people to believe THEY are their brother’s keeper and there’s plenty of people who DO take care of each other charitably in the USA, BUT DOES THE GOV’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE PEOPLE TO BE THEIR BROTHER’S KEEPER???”

I say no because that’s against the 13th Amendment (It’s INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE!):

AMENDMENT XIII

Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


19 posted on 09/14/2011 12:12:27 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: mk2000

No American taxpeyer should keep “all” of their money and I do not believe that anyone is arguing that they should. Even if we were able to restrain fedzilla back under it’s constitutional bounds, there would STILL be a certain level of government that needed to be paid for.

Flat or fair tax now.


20 posted on 09/14/2011 12:12:31 PM PDT by Grunthor (Perry, Cain, Santorum, Gingrich, Romney, Bachmann Pretty much in that order for now.)
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To: mk2000
Taxes are not supposed to support "the society".

The purpose of taxes is to fund the government. Federal taxes to fund the federal government. State taxes to support the state government. The people are supposed to support themselves. Businesses are supposed to support themselves. Got it?

21 posted on 09/14/2011 12:13:31 PM PDT by Rapscallion (The majority of democrats (50%+) pay no income taxes.)
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To: mk2000

Anyone with a job doesn’t deserve to keep their money.


22 posted on 09/14/2011 12:13:32 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: mk2000
What about the people that work at the National Institute of Health who are looking for a cure for cancer,” Schakowsky said.

Ummmmm.... they don't deserve to keep all THEIR money either??

23 posted on 09/14/2011 12:14:06 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Kodos!)
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To: mk2000

“Schakowsky also says one reason the 2009 stimulus bill did not succeed was because it was not large enough.”

Yes, and communism didn’t work because it was not done right.

Liberalism in a nutshell.


24 posted on 09/14/2011 12:23:57 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: Paperdoll

think for a minute if we did away with income taxes and had only a user or sales tax. Taxes would be collected via business for goods sold.

This would be the fairest of taxes as those who spend the most would end up paying the most.

If I had a couply thousand more per month what would I do with it? Save it, tithe it and spend it. I bet the govt would take in more in taxes and of course our economy would thrive.


25 posted on 09/14/2011 12:38:18 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Stand up is hard if you're not funny.)
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To: headstamp 2

Just checked to see which unfortunates this walking, talking POS is supposed to represent:

Chicago area

Democrat
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Why is anybody shocked?......


26 posted on 09/14/2011 12:39:25 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet ((493 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: nikos1121

Herman Cain’s new ad, calling the tax code a ‘version of slavery’ .

http://thehill.com/video/campaign/181495-cain-ad-tax-code-is-a-version-of-slavery-


27 posted on 09/14/2011 12:54:54 PM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
This piece of crap hardcore socialist/marxist/communist and her husband are a few of Chicago's finest, among a long line of communists in this city...just google communism and Chicago to see how far back it goes, with the black politicians leading the parade.
28 posted on 09/14/2011 12:57:30 PM PDT by itssme
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To: Paperdoll

Are you sure it isn’t 3000 per year?


29 posted on 09/14/2011 12:59:28 PM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: mk2000
"What about the people that work at the National Institute of Health who are looking for a cure for cancer,”

Hey Schakowsky, we were already given a person who had the cure for cancer ...

... But she was aborted in 1977.

30 posted on 09/14/2011 1:01:51 PM PDT by eCSMaster (Democrats: the Party of NO!)
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To: mk2000

Another communist be*tch.


31 posted on 09/14/2011 1:07:01 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Rabid democRATS and 0bama the dictator own it all now.)
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To: AlanGreenSpam
“It’s fine for people to believe THEY are their brother’s keeper and there’s plenty of people who DO take care of each other charitably in the USA, BUT DOES THE GOV’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE PEOPLE TO BE THEIR BROTHER’S KEEPER???”

My question is, where are all those Dems who PREACH "separation of church and state?" I mean, you cannot say we cannot pray in the public because of "separation of church and state" and then espouse that the GOVERNMENT enforce Christian teachings like charity and our "brother's keeper!"
32 posted on 09/14/2011 1:12:14 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: ExTxMarine

Well, yes, but I used the “brother’s keeper” term loosely, not focusing on the Christian origins of that phrase.

The Greedy Liberals know they are not preaching a Christian idea because they have a Communist interpretation of “brother’s keeper.”


33 posted on 09/14/2011 1:24:21 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: Paperdoll

No pay raise for Congress in 2011

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/97971-obama-signs-law-blocking-congress-pay-raise

Did they get a raise this year anyway?


34 posted on 09/14/2011 1:24:55 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: AlanGreenSpam
BUT DOES THE GOV’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO FORCE PEOPLE TO BE THEIR BROTHER’S KEEPER???”

From the first legal treatise written after Constitutional Ratification:

In the United States of America the people have retained the sovereignty in their own hands: they have in each state distributed the government, or administrative authority of the state, into two distinct branches, internal, and external; the former of these, they have confided, with some few exceptions, to the state government; the latter to the federal government.

Since the union of the sovereignty with the government, constitutes a state of absolute power, or tyranny, over the people, every attempt to effect such an union is treason against the sovereignty, in the actors; and every extension of the administrative authority beyond its just constitutional limits, is absolutely an act of usurpation in the government, of that sovereignty, which the people have reserved to themselves.
Preliminary Remarks, St. George Tucker, View of the Constitution

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The Constitution was written for the federal government, NOT the States or the People.

Having the federal government help itself to the wages of our labor, ramrod over all the States and micro-manage every minute detail of everyone's life IS Constitutional treason.

35 posted on 09/14/2011 1:41:19 PM PDT by MamaTexan (If it works in theory but not in practice, then it's not a theory...... but a failure)
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To: mk2000

Wait...is this the same woman whose husband had some ... Erm... Problems with bank fraud and tax evasion???


36 posted on 09/14/2011 3:46:31 PM PDT by Cailleach
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To: Puppage
HERE'S A TEACHER'S UNION RALLY. NOTICE THE SIGN. THEY >>ARE<< WITHIN THE TOP 5% OF INCOME EARNERS (120k OR MORE). MORONS. THEY'RE ALSO INTO BLATANT TAX EVASION - THEY GET HEALTH CARE BENEFITS PAID AS 'PRETAX' DOLLARS. WHY DON'T THEY STOP BEING SO 'GREEDY' - PAY MORE TAXES... INSTEAD OF "RIPPING" EVERYBODY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR FOR THEIR INCOMES.
37 posted on 09/14/2011 4:55:11 PM PDT by 4Liberty (88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
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To: mk2000

Time to get rid of this MFer


38 posted on 09/14/2011 5:38:28 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: MamaTexan

Good post, thanks!


39 posted on 09/14/2011 9:11:59 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: mk2000

Funny how when you corner a liberal about taxes being too high, the standard response is, “Oh, I guess you don’t like having roads or policemen or firemen”


40 posted on 09/15/2011 6:06:44 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Obama couldn't run a lemonade stand. Let him eat peas!)
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