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3 more murders linked to Gunwalker
CBS ^ | September 14, 2011 4:57 PM | By Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 09/14/2011 6:05:46 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear

Weapons linked to ATF's controversial "Fast and Furious" operation have been tied to at least eight violent crimes in Mexico including three murders, four kidnappings and an attempted homicide.

According to a letter from U.S. Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich to Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), the disclosed incidents may be only a partial list of violent crimes linked to Fast and Furious weapons because "ATF has not conducted a comprehensive independent investigation."

When added to the guns found at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in the U.S., the newly-revealed murders in Mexico bring the total number of deaths linked to Fast and Furious to four.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 09/14/2011 6:05:52 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

You mean deaths in the USA.

I guess CBS doesn’t care about the THOUSANDS of brown Mexicans murdered using these guns.

I will REMEMBER that.


2 posted on 09/14/2011 6:09:15 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Is the dam finally breaking on Obama and all his crooked little plots? CBS was the first station to break this story and now they appear to be getting interested in it again.

ABC ran the Solyndra/White House story at the top of their evening news and I was stunned at how bad the story made the Administration look. If the two networks start competing by trying to run negative stories, it could get pretty interesting.

The day NBC jumps in, we’ll know it’s all over for Bambi!


3 posted on 09/14/2011 6:13:10 PM PDT by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Hussein and holder need to be tried for murder—or are they above the law on that too?


4 posted on 09/14/2011 6:13:24 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: VikingMom

I think CBS just covers gunwalker on CBS.com. Not on TV... but I could be wrong about that.


5 posted on 09/14/2011 6:14:49 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

You have to give the MSM credit, they’ve really done an excellent job keeping a lid on this thing. How many more damning revelations like this one until they cannot contain it any longer?


6 posted on 09/14/2011 6:15:00 PM PDT by kevao
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To: VikingMom

The ny slimes had a review of the Palin bashing book and they savaged the writer and his lies... stinging rebuke... weird times. Maybe even the leftardians are growing weary of him?

LLS


7 posted on 09/14/2011 6:17:52 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Is the person that you support a Crony Capitalist... A.K.A. CRAPITALIST?)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Please properly fill out all the fields when posting, especially to Breaking News.


8 posted on 09/14/2011 6:18:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Minus_The_Bear

I was amazed the MSM reports on this scandal at all, but even now the average American STILL knows more about Joe The Plumber than he knows about Fast & Furious.

It’s amazing.


9 posted on 09/14/2011 6:19:36 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Minus_The_Bear

When is Holder going to be charged with murder?


10 posted on 09/14/2011 6:29:22 PM PDT by svcw ( http://www.internetlastpage.com)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Bad week for Obama. Time for another vacation?


11 posted on 09/14/2011 6:29:46 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Minus_The_Bear

The MSM seems to be turning on Zero. I just saw ABC’s Brian Ross on BOR give an honest report on the Solyndra scandal. He was stunned to learn of the restructure of the loan that put taxpayers behind investors that donated big to Obama. BOR was taking up Obama’s side more so than Ross.


12 posted on 09/14/2011 6:30:42 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Nachum; 444Flyer; MestaMachine

bump n ping


13 posted on 09/14/2011 6:32:24 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Cash for clunkers, subsidies - none has worked. The left =one-trick pony on the economy $pend)
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14 posted on 09/14/2011 6:32:24 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: VikingMom

I hope someone in the government has the balls to look into this crap and it should be named “Fast and Furious Legal Action”. It should be done as fast as possible. Don’t give them time to regroup. Hit them hard and fast.


15 posted on 09/14/2011 6:32:50 PM PDT by RC2
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Dubya! Look at the times on our posts! LOL


16 posted on 09/14/2011 6:34:51 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: Joe Brower

ping

3 more murders pinned to the zero.


17 posted on 09/14/2011 6:36:01 PM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: MestaMachine

LOL. If only the MSM would report in the manner we post LOL


18 posted on 09/14/2011 6:47:24 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Cash for clunkers, subsidies - none has worked. The left =one-trick pony on the economy $pend)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ping!


19 posted on 09/14/2011 6:48:24 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil
Where's that special prosecutor when we need him/her?
20 posted on 09/14/2011 6:52:03 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Google this: Symptoms of cocaine use.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Minus_The_Bear.


21 posted on 09/14/2011 6:56:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: VikingMom

I wouldn’t be surprised if someday soon down the road we find the MSM broadsiding Obama worse than they did, and do Palin.

I have a hunch the MSM, a fickle lot of Leftists are being encouraged to do so by certain behind the scenes players. The lot of players that got Obama where he is I believe are ready for some hope and change.

I believe Hillary is running around behind the scenes trying to convince some of those players to “Look at me, look at me!”


22 posted on 09/14/2011 7:16:14 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Ornithologists tag birds to study where they are flying to. Scientists can get some useful information from that, and nobody gets killed in the process.

However what kind of information those guys were even hoping to get from selling weapons to criminals? Anyone with an intellect at or above an average hare can tell that those weapons will end up at crime scenes, since that's what they are bought for.

Is there anything of value to be learned from the knowledge that those weapons are trafficked to various states of the USA and Mexico? I doubt that. Goods naturally move from places where they are available to places where they are needed.

Is there anyone in particular who could be tied to a purchase and a consequent crime? I doubt that too. The weapon was most likely in many hands before it reached the soldiers of cartels, and nothing is known about those intermediaries (if they are even alive by now.)

So can the Justice dept. explain, in detail, what was that they were doing, what were they expecting to happen, and what happened in actuality. If they expected murders done with those weapons then they are guilty of murder as facilitators. If they haven't expected murders then they are incompetent and must be fired.

But I guess it's a pointless endeavor to try to find someone competent in that gang. Competence was bred out over decades of bureaucratic games, in an environment where anyone even minimally smart had to quit in disgust long time ago.

23 posted on 09/14/2011 7:21:16 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Poor reporting by CBS. “Project Gunrunner” was started in 2005. They should use the correct term, “Fast and Furious.”


24 posted on 09/14/2011 7:28:21 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

They are two different programs.


25 posted on 09/14/2011 7:32:18 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: freeangel

IN MEXICO.


26 posted on 09/14/2011 7:37:41 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: Minus_The_Bear

We need a Special Prosecutor, Independent Counsel,, something.. this smells to high heaven

Targets, The BATF, DoJ, WH


27 posted on 09/14/2011 7:45:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Yes, so why does the title say “Gunwalker?”


28 posted on 09/14/2011 8:03:00 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Petruchio
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29 posted on 09/14/2011 8:11:01 PM PDT by mdel747
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To: NormsRevenge

30 posted on 09/14/2011 8:23:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“Gunwalker” was the term coined by Dave Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh, a play on “Gunrunner,” since the ATF was “walking” the guns over the border as they put it. The reporter has picked up the useage.


31 posted on 09/14/2011 8:25:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“Gunwalker” was the term coined by Dave Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh, a play on “Gunrunner,” since the ATF was “walking” the guns over the border as they put it. The reporter has picked up the useage.


32 posted on 09/14/2011 8:26:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the explanation. I confess that I was thinking of “Gunrunner” (2005). Still, I think this mix of the correct name (F&F) with the confusing “Gunwalker” with no explanation is a weird way to write an article that pretends to be factual.


33 posted on 09/14/2011 8:36:16 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
What's even worse is that the idiot congresscritters (GOP) that do the questioning at the hearings bandy about the terms Gunrunner, Gunwalker and F&F interchangably, giving the subjects of their questions room to wiggle and obfuscate short of purgery.....but hey, they sound like they know what they're talking about.
34 posted on 09/14/2011 9:56:46 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Roccus

Yep, thanks. Conservatives should use exact terms, not try to be clever by using cute but confusing terms. If they even know the difference, that is.


35 posted on 09/14/2011 10:48:30 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Guns don’t kill people. People kill people, especially when they’re criminals, and sometimes with guns provided by the ATF.


36 posted on 09/14/2011 11:49:07 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Barring a miracle, he has no chance in ‘12. Throw him under the bus and give Hillary a chance to save the party. The first black president is going to be the first president blatantly thrown under the bus by all the people who put him there.


37 posted on 09/15/2011 1:55:15 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Minus_The_Bear
I think what people need to realize is that this whole “fast and furious” operation was clearly meant to set the pretext for the Obama administration to sign on to the UN Treaty on Small Arms, which by its design (if it was ratified by the US), would eviscerate the second amendment. US citizens would, under this treaty, become subject to UN “gun control” policies.

That's how Barry intends to attack our gun rights. He's smart enough to understand that sponsoring a sweeping anti-gun bill in Congress is political suicide.

38 posted on 09/15/2011 3:52:35 AM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: Constitutional Patriot

A fact not lost on THIS reader. Anyne who remebers heaing the statements coming out of the State depatment and others a few years ago pushing for automatic weapons ban because ‘these guns are findig their way to Mexican gangs’ can see it VERY clearly.


39 posted on 09/15/2011 4:22:15 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: kevao

Even if a cartel member committed an act of murder in the WH using one of these guns, it would not make the headlines...

And in the interest in the common civility, this issue will not be a campaign topic in any debate or discussion anywhere. anytime...

How’s that to brighten yer day??? ;-)


40 posted on 09/15/2011 4:51:02 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Constitutional Patriot
I think what people need to realize is that this whole “fast and furious” operation was clearly meant to set the pretext for the Obama administration to sign on to the UN Treaty on Small Arms, which by its design (if it was ratified by the US), would eviscerate the second amendment. US citizens would, under this treaty, become subject to UN “gun control” policies.

Yep. They were going to blame it on American gun sales. No one was suppose to know the dealers were forced to sell by the ATF.
The same with the housing crash. Banks were forced - under the democrats Community Reinvestment Act - to give bad loans to people who couldn't afford pay them, and then the democrats successfully blamed the banks for the market crash. It was all a left wing set up to get control over banking.

The left creates a crises, and then comes in as the savior to save us all from the very crises they created. For example - they wanted a health care take over, so they sent out the trial lawyers. Presto! It got so expensive and abused - they got their Obomacare. They blamed it on the Insurance companies.

41 posted on 09/15/2011 5:39:57 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

How many more? Makes you wonder what the real number is.


42 posted on 09/15/2011 8:59:36 AM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: concerned about politics

Guns don’t kill people. BATF kills people!!


43 posted on 09/15/2011 9:08:25 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: SueRae; Constitutional Patriot

Remember the “Iron river of guns flowing into Mexico”???
Hillary and others spouting it a few years ago, long before their little false flag Black ops exploded in their faces?

They ALWAYS tell us what they’re going to do, if we’re paying attention.

But now we’ve got dead American LEOs as a result of their criminal actions now - and Holder and Co are desperate to keep it covered up.


44 posted on 09/15/2011 9:20:43 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Any word yet about the origin of the AK-47 that Mexican national used to murder 3 National Guardsmen in Carson City a week or so ago?

The crime has entirely disappeared from the news once the feds took over the investigation.

45 posted on 09/15/2011 12:48:31 PM PDT by Gritty (President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these SOBs out!-J Hoffa)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Try them and then hang them!
46 posted on 09/15/2011 3:57:21 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Minus_The_Bear; Travis McGee
3 more murders linked to Gunwalker

Sort of piling up, arent they?


47 posted on 09/15/2011 4:30:01 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: qaz123
Barring a miracle, he has no chance in ‘12.

Wait until he collects the sympathy vote after his wife and kids are killed in a tragic airplane crash on another vacation trip, or by well-aimed shots from a crazed gunman working alone despite his ties to a government drug treatment program.

Why do you think we had all the King/JFK/RFK comparisons so soon after Obama's inaugeration? The script for his tragic circumstances was written long ago, by those who have been pulling his strings from the beginning.

48 posted on 09/15/2011 4:36:25 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: archy

Man;

that’s cold.


49 posted on 09/15/2011 6:15:38 PM PDT by Segovia
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Geez this is so bad, I hope Issa and company get to the bottom of this.

It's just a tragedy someone ordered this. I love the Mexican people, love the USA, hate drugs, cartels and gangs so this,THIS alleged political 2nd amendment BS attack is so criminal that if the government redacts and refuses to come clean we should start arresting these scum bags for obstruction at least( who ever is redacting) and pre meditated murder or more! Pisses me off( sorry but a little curse word here I believe is warranted).

50 posted on 09/16/2011 7:36:47 AM PDT by Karliner ("If we were real domestic terrorists, shoot, Obama would want to pal around with us, wouldn't he?")
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