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Assigning a Jobs Bill as Homework [ When will the Democrats file it? ]
nytimes.com ^ | Sept 14 2011 | Helen Cooper

Posted on 09/14/2011 6:39:07 PM PDT by NoLibZone

RALEIGH — President Obama turned up the rhetorical heat in his push for his jobs bill on Wednesday, declaring that the country is facing a “national emergency” that demands Congressional action on his $447 billion economic package.

Plunging into his third battleground state in five days, Mr. Obama told highly charged students in a packed basketball arena at North Carolina State University that he was sick of the partisanship that has engulfed Washington during the last three years. He accused lawmakers of deliberately dragging their feet on his economic plan, not because they don’t think it will help, but because they do not want to give him a political win.

“Give me a win?” Mr. Obama said, his voice rising as the crowd started cheering. “Give me a break. That’s exactly why folks are fed up with Washington.”

Even as initial polls suggest that only half of Americans support his jobs proposal, Mr. Obama appears convinced of his ability to sell it to the public, and he urged his audience to sell it in turn to their Congressional representatives.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jobsbill; obamabill

1 posted on 09/14/2011 6:39:12 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Anyone have the Democrat bill or house number for the jobs bill ?


2 posted on 09/14/2011 6:40:53 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: NoLibZone

Funny how Obama omits the little detail that his Party, the Democrats, had super majorities in BOTH Houses right up until 8 short months ago. Ah, is that the partisanship he’s refering to?

Also, aren’t people getting tired of Obama telling the country that unless you pass my bill we’ll all die? He did this with the first stimulus. He did this with Obamacare, and now he’s doing it again with Son of Stimulus.

Get lost you lame duck.


3 posted on 09/14/2011 6:45:06 PM PDT by Obadiah (Okay, so what's the speed of dark?)
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To: NoLibZone
Anyone have the Democrat bill or house number for the jobs bill ?

It appears the House bill is HR 2911


4 posted on 09/14/2011 6:51:59 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Obadiah; All
Funny how Obama omits the little detail that his Party, the Democrats, had super majorities in BOTH Houses right up until 8 short months ago.

Democrat and Republican politicians forget that too when discussing "the Bush deficits."

There's that little forgotten fact that the dems held the House and Senate when the deficits started rising dramatically.

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5 posted on 09/14/2011 6:57:11 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Obadiah
Funny how Obama omits the little detail that his Party, the Democrats, had super majorities in BOTH Houses right up until 8 short months ago. Ah, is that the partisanship he’s referring to?

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6 posted on 09/14/2011 7:11:09 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Cobra64

So there have never been a democrat that introduced Obama’s bill.

That’s telling.


7 posted on 09/14/2011 7:18:38 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: NoLibZone; All
"Anyone have the Democrat bill or house number for the jobs bill ?"

As far as I can tell nothing has happened in the House by the end of business yesterday (13th). Harry Reid did file the bill (S.1549)on the 13th without co-sponsors. The bill is awaiting first reading in the Senate. I thought appropriations bills had to originate in the House, but oh well.

Here's the current status on S.1549.

Looks like the Rats are in no big hurry at all to move this poison turkey through the process. I guess they hope if they stall long enough they can quietly bury it. Clearly the Rats know what NY-9 means, namely they're toast. They've already consumed way too much of Dr. Zero's magic Kool-Aid and have no stomach for more. Sure took the dumb asses long enough to figure out the main ingredient in Dr. Zero's magic Kool-Aid: Democrat Doom.

8 posted on 09/14/2011 7:23:49 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Cobra64

No thst not it.

I cant see it sbeen asigned a nbr yet

GOP rep. introduces alternative American Jobs Act

Texas GOP Rep. Louis Gohmert officially introduced the American Jobs Act of 2011 on Wednesday afternoon.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/181601-gop-rep-introduces-alternative-american-jobs-act?page=2#comments

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.php

Not in yet!


9 posted on 09/14/2011 7:28:56 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: catnipman

Thank you .

It’s in the Senate.

I was looking in the House.


10 posted on 09/14/2011 7:32:33 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: Cobra64

that graph states the spending issue clearly.

how can anyone say the financial crisis isn’t the fault of the dems?


11 posted on 09/14/2011 8:05:37 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: catnipman
Yes you are correct.

Is there a house bill that's been introduced?

The Gohmert one is different.

"According to the United States Constitution (Article I, Section 7, clause 1), all bills relating to revenue, generally tax bills, must originate in the House of Representatives, consistent with the Westminster system requiring all money bills to originate in the lower house which is why the appropriations bills that are enacted begin with "H.R.", indicating a bill that originated in the House. The Constitution also states that the "Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills," so in practice, the Senate and House each drafts and considers its own bill. The Senate then "cuts-and-pastes", substituting the language of its bill of a particular appropriations bill for the language of House bill, then agrees to the bill as amended."

12 posted on 09/14/2011 8:26:00 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: sten
< i>that graph states the spending issue clearly. how can anyone say the financial crisis isn’t the fault of the dems?

I agree. I created the graph from Federal government statistics and noted significant milestones.

13 posted on 09/14/2011 9:14:13 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: NoLibZone

“Is there a house bill that’s been introduced? “

No House bill introduced yet. I wonder if it will ever be introduced. I wonder if Boehner would just refuse to bring any such 0bama bill up for a vote even if a Rat introduced it. I wonder if the only way the Rats can make political hay is to do it in the Senate where they can at least schedule a vote. I wonder if the whole thing’s going to crash and burn in the Senate anyway as a whole bunch or Rat Senators have already come out opposing several different significant portions of the bill. There’s true panic in RatLand right now, so I suspect the whole thing IS going to crash and burn, and it will have nothing to do with Pub opposition.


14 posted on 09/14/2011 9:17:12 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Cobra64

How come served for eight years but is only responsible for seven budget years?


15 posted on 09/14/2011 9:50:48 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Cobra64

How come Bush served for eight years but is only responsible for seven budget years?


16 posted on 09/14/2011 9:51:46 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: sten

Because the Republicans were in charge of the House, Senate and Presidency up to the height of the housing bubble in 2007.


17 posted on 09/14/2011 9:54:04 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Cobra64

“I created the graph from Federal government statistics and noted significant milestones.”

Really? What statistics? Can you give references?

I’d like to find one that says he was president for only seven years like your graph shows. I had never heard that before. /s


18 posted on 09/14/2011 9:57:04 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Graph depicts 8 years


19 posted on 09/15/2011 2:52:48 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Are you drunk or a troll? The numbers are public domain. Get off your fanny and find them yourself.


20 posted on 09/15/2011 2:55:55 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: NoLibZone

It sure is. I’m surprised it is not getting more play. When not a single House rat from a safe district is willing to give his opponent next year a club with which to beat him, Hussein is in real trouble.


21 posted on 09/15/2011 4:03:29 AM PDT by Jacquerie (More Central Planning is not the solution to the failures of Central Planning.)
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To: Cobra64

No it doesn’t. That’s plain to see. It says he was responsible for the budgets from 2001 to 2008.


22 posted on 09/15/2011 4:12:53 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Cobra64
Well, funny you should ask. I did look up the numbers and produce a graph. I fully referenced it and Republican Apologists on FR don't like it. Conservatives love it because it provides clarity and the authority of detail. Republican Apologists try to imitate it but they can't because when the same level of detail is provided, it doesn't say what they want it to say, i.e. Republicans are without fault.
Here ya go:
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FR thread on this graph.

23 posted on 09/15/2011 4:19:51 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
No it doesn’t. That’s plain to see. It says he was responsible for the budgets from 2001 to 2008.

Maybe you are drunk

Let's count shall we? You won't even have to take of your shoes for this one:
1) 2001
2) 2002
3) 2003
4) 2004
5) 2005
6) 2006
7) 2007
8) 2008

What'd you get? I got eight.

24 posted on 09/15/2011 4:23:18 AM PDT by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: whd23

Who signed the 2001 budget into law, Clinton or Bush?


25 posted on 09/15/2011 8:46:09 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
Uh uh! You can't change your argument as to WHICH years are the Bush years. You were complaining that only seven years were labeled as the Bush years.

How come Bush served for eight years but is only responsible for seven budget years?

Regardless of whether the correct years are labeled, there are eight years labeled.

26 posted on 09/15/2011 9:22:36 AM PDT by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: whd23

Yeah, I know. I needed you to admit that you were counting 2001 as a Bush year and were not counting 2009.

So who signed the budget for 2001, Bush or Clinton?

Who caused the $650B revenue loss in 2009, Bush or Obama?

Who asked for TARP and signed it into law in 2008, Bush or Obama?

Who signed a continuing resolution (with discretionary spending increases) for the first five months of 2009, Bush or Obama?

So what were these references you were talking about? I gave mine. Fair is fair so you should give yours, right?


27 posted on 09/15/2011 9:30:07 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi; Cobra64
You're confusing me with Cobra64 who posted the chart you were commenting on.

I simply jumped in to point out that you were counting wrong.

28 posted on 09/15/2011 9:42:54 AM PDT by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: whd23

Foiled by my own inattentiveness!


29 posted on 09/15/2011 3:29:01 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: NoLibZone; catnipman
Here are some durable links. The first one has the text, the second one is a summary page, with links to all sorts of related information.

Congressional Record - 112th Congress - Page S5539 [Sept 13, 2011]
S.1549 - American Jobs Act of 2011

30 posted on 09/15/2011 3:33:40 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: NoLibZone
-- So there have never been a democrat that introduced Obama's bill. --

Even Reid didn't personally "sponsor" it. He's named as the sponsor, followed by the notation "(by request)". There are no co-sponsors.

31 posted on 09/15/2011 3:36:03 PM PDT by Cboldt
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