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Bachmann’s Former Chief Of Staff: Her False Statements Are The Result Of Her ‘Impulsive Nature’
MEDIAITE ^ | 09/15/2011 | Alex Alvarez

Posted on 09/15/2011 6:50:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: JimRed
So, someone says something to her, she repeats it, it’s incorrect, so she’s a liar?

At the very least she's extremely irresponsible considering the seriousness of the accusation. If she didn't know the woman's comment was preposterous, then she's ignorant. If she knew the woman's comment was preposterous, then she's a liar.

All scenarios are bad for her.

41 posted on 09/15/2011 10:32:15 AM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: Boogieman

Keep on lappin’


42 posted on 09/15/2011 10:33:40 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Whatever man, attacking Anderson Cooper may be fun, but it won’t make the story go away.


43 posted on 09/15/2011 10:44:30 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Did you feel the same way when the media attacked Reagan as a b actor? bush for his dwi? Quayle for his draft deferment? Palin for her lack of geopolitical acumen? It was all true.

at least I've learned to recognize the tactic.

44 posted on 09/15/2011 10:57:31 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

The difference between the examples you cite and this, is that those examples were, even though true, pretty immaterial to whether those candidates could perform in their job. This issue clearly would be material.


45 posted on 09/15/2011 12:18:20 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: GunRunner

Yep, stuck between being viewed as ignorant or inaccurate is not the place you want to be as a candidate. Worse, in my personal opinion, is that no matter which one is true, she was uncritical in either scenario, and that is exactly the kind of thinking that I don’t want in a leader.


46 posted on 09/15/2011 12:24:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
It's important to you because it suits your agenda.

whether or not she knows elvis's birthplace or her opinion of government mandated vaccinations are not important to me in view of her position on the roll of government vs the other big government friendly front runners.

Priorities I guess.

47 posted on 09/15/2011 12:29:28 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Polybius

Put down the bong.

Right NOW our choices are practical conservatives (Perry and Cain), RINOs (Mutt and JonBoy), impulsive conservative (Bachmann), Moonbeam Martian and a couple of wannabes. Then we have the holdout COY conservative.

Bachmann’s impulsiveness is not as a conservative, its IMPULSIVE as in “I didn’t know that before I opened my mouth” or WORSE. Anyone looking at the race realistically, knows Bachmann is a long shot, a very long shot that is getting longer. With her getting impusively cranked up about Gardisil OPT-IN/OPT-OUT, looks like she is angling for Mutt’s VP.


48 posted on 09/15/2011 12:30:37 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" and ronpaulnutz are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: skeeter

If by “my agenda” you mean getting a Republican candidate who gets their facts straight before they get in front of a microphone, then guilty as charged. Credibility matters to most voters, I think.

Bachmann could be the purest Conservative in the race, but if she can’t sell herself as a candidate, I’ll take a pass. Any salesman will tell you, you need at least the appearance of credibility if you are going to be successful.


49 posted on 09/15/2011 2:17:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Yeah, I've heard the same basic argument over & over - with different particulars... not smart enough, handsome enough, experienced enough etc etc.

And the 'common sense' candidate gets nominated/elected, and the country keep sliding further into crapper.

But go ahead & let the media dictate who's worthy of your vote.

50 posted on 09/15/2011 2:37:39 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

“But go ahead & let the media dictate who’s worthy of your vote.”

Where the hell do you get that from? Just because I don’t think Bachmann has a snowball’s chance in hell means I am some media-following zombie?

I doubt that attitude is going to win many people over to your point of view. “Think like me or you’re brainwashed!”.... not a good campaign strategy.


51 posted on 09/15/2011 3:46:50 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
'Zombie' might be pushing it a little far.

Bachmann is 'no longer credible' in the same way Palin isn't credible, in the same way Reagan wasn't credible (at least until just before he won in a landslide). Because that is the establishment narrative.

She is not dishonest, she isn't stupid. By her words (aside from a few mis-statments among thousands of words spoken) and deeds as a congresswoman she is deserving of serious consideration.

Except for the opinions of certain pundits and reporters, whos motives are certainly suspect, you have no basis for asserting that she is anything other than a capable, principled constitutionally grounded candidate.

IMO I thought thats what we conservatives wanted.

52 posted on 09/15/2011 4:04:27 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Genoa
Flaming sexism.

How? She said something inflammatory that has no visible basis in the truth. How does pointing that out equate to sexism?

53 posted on 09/15/2011 4:17:42 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative
In May 2007, the public interest group Judicial Watch released documents obtained from the FDA, under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act, detailing 1,637 reports of adverse reactions to Gardasil. Three deaths were related to the vaccine.

One physician's assistant reported that a female patient "died of a blood clot three hours after getting the Gardasil vaccine." Two other reports, on girls 12 and 19, reported deaths relating to heart problems and/or blood clotting.

Of the 1,637 adverse reactions to Gardasil reported to the FDA since the drug was on the market, there were 371 serious reactions. Of the 42 women who received the vaccine while pregnant, 18 experienced side effects ranging from spontaneous abortion to fetal abnormalities.

54 posted on 09/15/2011 4:26:01 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
Those are sad, but correlation is not causation. Is there any evidence that Gardasil was the cause? I read that most of the women who had clotting problems had other risk factors (on birth control pills, smoking, etc). Maybe there should be warnings about taking the shot if you are on birth control.

However, 1367 adverse reactions out of million of doses given is a really small percentage. You would get a higher negative reaction rate from aspirin, and much higher from penicillin.

55 posted on 09/15/2011 4:35:33 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative

You said something about ‘no basis in truth’?


56 posted on 09/15/2011 4:36:25 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
You said something about ‘no basis in truth’?

Yes I did. Nothing you posted provides a basis to support her claim about this woman's daughter. Nothing you posted even supports a claim that Gardasil was responsible for the events you listed - it might infer a correlation, but does not provide evidence to support that inference. Without more evidence, she was irresponsible to make an unsubstantiated claim. But regardless, I still don't see how this has anything to do with sexism.

57 posted on 09/15/2011 4:40:21 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative

If you do not believe that what I posted supported Bachmann’s claim then there’s really no point in continuing. Your mind is obviously made up.


58 posted on 09/15/2011 4:42:56 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: CA Conservative
BTW Gardasil was approved in the middle of 2006. The FDA figures represent a year, more or less, of history with the drug.

Enough reason to cause concern, I would think.

59 posted on 09/15/2011 4:54:13 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
BTW Gardasil was approved in the middle of 2006. The FDA figures represent a year, more or less, of history with the drug.

Enough reason to cause concern, I would think.

It has been in wide use for 5 years now, with millions of doses given - if the kind of adverse reactions you posted were common, it should be easy to find thousands and thousands of examples by now, wouldn't you think?

60 posted on 09/15/2011 5:03:38 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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