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Exposed: Ron Paulís Foreign Policy Ignorance and Naivety
Pajamas Media ^ | 9-15-2011 | Raymond Ibrihim

Posted on 09/15/2011 10:03:56 AM PDT by smoothsailing

Exposed: Ron Paul’s Foreign Policy Ignorance and Naivety

Did it never occur to the congressman that al-Qaeda could be, um, lying when he regurgitates their talking points?

September 15, 2011

by Raymond Ibrahim

Among other qualities, a good presidential candidate must be knowledgeable and able to think outside the box; equally important, he must not be naive or gullible — certainly not swallow everything the enemy says hook, line, and sinker.

During the recent Republican candidate debate, Congressman Ron Paul exhibited his ignorance and gullibility when the panel was asked: “Do you plan to decrease Defense spending, to balance spending, or do you believe high spending is essential to security?”

After Paul explained how he was “tired of all the militarism that we are involved in,” and his plan on cutting back, he said, “But we’re under great threat, because we occupy so many countries. … The purpose of al-Qaeda was to attack us, invite us over there, where they can target us … but we’re there occupying their land. And if we think that we can do that and not have retaliation, we’re kidding ourselves.”

This is, of course, an old and well known narrative.

By questioning Paul, however, Rick Santorum exposed the latter’s naivety when it comes to the goals and motives of al-Qaeda:

On your [Paul’s] Web site on 9/11, you had a blog post that basically blamed the United States for 9/11. On your Web site, yesterday, you said that it was our actions that brought about the actions of 9/11. Now, Congressman Paul, that is irresponsible. The president of the United States — someone who is running for the president of the United States in the Republican Party should not be parroting what Osama bin Laden said on 9/11. We should have — we are not being attacked and we were not attacked because of our actions. We were attacked, as Newt [Gingrich] talked about, because we have a civilization that is antithetical to the civilization of the jihadists [full transcript here].

After rejecting Santorum’s thesis, Paul made his fatal blunder:

Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda have been explicit — they have been explicit, and they wrote and said that we attacked America because you had bases on our holy land in Saudi Arabia, you do not give Palestinians fair treatment, and you have been bombing — [audience booing] I didn’t say that. I’m trying to get you to understand what the motive was behind the bombing.

This exchange clearly revealed Paul’s lack of knowledge concerning the nature of the enemy. After all, it’s one thing for some Americans to believe that the source of all conflict is the United State’s presence in some countries, it’s quite another — it’s dangerous — for a potential president to think, and speak, this way.

Ironically, Paul even contradicted himself: minutes earlier, when discussing the need to cut back on the military, he complained that we had a military presence in 130 countries — bringing to mind the question: why haven’t these countries lashed out?

But what’s worse is Paul’s naivety — that he would actually swallow and regurgitate verbatim the propaganda al-Qaeda has been dishing for years: thus “Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda have been explicit — they have been explicit, and they wrote and said”; and “I’m trying to get you to understand what the motive was behind the bombing.”

Did it never occur to the congressman that al-Qaeda could be, um, lying? Had he bothered to juxtapose al-Qaeda’s propaganda to the West — which indeed does amount to blaming U.S. foreign policy for their terrorism — with the other things “they wrote and said,” he would have learned their ultimate motives.

For example, for all his talk that U.S. “occupation” is the heart of the problem, shortly after the 9/11 strikes, Osama bin Laden wrote to fellow Muslims:

Our talks with the infidel West and our conflict with them ultimately revolve around one issue — one that demands our total support, with power and determination, with one voice — and it is: Does Islam, or does it not, force people by the power of the sword to submit to its authority corporeally if not spiritually? Yes. There are only three choices in Islam: [1] either willing submission [conversion]; [2] or payment of the jizya, through physical, though not spiritual, submission to the authority of Islam; [3] or the sword — for it is not right to let him [an infidel] live. The matter is summed up for every person alive: Either submit, or live under the suzerainty of Islam, or die. (The Al Qaeda Reader, p. 42)

This medieval threefold choice, then — conversion, subjugation, or the sword — is the ultimate source of conflict, not U.S foreign policy (see also “Reciprocal Treatment or Religious Obligation,” which compares al-Qaeda’s messages to the West with its internal messages to Muslims, documenting all the contradictions).

The good news is that, if Paul is ignorant and naive regarding al-Qaeda and its motives, based on all the loud booing he received, increasing numbers of Americans are not.

Raymond Ibrahim, an Islam specialist and author of The Al Qaeda Reader, is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum. To receive his articles, sign up on his mailing list.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: campaign4liberty; cutandrun; liebertarians; pauliban; paulqeda; ronpaul; ronpaultraitor; traitorpaul
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1 posted on 09/15/2011 10:04:01 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
& everyone else's policy has been working so well.

I'm just saying put'um all in straight jackets.

Not that that wouldn't cause more unemployment( our only growth industry).

2 posted on 09/15/2011 10:12:46 AM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: smoothsailing
Ron Paul’s Foreign Policy Ignorance and Naivety

We need more of the Bush/Perry foreign policies, like with Mexico for instance.

Foreign policies with Mexico, have proven to be a win win for Americans.


3 posted on 09/15/2011 10:14:00 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: smoothsailing

Where did you get that picture of Paul. Quite frankly, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen him smile. Not only is he a crank, he’s a mean angry crank!


4 posted on 09/15/2011 10:15:21 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: dragnet2

You’re kidding! Right?


5 posted on 09/15/2011 10:17:06 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: dragnet2

“We need more of the Bush/Perry foreign policies, like with Mexico for instance.”

You do know that Paul has no problem with open borders with mexico, didn’t you?


6 posted on 09/15/2011 10:19:52 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: smoothsailing

Paul/Bachmann 2012.

We bring the crazy!


7 posted on 09/15/2011 10:21:25 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (.....A man eventually wears the face he earns.....)
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To: smoothsailing

LOL!

Great graphic. Paulsen had a lot more going for him, at least he was funny.


8 posted on 09/15/2011 10:22:23 AM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: smoothsailing
On a serious note, we should continue with our great foreign polices. What a great benefit they have been!

We spent trillions in Iraq and Crapistan and now our gas prices are really cheap, we sent our manufacturing to Communist countries, which really improved our economy here, all while the government looted the American treasure to support these great foreign polices. Now America is broke, the dollar is near worthless, millions homeless, jobless etc. It's wonderful!

Everywhere you look, people in other countries are in the streets waving American flags, and chanting USA is great!

9 posted on 09/15/2011 10:26:57 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: smoothsailing

Ron Paul for Secretary of Treasury!

(He’s generally sound on economic matters, indeed more so that most of the GOP field, but would be a disaster if allowed anywhere near foreign policy or defense policy.)


10 posted on 09/15/2011 10:30:31 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: hedgetrimmer
You’re kidding! Right?

No, I'm being very serious here.

11 posted on 09/15/2011 10:31:07 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Even if Paul is wrong on foreign policy, his philosophy makes a lot more sense than the neo-cons and liberals. The last 10 years should be proof enough for anyone.


12 posted on 09/15/2011 11:06:01 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: jazusamo
Great graphic. Paulsen had a lot more going for him, at least he was funny.

Thanks! Paulsen was funny, Paul is just nuts.

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13 posted on 09/15/2011 11:29:24 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: demshateGod

These foreign policies have worked out so well, Americans will likely be exchanging cans of food instead of gifts, this Christmas.


14 posted on 09/15/2011 11:30:03 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Paul/Bachmann 2012. We bring the crazy!

LOL, that'll work, or maybe....

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15 posted on 09/15/2011 11:33:15 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: dragnet2

Sigh.....


16 posted on 09/15/2011 11:45:43 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

Meanwhile, enjoy the funny pics others post, since they have little to say.


17 posted on 09/15/2011 11:47:35 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Osama Bin Lauden would have done well by attacking us on 9-11, IF the American people were as weak kneed cow-towing ignorant and feckless as Ron Paul.

He was counting on us being introspective and cowardly, like a bunch of Paul supporters.

Luckily for the future of the world we are not so lily livered and acquiescent in the face of brutality and murder.

18 posted on 09/15/2011 11:53:32 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: smoothsailing

Confucius might say. People who plan on taking over the world by blowing themselves up have no future. Building a world class military, like China, would have a better chance.


19 posted on 09/15/2011 12:01:17 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: allmendream
Osama Bin Lauden would have done well by attacking us on 9-11, IF the American people were as weak kneed cow-towing ignorant and feckless as Ron Paul.

Oh come now...After trillions spent, draining the American treasure, occupying other countries for years, costing thousands of American lives, even the current socialist president went along with a plan to take him out.

20 posted on 09/15/2011 12:21:34 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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