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US Postal Service eyes 35,000 job cuts
The Jakarta Globe / AFP ^ | September 16, 2011

Posted on 09/15/2011 9:20:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The US Postal Service unveiled Thursday a drastic downsizing scheme for the embattled public company, including cutting 35,000 jobs, as it seeks to avoid collapse amid a "new reality" in the economy.

"Faced with a massive nationwide infrastructure that is no longer financially sustainable," the USPS said it was proposing sweeping changes aimed at saving the organization up to $3 billion a year.

Among the proposals being studied were cutting more than half of its processing facilities, limiting service, and eliminating as many as 35,000 jobs, the company said in a statement.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; obama; postalservice; postoffice
Everything turning to dreck during his term. Coincidence?
1 posted on 09/15/2011 9:20:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Unexpectedly”.


2 posted on 09/15/2011 9:30:29 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some have said that the USPS is having issues due to the internet / e-mail. That’s certainly true, but not the only reason - the down economy is also simply resulting in less things being shipped as fewer orders are being placed. The internet has also been a source of increased business for the post office as people order more things online rather than going out and buying it - less economic activity all around is also harming USPS just like anything else.


3 posted on 09/15/2011 9:30:41 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

One other factor that has hurt the Post Office are its labor costs.

Recently, I was watching something on Fox News where they compared the labor costs of the Post Office vs UPS or FedEx. I do understand that FedEx and UPS can’t accurately be compared to the Post Office because they don’t process mail but if I recall the costs, the Post Office came out extraordinarily high.


4 posted on 09/15/2011 9:36:53 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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"Ah gee whiz."

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5 posted on 09/15/2011 9:53:34 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I never win at Scrable.)
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To: MplsSteve

I don’t know about other places, but here in Texas UPS gets about $15-$18 and hour and the Post Office gets near the $30 range. That is just to carry mail and be able to read the address. If they would cut the pay to about $15 an hour and cut retirements about 20%, they would be in the black the first year and a stamp would be a quarter. They will strike for more money and lose 100,000 jobs rather than save jobs for everybody.


6 posted on 09/15/2011 10:15:18 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds great!

Go for it!


7 posted on 09/15/2011 10:17:28 PM PDT by Noob1999
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To: chuckles

but they have to fight off all those dogs!


8 posted on 09/15/2011 10:34:21 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What the postal service needs is retirement benefit CUTS..
And a reduction of other retirement benefits..

Also a plan to privatize the postal service..


9 posted on 09/15/2011 10:39:11 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe

IIRC, the USPS was privatized a long time ago. Or am I mistaken?


10 posted on 09/15/2011 10:41:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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Whatever it takes. Fix it USPS — on your own!


11 posted on 09/15/2011 11:32:34 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

[ IIRC, the USPS was privatized a long time ago. Or am I mistaken? ]

Maybe so, maybe not... Except for the federal dollars that go to support it..
Like Government Motors..


12 posted on 09/15/2011 11:38:19 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Republican Wildcat

“Some have said that the USPS is having issues due to the internet / e-mail. That’s certainly true, but not the only reason - the down economy is also simply resulting in less things being shipped as fewer orders are being placed. The internet has also been a source of increased business for the post office as people order more things online rather than going out and buying it - less economic activity all around is also harming USPS just like anything else.”

You are exactly right in your analysis of what’s happening here. It is primarily the lousy economy that has affected the U.S. Post Office, not just e-mail and the internet. Again you are exactly right about how the internet has actually helped to increase business for the U.S. Post Office in the delivery of packages for orders made over the internet. The older I get the more I do my shopping on-line. So are many other baby boomers who are just about the largest population blip out there.

All of my merchandise is delivered to me primarily by UPS, Fedex, and USPS. In fact many of my purchases are delivered via USPS. E-mails have cut into regular mail sent, of course, however, what has also affected the USPS’s bottom line is less Ad’s and brochures being sent through the mail due to the rotten business climate in general, and the expense of mass mail advertising. Catalog companies are now sending out less of them; so many that I receive have the caveat on them that unless I plan on making a purchase, this will be my last catalog from them. They are only sending out so many to people before they remove those that don’t buy anything in X amount of months from their mailing lists. That, on top of the pension and healthcare costs of their unionized employees means the U.S. Post Office is screwed.


13 posted on 09/16/2011 1:06:26 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good. Start with the bad attitude Hussein cultist at my local P.O.


14 posted on 09/16/2011 2:05:15 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I would not go anywhere NEAR a USPS facility these days if I could avoid it and would do my postage by computer print out, drop off at the box outside or whatever....what with the volatile mixture of: a) massive layoffs, b) sense of extreme victimhood and entitlement these days; c) people also on all kinds of psychotropic drugs these days in the USA; d) availability of weapons, some which can pump out some serious fire at a fast clip; e) "all the problems in my life are everyone else's fault...I will take out as many people as I can and then just off myself" mentality with growing numbers of dispondent, sick people.

This is not an pro-gun control observation. This is pure common sense.

It seems to me it is only a matter of time that a pissed offed, severence-ed USPS postal employee, well, "goes postal"--somewhere in the USA. Boy do a I pray that I am wrong.

15 posted on 09/16/2011 2:16:07 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (De-RINOFICATION of the GOP leadership is Job Number ONE. Let's GIT 'ER DONE!!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The woman who delivers our mail here in Winter Haven is top notch and always has a good thing to say. She has been on this route for 25 years now. She could give lessons in pleasantry.

However...the antagonistic,confrontational idiots at the main USPS downtown need to go. I cringe if I have to go in there. Customer service at the counter died years ago.

Perhaps it is time to let this business model fail and allow free enterprise take over - yea right.


16 posted on 09/16/2011 3:51:32 AM PDT by LFOD (Formerly - Iraq, Afgahnistan - back home in Dixie.)
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To: chuckles
The national postal unions have never gone out on strike.

There's some hope in a bipartisan bill introduced by senators Susan Collins and Tom Carper to enable the USPS to access the money the agency has been forced to overfund pension obligations. If that bill passes, the postal "crisis" largely passes away also.

17 posted on 09/16/2011 3:58:50 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This doesn’t make sense.
The USPS is government jobs.
Everywhere you turn, the feds are expanding and hiring.
But the USPS is threatening layoffs.
Is this a just a ploy to get more funding?


18 posted on 09/16/2011 4:24:03 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
There's some hope in a bipartisan bill introduced by senators Susan Collins and Tom Carper to enable the USPS to access the money the agency has been forced to overfund pension obligations. If that bill passes, the postal "crisis" largely passes away also.

Only temporarily. The crisis reappears in a few years as the postal volume continues to decline.

The Postal Service should start the process of downsizing via "attrition". That is, as workers retire or leave the job they should not be replaced. The number of Post Offices and Handling Centers must also decline as volume declines. The Postal Service needs to manage its declining volume by continually reducing costs proportional to that decline. Don't wait until the volume is a fraction of its current level to begin transforming the workforce/facilities/costs.

19 posted on 09/16/2011 5:29:12 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: NRG1973

I agree the long run entails downsizing. The Collins bill would give the breathing spell to let attrition do the work.


20 posted on 09/16/2011 5:32:58 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are thinking of bringing back the pony-express.


21 posted on 09/16/2011 5:55:39 AM PDT by mmanager
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When did the Postal Service start using Fedex?

Ordered some books from Amazon and the tracking says they are coming via USPS with a USPS tracking number but the detail tracking shows it coming via Fedex Smartpost.

22 posted on 09/16/2011 6:07:15 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Obama - Wear The Fail!)
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To: N. Theknow
Ordered some books from Amazon and the tracking says they are coming via USPS with a USPS tracking number but the detail tracking shows it coming via Fedex Smartpost.

In that case, your package was actually shipped via FedEx, who utilized USPS for the "last mile" delivery (aka FedEx SmartPost service). What's a bit interesting is that the converse occurs as well; USPS has a contract with FedEx to bundle priority letters and fly them to destination via the FedEx network.

23 posted on 09/16/2011 6:13:43 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: hosepipe
Except for the federal dollars that go to support it.. Like Government Motors..

Actually, no. They are governmental in that they have their own police force, and regulations with the force of law, they do not pay taxes, and members of the board of governors are appointed by the President. But they are almost entirely self-sufficient in income (the government pays for mail to the blind, etc.).

24 posted on 09/16/2011 6:34:13 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
On the afternoon of March 23, 1970, President Richard Nixon addressed the American public on television. He announced that he had, “just now, directed the activation of the men of the various military organizations to begin in NYC the restoration of essential mail services.” The president took this extraordinary step as a reaction to an ongoing wild-cat strike among U.S. postal workers. At the core of the strikers’ complaints were recent Congressional actions that gave a 41% pay raise to Members of Congress while postal employees would receive a 4% raise. Letter carriers and other postal workers were at the low end of the national wage scale. The situation was so dire that some carriers in New York City were eligible for welfare programs.

The strike began just after midnight on March 18, 1970, as members of the National Association of Letter Carriers (NALC) local #36 voted 1,555 to 1,055 to walk out the next morning. Even as NALC president James Rademacher urged his membership to return to work, the wild-cat strike spread across the nation. By the time President Nixon appeared on television to announce his decision to call up the reserves to help move mail in New York City, the strike had spread to 100 US cities, and involved over 200,000 postal workers.

As workers marched in picket lines in front of post offices from New York to Los Angeles, Americans who might have taken their mail for granted in previous weeks were anxiously seeking a resolution to the strike. At a time before cell phones and the internet, when fax machines were brand new and few in number, mail carriers toted the nation’s commerce and information in their bags. Letters, bills and checks to pay those bills, birthday cards, passports, legal documents, and even draft notices piled up in mail sacks on post office floors across the nation.

The strike came to an end a little over a week after it began. Postal workers eventually secured a larger pay increase. The troubles that had led to the 1970 strike were not unique to postal workers. By the late 1960s it had become evident that the centuries old institution of the Post Office Department was crumbling under the strain of post World War II mail volumes. The solution to many of these problems at that time was the reorganization of the Department on July 1, 1971 into the U.S. Postal Service. But that is another story for another blog and another time.

The 1970 Postal Strike

25 posted on 09/16/2011 6:39:41 AM PDT by DeaconBenjamin (A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

I was aware of that one, I didn’t consider it a national strike, but with the information that you provided a case can be made to call it that.


26 posted on 09/16/2011 6:51:26 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: MplsSteve
I think UPS is a good job....if you can get it....

yes, what they don't want to talk about is the pay, the benefits, and the PENSIONS eating up all the money....

so cut jobs already....at least that will be less pension money owed....and then if they do declare bankruptcy, they can all go on to the Pension Guarentee plan......

27 posted on 09/16/2011 11:15:27 AM PDT by cherry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they made say 350,000 cuts then I might be impressed...


28 posted on 09/16/2011 4:09:50 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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