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The Democracy Worshipers ^ | September 16, 2011 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 09/16/2011 7:09:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

"Your people, sir, is ... a great beast."

So Alexander Hamilton reputedly said in an argument with Thomas Jefferson. At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, Hamilton explained:

"Real liberty is not found in the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments. If we incline too much to democracy, we shall soon shoot into a monarchy, or some other form of dictatorship."

In his column, "Democracy Versus Liberty," Walter Williams cites Hamilton, James Madison and John Randolph, who wrote of "the follies and turbulence" of democracy, and John Adams:

"Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."

Yet what our fathers feared we embrace. For it may fairly be said of this generation that it worships democracy. Indeed, the fanaticism of this faith in democracy as the path to worldly salvation causes many to hail any and all revolutions against any and all autocrats.

One wonders: How is it that this childlike faith endures?

After all, the French Revolution gave us the Terror and Napoleonic wars. The Russian Revolution gave us Lenin, Stalin and 70 years of totalitarian horrors. Mao's revolution put 30 million Chinese in early graves.

Cuba's revolution gave us an end to freedom and 50 years of Fidel's cult of personality. Iran's revolution that took down the Shah raised up the Ayatollah.

One would think we would have learned a little skepticism.

Yet no sooner had the crowds in Tunis turned out their autocrat and the throngs taken over Tahrir Square in Cairo than our giddy elites were proclaiming the "Arab Spring" and demanding the United States get on the side of the Arab street against all autocrats.

Yet Hosni Mubarak, though a ruthless ruler, had been our man in Cairo since the assassination of Anwar Sadat, fighting alongside us in the Gulf War, keeping the peace with Israel, allying with us in the war on terror.

But as soon as the tide turned against him, we ditched him and cheered on the crowd in Tahrir Square, a few of whom celebrated the downfall of despotism with a sexual mauling of Lara Logan.

What our democracy-worshipers, our "power-to-the-people" lovers of revolution fail to understand is that revolutions unleash all the forces in a society, including the most noxious. Indeed, especially them.

To understand what revolutions and popular democracy are likely to produce, we need to understand the fires in the minds of the men who create or capture those revolutions.

And neither Africa nor Arabia offers much in the way of hope.

The overthrow of Ian Smith's government in Rhodesia brought to power Robert Mugabe and his Mashona, who proceeded to massacre the Matabele of rival Joshua Nkomo, rob the whites of their property, drive them out of their country and create the hellhole that is Zimbabwe.

Yet such is the power of democracy worship, this secular religion, to blind people to the evidence of their own eyes that virtually every Western leader favored one-man, one-vote democracy in Rhodesia.

As we see in Julius Malema, that admirer of Mugabe and 30-year-old firebrand of Mandela's ANC, just convicted of a hate crime for his singing of the anti-apartheid ditty "Shoot the Boer!" who wants to expropriate South Africa's mines and confiscate white farms, racism and tribalism are alive and well in liberated Southern Africa. And democracy is their enabler.

To know what the Arab Spring is likely to produce, one needs to look not only at the Kerenskys who lead the Facebook-Twitter revolutions, but the Lenins and Trotskys who stand silently behind them.

The Arabs of Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Yemen and Bahrain want new leaders to reflect the popular will. And what is that will?

In the most recent elections, an Islamic party took power in Turkey. The Muslim Brotherhood advanced dramatically in Egypt. Hezbollah and Hamas were vaulted to power in Lebanon and Gaza.

Democratists who demand we distance ourselves from the kings of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Morocco and Bahrain, who do they think will replace these monarchs?

Do they care, or is democracy the right way, results be damned?

In liberated Libya, reprisals are being perpetrated against the black Africans Moammar Gadhafi brought into the country, and the Islamists are surfacing.

In liberated Iraq, it is Muslim vs. Christian, Sunni vs. Shia, Arab vs. Kurd. In Sudan, it was Arab Muslim against African animist and Christian that tore the country in two. In Ethiopia, it was the ethnic Eritreans who seceded to establish a country of their own.

Looking at Africa and the Middle East, men seem willing to march for a better life and to demonstrate for democracy. But when it comes to fighting and dying, the calls of race, religion and tribe alone seem capable of compelling the ultimate sacrifice.

Before we endorse the right of all peoples to have what they want, perhaps we should know what they want. For in the Mideast, it appears that most would like to throw us out and throw our Israeli friends into the sea.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: alexanderhamilton; buchanan; democracy; neoconservatives; patbuchanan; pitchforkpat; republic

1 posted on 09/16/2011 7:09:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Democracy is three rapists and two women voting on how to spend the afternoon.

2 posted on 09/16/2011 7:20:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Kaslin
Democracy is available only to those societies that are prepared for it.

That is proven over and over when overthrows of authority are replaced by anarchy then tribalism and the ascension of yet another strongman.

Until a society is sufficiently educated and information about alternatives to leadership is widely available, democracy cannot emerge.

I recall the first national elections in Viet Nam. The literacy rate in the hamlets was 14%, yet we published tons of campaign information about the candidates that very few could read.

So we distributed dot decals, a different color for each candidate to fix to the campaign flyers. Now all they had to do was vote for a color... The voters also had to request a ballot with their favorite color, all under the watchful headman's committee...

But they had freedom and democracy....

3 posted on 09/16/2011 8:17:41 AM PDT by gandalftb (11th MEU TRAP force)
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To: Kaslin; dennisw; SJackson; SunkenCiv; Paleo Conservative; Cacique; Clemenza

It is a rare day when I agree with Buchanan on the Middle East.

4 posted on 09/16/2011 8:14:06 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

:’) Thanks rmlew. His quote of Alexander Hamilton will make a bunch of heads explode around here.

5 posted on 09/17/2011 9:18:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link --
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To: SunkenCiv
Hamilton has some great lines, which is to be expected from an arrogant man who was the smartest man in the room.

"3/4 of the members of Congress were mortal enemies to talent and that 3/4 of the remainder were contemptuous of integrity."

"The voice of the people has been said to be the voice of God; and, however generally this maxim has been quoted and believed, it is not true to fact. The people are turbulent and changing, they seldom judge or determine right. "

6 posted on 09/17/2011 10:57:59 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: SunkenCiv
The Demwits have successfully replaced "Republic" in the minds of the American people with "Democracy." Everyone talks about our "Democracy," but we do not have one. Yet.

The Demwits are working on that step of their incremental, fundamental change of our nation, may they [redacted for maintenance of my posting privileges and the survival of this post].
7 posted on 09/18/2011 7:30:59 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

They are working on replacing the name “Republic” with the name “Democracy”, but with the intent of “Communism”.

The people will have less say under “Democratic” leadership. Just look at the damned Obamacare that would not have passed a direct democratic vote.

8 posted on 09/18/2011 7:38:35 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Fight for Liberty)
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To: FreeAtlanta

You’re right.

9 posted on 09/18/2011 11:24:30 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for posting.

10 posted on 09/19/2011 9:21:22 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Kaslin

11 posted on 09/19/2011 4:39:09 PM PDT by OddLane (If Lionel Hutz and Guy Smiley had a lovechild together, his name would be "Mitt Romney." -KAJ)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.


12 posted on 09/19/2011 5:38:51 PM PDT by SJackson (Free Palestine, return it to the inhabitants who had the land taken by the Romans, Alan West)
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To: Kaslin

You should also check this article out on Human Events.

Be sure to read the comments.

13 posted on 09/19/2011 5:44:03 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: rmlew
It is a rare day when I agree with Buchanan on the Middle East.

Here is another one for that rare day:

"Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy."

-- Ron Paul

I can't find an attribution for this one:

"Would you rather live free or live in a democracy dominated by socialists, racists, and moochers?"

14 posted on 09/20/2011 10:14:44 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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