Skip to comments.No apologies: Bachmann defends HPV remarks
Posted on 09/16/2011 7:51:54 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Michele Bachmann is on the defensive about comments she made earlier this week suggesting that a vaccine against a virus linked to cervical cancer poses a danger to young girls.
"During the debate, I didn't make any statements that would indicate that I'm a doctor, I'm a scientist or that I'm making any conclusions about the drug one way or another," the GOP presidential hopeful told reporters here who questioned her about the story she told suggesting that the vaccine had caused mental retardation. Asked whether she would apologize for comments that outraged medical experts say will discourage parents from getting their children immunized, Bachmann said: "Oh, I'm not going to answer that."
During the Republican debate Bachmann attacked her rival Rick Perry for mandating vaccinations against the human papillomavirus vaccine (HPV) for Texas school girls - a decision that the Texas legislature later overruled.
"To have innocent little 12-year-old girls be forced to have a government injection through an executive order is just flat out wrong," she said during the debate.
After the debate, Bachmann took her critique a step further, describing in several television interviews how a tearful mother had approached her after the debate saying that her daughter "suffered mental retardation" as a result of the vaccine.
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While she's right on the point about vaccination should be voluntary, the fact remains that her mouth seems to be working while her brain isn't - and that's been increasing the past few weeks (and we can't blame Ed Rollins for this one, since it was an off-the-cuff remark).
Even putting aside the spurious accusations against vaccination, how credible can Bachmann be when she appears determined to confuse autism with mental retardation - which are actually two very different things?
You really seem fixated with her. How much is Perry paying you to post these threads.
She needs to close her mouth or she will lose her House seat next year.
Just tell kids a shot is required before engaging in sex. Those legs will clamp shut faster than anything else you could tell them.
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“During the debate, I didn’t make any statements that would indicate that I’m a doctor, I’m a scientist or that I’m making any conclusions about the drug one way or another,”
How Clintonesque of Michelle! No, Michelle you didn’t make any conclusions about the drug. It was AFTER the debate in an interview that you said a woman approached you crying saying the HPV vaccine (which prevents 70% of cervical cancer) caused her daughter mental retardation with no scientific evidence whatsoever to back the claim!
She’s got diarrhea of the mouth. It’s embarassing. Everyone can see that.
Frankly I actually like to see that at least one candidate in the race has the moral courage to stand by what she says.
If anything, the so called outrage is just a means of distracting from St Rick’s cronyism.
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If she had only stuck to the forced vaccination angle, it wouldn’t have been quite as pathetic. The mental retardation link has been pretty thoroughly debunked by genetic research. Her biggest problem though was focusing on that issue instead of important “save us from Obama” issues.
Remembering that Merck did these studies during the same period when their internal quality control systems were in sort of FREE FALL and unable to keep fraudulent data OUT of their formal reports, I am sure you are interested in them.
I'm sure you've forgotten it but they'd hired a guy (and his peeps) to keep track of and evaluate Merck anesthetics and sedatives. He made up the data.
But I have to say I like a politician who will not apologize for what they feel just because someone takes offense or because their original statement didn't play well in the media. Say what you mean. Mean what you say. Don't apologize.
This issue may end up sinking Bachmann, but I respect her and I would still vote for her.(I'd probably vote for Perry as well.)
I think that if you're going to have your kids in public schools, then the standard set of shots (MMR, tetanus, polio, etc.) are required, because of the communicability of those diseases. I had to get them when I was in school. Not that I think children should be forced to, but at least its understandable, because of how one kid could spread measles, etc. to all the others, before they even knew they had it.
The HPV is not communicable other than by having sex, and as such, doesn't seem to present as much of an acute health risk, which makes it even less justifiable for forcible vaccination in my mind.
Hope you have that one.
“Shes got diarrhea of the mouth. Its embarassing. Everyone can see that.”
Yes you’re embarrassing. What do you expect her to do, when someone asks her a question perhaps she should just say “DRey thinks I shouldn’t say anything”.
Yes, including for Hepatitis B, a blood or body fluid born virus not spread through causal contact, commonly spread through sex.
She’s checked in to the Waffle House.
I wonder only this, if there was an Attackwatch.com since say, 2007, including all of the attacks on Palin and other non-Obama supporters the list would be atrocously long, nasty and true. The thuggery from the “other side” must end as they paint a picture of horrid TEA party racists( and so much more)then they claim some minority status BS and play the victim. Michelle Bachman is only part and partial to have as Gingrich says, the republican ( and all other) candidates fight against each other instead of watching demoncrats and left winger socialist pukes fuel the fires on stories like this.
Can I get in on that action? Pharmacy school is expensive.
Well, Rush says she jumped the shark...put a folk in her she’s done.
This is illustrative of a principle I’ve always tried to follow when considering candidates for political offices. Anyone can “say the right things.” Anyone can even say the right things and have a track record of doing the right things. But ultimately, a person put into political office has to be able to govern, and do it both wisely, effectively and with great discretion. That’s a consideration that has to be thrown into the mix when choosing a candidate to support.
I like her and respect her too. I also will vote for anyone who gets the nomination, except for Ron Paul, but I don’t think that will be an issue.
I also tend to think she hurt herself. She was doing a lot better when she was attacking Obama as opposed to attacking the other GOP candidates.
Much as I hate to say it, it does seem like she talks fist and thinks second from time to time.
Nonetheless, if she gets the nod, she gets my vote.
What facts are those?
“perhaps she should get her facts straight or else close that anus she calls a mouth.”
You could lead by example.
This all is fine, but doesn’t demonstrate a link between Gardasil and mental retardation (or autism, either, for that matter).
She does great in the debates and swings the focus back to her campaign only to head out to crazy town and say Gardalsil causes Retardation. This is not going to do. Citing no name victims on totally bogus claims like this is something the Leftists do. She needs to tighten up her message and stop the baseless claims if she thinks that she is going up against the Rat machine.
I think we need to hear what Governor Perrys saying. Hes saying that his policy was right. He believes that what he did was right. He thinks he went about it the wrong way.
I believe your policy is wrong. Why ladies and gentlemen, why do we inoculate people with vaccines in public schools? Because were afraid of those diseases being communicable between people at school. And therefore, to protect the rest of the people at school, we have vaccinations to protect those children.
Unless Texas has a very progressive way of communicating diseases in their school by way of their curriculum, then there is no government purpose served for having little girls inoculated at the force and compulsion of the government. This is big government run amok. It is bad policy, and it should not have been done
A truly ‘not ready for prime time’ player.
What an embarrassment.
People who live in her district are re-thinking their support for her.
lol. You are so predictable.
Stick a fork in her, she’s done.
____________________________________________________________She was trying to take-out Rick Perry because he has cut into her poll numbers drastically. She came across a little “witchy” in the Debate and her comments after the Debate demonstrate desperation on her part. BTW, this is not the first time she’s put her foot in her mouth.
I’m with you.
She didn’t cave to the pressure to be PC.
That’s a good thing. She’s got more .... um... backbone than many other politicians.
She must be working for Romney.
You bet! There's plenty of Merck money to go around!
As are you with your radical liberal behavior.
Why get down in the gutter like them and insult conservative candidates? Why do people like you relish attacking conservatives so much? It doesn’t help the conservative movement. Its petty and immature.
The communists don’t need to beat the conservative movement to win. All they have to do is throw a few comments out and people like you will happily tear conservative candidates to shreds.
Ron Paul stands by his statements that the US is the reason for 911. Are you excited by his standing on principal even though it is a wildly incorrect and dangerous theory?
You mean perry didn’t get all the Merck money?
Why is she not allowed to speak of RISK?
PerryCARE I proposed the use of children as Mandated
Lab rats for a few campaign dollars (direct and indirect).
Were the children informed of the risk?
Don't you have the slightest curiosity what thats about? Even Merck prefaces their report by stating that certain highly sensitive people shouldn't receive the vaccine.
So, what happened to those highly sensitive people ~ to the degree Merck was willing to abandon them to their fate ~ undoubtedly horrid if they engage in sex without ever having had the vaccine?
Think about what Merck's study managers saw and why they would be willing to give up the protective advantage? Just how much cerebral blowout happened?
Frankly, given Merck's history with anesthesia I think we need to know first!
I was under the impression that redistricting was already going to take care of that. She has nothing to lose, which is probably why she started on this ill-advised adventure in the first place.
Bachmann digging in.
Many times one has to stop digging. Bachmann should consider doing so, as this may not be ‘the issue’ she wants to hang her president run on.
Advice: Pick your battles. This is NOT one that will boost you. Real doctors have already proclaimed the retardation comment as wrong.
One big difference is the mortality rate. Another, for some but not all of the mandated vaccines, is communicability.
The mortality rate for influenza is greater than for HPV. If 10,000 people get flu, and 10,000 people get HPV, more will die from flu and complications than from HPV.
Measles, diptheria, whooping cough are highly contagious, and have higher mortality rates than influenza.
Frankly, driftwood, we need a higher caliber conservative than someone like Michelle O’Bachmann that goes on hysterical, almost delusional rants against fellow conservatives, blathering info she got from yet another hysterical groupie (or else she just made it up). She’s a national figure as a candidate. She needs to step up her game and act like one. Pitiful.
Thank you, that makes perfect sense.
I have a friend-of-a-friend whose daughter is severely disabled with autism and he blames the immunizations, I guess because she was fine up until the point of being vaccinated. Not sure how I feel about that, as I've heard different arguments there. I also have a family member whose little boy was diagnosed with "autism spectrum disorder" at 18 months and she immediately put him on a whole protocol of vitamins and supplements and he is now testing completely normal. So if I did have kids, this kind of vaccine stuff would really freak me out. I can understand the measles, polio, etc... but the other stuff I think I would reconsider. I wouldn't like them telling me it was mandatory.
Well, how exactly do you think I bought my new Ferrari?
Don’t care what Ron Paul says.
Frankly I have yet to see a Perry supporter with the least moral courage to face the real issue here which is his cronyism.
Over 4,000 people die per year to cervical cancer.
How many people die each year in the US due to flu?