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Bloodlusting crowds make GOP look bad (LAUGH ALERT)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | September 16, 2011 12:42AM | Roger Simon

Posted on 09/16/2011 8:00:31 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

I love the smell of bloodlust in the evening.

Not every evening. Just the evenings that have Republican presidential debates.

There have been five such debates so far, but only the last two of them have been considered major because they have featured Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who is leading in the polls.

Except the debates haven’t really featured him. They have featured the audience.

If you have ever asked yourself how crowds could have gathered to cheer public burnings and beheadings in times past, tune in to one of these debates, and you will stop asking.

At a Politico/NBC debate last week in Simi Valley, Calif., Brian Williams began asking Perry about one unique aspect of his record: the number of people Texas has put to death.

Williams: “Gov. Perry, a question about Texas. Your state has executed 234 Death Row inmates, more than any other governor in modern times. Have you . . .”

At this point, at least part of the audience burst into loud applause and whistles and stopped only because Williams continued with his question.

Williams: “. . . have you struggled to sleep at night with the idea that any one of those might have been innocent?”

Perry: “No, sir. I’ve never struggled with that at all. . . . You kill one of our children, you kill a police officer, you’re involved with another crime and you kill one of our citizens, you will face the ultimate justice in the state of Texas, and that is, you will be executed.”

Here the audience erupted into very loud, prolonged applause with a couple of “whoops” thrown in. It was certainly the biggest audience reaction of the evening, so much so that Williams asked a good follow-up question on the fly.

Williams: “What do you make of that dynamic that just happened here, the mention of the execution of 234 people drew applause?”

Perry: “I think Americans understand justice.”

Flash forward to Monday’s debate, this time in Tampa and sponsored by CNN and the Tea Party Express.

The moderator was Wolf Blitzer, who was trying to pin down Ron Paul, a libertarian and a physician, on the question of what you do about a young man who refuses to buy health insurance and then gets deathly ill.

Paul: “What he should do is whatever he wants to do, and assume responsibility for himself. My advice to him would (be to) have a major medical policy, but not be forced . . .”

Blitzer: “But he doesn’t have that. He doesn’t have it, and he needs intensive care for six months. Who pays?”

Paul: “That’s what freedom is all about, taking your own risks . . .”

Raucous applause and whistling broke out from the audience, almost covering up the rest of Paul’s answer.

Paul: “This whole idea that you have to prepare and take care of everybody . . .”

Blitzer: “But congressman, are you saying that society should just let him die?”

“Yeah!” a man screamed loudly from the audience, setting off more applause.

Paul: “No.”

And then Paul explained how when he practiced medicine before Medicaid, “the churches took care” of the uninsured and “we never turned anybody away from the hospitals.”

But it was the audience that made the news, not Paul. Some people wondered how you cheer for letting a sick person die.

Easy. You just open up your mouth and spew. And it became one of the debate moments that people remembered.

The next morning, Perry, probably after being briefed by his handlers, told reporters: “I was a bit taken aback by that myself. We’re the party of life. We ought to be coming up with ways to save lives.”

Jacob Weisberg of Slate called the audience reaction “medieval,” Tommy Christopher of Mediaite called it “ugly” and “ghoulish” and many news organizations carried the story that Ron Paul’s former campaign manager, a libertarian, died at age 49 in 2008 from viral pneumonia, was uninsured and left $400,000 in medical bills for his mother and friends to pay.

There have been a number of loud and ugly moments in America’s recent political history, ranging from Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) shouting, “You lie!” during President Barack Obama’s address to a joint session of Congress in September 2009 to the cheering for a sick person’s death in Tampa this week.

But at least Wilson was forced by the leaders of his party to apologize for his boorishness. In Tampa, those who want to be the future leader of the Republican Party stood on stage in utter silence, not one using the moment to rebuke the crowd for its behavior.

It is said there is wisdom in crowds. But sometimes a crowd is just a mob that happens to be sitting down.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bamaqueer; 2012; gop; guillotine; immolation; otherpeoplesmoney; pigressives; rats; revolution; sledgehammer; wilsonunapologized; youlie; youliebarackman
And Barky 0bama cheering on the piggish Hoffa Jr's call for political assassinations ... nothing wrong with that!!
1 posted on 09/16/2011 8:00:35 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief
Let us not forget Barry telling his people to get in their faces during the campaign.
2 posted on 09/16/2011 8:03:23 AM PDT by mk2000
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To: Chi-townChief

But sometimes a crowd is just a mob that happens to be sitting down.”

AND sometimes a columnist, is just a homo looking for his next gig....

What a puke this Roger Simon is.


3 posted on 09/16/2011 8:04:00 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Chi-townChief
I was a bit taken aback by that myself. We’re the party of life. We ought to be coming up with ways to save lives.”

Actually we should be the party of freedom and sometimes freedom means making stupid choices and facing the consequences of them.
4 posted on 09/16/2011 8:04:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek

Paul always has that tendency to punk out when pressed.


5 posted on 09/16/2011 8:06:20 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

St Rick was the one who was “taken aback” (punked out)


6 posted on 09/16/2011 8:09:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: mk2000

"Kill those white 'cracker' babies"

7 posted on 09/16/2011 8:11:54 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: cripplecreek

Perry blew it as well.


8 posted on 09/16/2011 8:18:51 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

Blitzer: “But congressman, are you saying that society should just let him die?”

Paul: “No.”

OK, so who pays?


The next morning, Perry, probably after being briefed by his handlers, told reporters: “I was a bit taken aback by that myself. We’re the party of life. We ought to be coming up with ways to save lives.”

But I didn’t hear any good ideas from Perry either. Again, who pays for the sick guy who has no money and no insurance?


“...many news organizations carried the story that Ron Paul’s former campaign manager, a libertarian, died at age 49 in 2008 from viral pneumonia, was uninsured and left $400,000 in medical bills for his mother and friends to pay.”

How does one leave debts to one’s mother and friends? Did they somehow obligate themselves to pay?


9 posted on 09/16/2011 8:24:48 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Chi-townChief

I know an administration apologist who is a lawyer and is over 50, a smoker and no health ins. I think it’s irresponsible, but she does it. And she shares prescriptions, has her kids share inhalers...........I told her I couldn’t talk about it anymore; I didn’t agree with it. She accuses anyone who has a policy difference with the administration of “hate”.

On the plus side, she is pro-life.


10 posted on 09/16/2011 8:26:06 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Chi-townChief

I don’t mind liberals perceiving conservatives as savages to be feared. Sometimes I wish it were true.


11 posted on 09/16/2011 8:26:42 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Chi-townChief

Regardless of Paul’s, Perry’s, or anyone’s answer to the hypothetical posed, it is ridiculous for the media to cling to crowd reaction. We could compile a laundry list of youtube videos depicting liberal/Democrat crowds cheering violence, racism, etc. The desperation is palpable.


12 posted on 09/16/2011 8:35:51 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: mk2000

The noise came from a handful of Paul supporters but the Tea Party is getting blamed.


13 posted on 09/16/2011 8:42:03 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Chi-townChief

WE ARE NOT THE PARTY THAT MURDERS... DIMS ARE THE PARTY OF MURDER... THEY KILL AND THEN SELL BABIES... THE MOST INNOCENT AMONGST US.

LLS


14 posted on 09/16/2011 8:52:51 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Is the person that you support a Crony Capitalist... A.K.A. CRAPITALIST?)
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To: swain_forkbeard

The point that neither Paul nor Perry made clear is that the crowd was mocking the liberal stupidity of the questioners rather than cheering anyone’s death.


15 posted on 09/16/2011 9:00:14 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

exactly. Stupid straw man question that the crowd was sarcastically cheering, IMO.

I watched MSNBC that night (I like it for the laughs), and they were apoplectic over the crowd cheering. I thought it was funny myself.


16 posted on 09/16/2011 9:03:21 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: mk2000
Let us not forget Barry telling his people to get in their faces during the campaign.

Or these:

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17 posted on 09/16/2011 9:07:52 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Chi-townChief
The looters and moochers that make up Obama’s base need people who won't fight for their rights. They need people who can be swayed by a sob story into acting against their own best interests and the best interests of the nation. This kind of cold determination scares the heck out of them, and well it should. It means the victim game isn't working as well as it used to.

When the cult of the phony victim fails the Democrats have nothing left. Without their status as a victim the welfare queens are just leaches and the union goons are just thugs. Good men possessing firm, cold determination know how to deal with leaches and thugs.
18 posted on 09/16/2011 9:20:40 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Here's an insight into Simon's corrupt political ideology from his own mini-biography:

"When Simon dies, he intends to be buried in Chicago, so he can still participate in the politics of that city."

19 posted on 09/16/2011 9:21:21 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Chi-townChief
to the cheering for a sick person’s death in Tampa this week.

To be fair, it was a hypothetical sick person's hypothetical death.

20 posted on 09/16/2011 10:03:56 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Mr. Bird

I remember the crowd reaction at the NAACP when the story was about ‘sticking it to whitey’.

Somehow the media was all up in arms about how the story came full circle and the speaker decided that ‘sticking it to whitey’ was not productive, so therefore the clip of the audience reaction was somehow “out of context”.

The audience at the NAACP didn’t know where the story was going - they cheered a black woman using the power of government to discriminate against white people.


21 posted on 09/16/2011 10:13:55 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: HIDEK6
To be fair, it was a hypothetical sick person's hypothetical death.

Good point. These Dems who are concerned about a hypothetical deadbeat were the same people who approved the murder of Terry Schievo.

22 posted on 09/16/2011 10:25:16 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Chi-townChief
Let the libtard press talk amongst themselves

who cares what they say anymore- they obviously missed the point.

The audience member was responding to the IDOCY of the question, not expressing an actual desire for death of a less fortunate.

Ron Paul's BRILLIANT answer was lost in all this discussion over an audience jeer- which is probably their intention.

He [Paul] said that before the government took over everything people were never turned away from hospitals or churches when they needed help.

No one was left dying in the streets because THE GOVERNMENT was not mandating it.

It is not a Government or Nothing problem, as the question implies.

23 posted on 09/16/2011 12:04:06 PM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: swain_forkbeard
Perry blew it too and it reveals his lack of conservative mindset.

All Republicans should practice this answer:

"It is not a 'Government or Nothing' problem. For the money the government wastes helping this ONE person, private charities could have helped THREE"

24 posted on 09/16/2011 12:08:58 PM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: Chi-townChief

Another Libtard. Another Axelrod inspired lie.


25 posted on 09/17/2011 1:07:57 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Chi-townChief
[Art.] Jacob Weisberg of Slate called the audience reaction “medieval,” Tommy Christopher of Mediaite called it “ugly” and “ghoulish” and many news organizations carried the story that Ron Paul’s former campaign manager, a libertarian, died at age 49 in 2008 from viral pneumonia, was uninsured and left $400,000 in medical bills for his mother and friends to pay.

That's the payload -- ugly, piggish, nasty, hateful, love-to-hurt Rethuglicans! And mind that Blitzer was in on the play, because he broached the subject with Ron Paul.

This was a called MSM play on Ron Paul and the GOP -- they went to Paul because he'd be most likely to say, "well, the guy wouldn't buy insurance, so he is responsible for his own bills", which they could then spin. But the audience rooting for Paul and against the obvious "throw Granny in the snow" headline play, gave them their peg -- Monstrous Rethuglicans Et Cetera.

26 posted on 09/17/2011 2:43:57 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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