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Democrats for Romney? (to block Perry)
Washington Post ^ | September 16, 2011 | Dana Milbank,

Posted on 09/16/2011 9:15:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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.....Romney has a well-known history of more liberal positions on health care, climate change, gay rights and abortion. .....

Encouraging Perry’s candidacy is too dangerous a game for Democrats. Since World War II, no president with an approval rating as low as Obama’s (now hovering around 40 percent) has been reelected. And polls showing Perry to be weaker than Romney against Obama should be small comfort. In January 1980, a Harris poll found that President Jimmy Carter was polling four percentage points better against Ronald Reagan than he was against George H.W. Bush. Carter was more than 30 points ahead of both at the time, but, because of the electorate’s sour mood, wound up losing to Reagan by 10.

It’s reasonable to think the same could happen to Obama in the likely event that economic numbers don’t improve much. “What should the White House do now?” Democratic strategist James Carville asked in a CNN.com commentary this week. “One word came to mind: panic.”

So, given these growing fears that Obama may lose in 2012 to any Republican with a pulse, maybe it’s time for Democrats to stop hoping that Perry will be the next Barry Goldwater. There’s admittedly not much they can do to shape the outcome of the presidential primaries, but they might wish to think twice before using their rapid-response teams to help Perry bury Romney.

One party operative close to these decisions told me there have been a “lot of conversations” about the dilemma, with some labor and environmental groups arguing for easing up on the anti-Romney message machine out of a belief that he would be the “lesser of two evils.”

Good thinking. If Obama is doomed, who would Democrats rather have in possession of the nuclear suitcase: the technocratic Romney, or the coyote-shooting Perry?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; carter4romney; gopprimary; romney; slickmitt

1 posted on 09/16/2011 9:15:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; shield

2 posted on 09/16/2011 9:17:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

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This is what they did with McRino. They did it in Florida.

3 posted on 09/16/2011 9:21:56 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If they’re seriously talking about this as a defensive move, their internal polling must be horrendous.


4 posted on 09/16/2011 9:22:25 AM PDT by Publius
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think what many libs fear from Perry is the more effective all out attack on liberalism and big government - and Perry does do that more effectively right now than any other candidate and he certainly does it more effectively than Mitt.

IMO that’s what they really fear about Perry - they know this is a battle of ideas above and beyond the Obama election specifically.


5 posted on 09/16/2011 9:22:46 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Here it starts. Democrats are going to choose our party pick???? Why does the RNC allow open primaries???? This is going to be our undoing.


6 posted on 09/16/2011 9:23:47 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I just love these articles. Anyone with any brain can see exactly whats going on with these articles the media,and the Dems fear Perry and I love it.


7 posted on 09/16/2011 9:25:48 AM PDT by mk2000
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To: Publius

CLICK: Bob Shrum's still battling for Obama's reelection (Bob's in Black)

8 posted on 09/16/2011 9:26:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: HOYA97
Here it starts. Democrats are going to choose our party pick????

This is exactly why I wish Zero would be primaried.

9 posted on 09/16/2011 9:27:48 AM PDT by Marathoner (Government schools = Marxist indoctrination centers)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
IMO that’s what they really fear about Perry - they know this is a battle of ideas above and beyond the Obama election specifically.

Exactly! And they're watching one demographic group after another (that the Left has so carefully "nurtured") falling away from Obama and the Democratic Party.

10 posted on 09/16/2011 9:29:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
>>>>>..a Texan who boasted ... that suggested that Social Security is unconstitutional.

SocSec is unconstitutional.

11 posted on 09/16/2011 9:29:47 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You mean Jimmy Carter?


12 posted on 09/16/2011 9:30:26 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: tirednvirginia

Grab a cup of coffee!

You don’t want to miss this!


13 posted on 09/16/2011 9:33:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This is reason #1 that we must coalesce around ONE Republican soon. If Perry is the guy, so be it.

If Romney is acceptable to many Democrats---WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?
14 posted on 09/16/2011 9:36:25 AM PDT by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Unless we badly split the conservative vote (as happened in 2008) this shouldn't be a problem.

That said, one thing that needs to happen is we need to stop the practice of allowing open primaries to whatever degree possible in the states that allow them.

Elections shouldn't be open to being "gamed" by primary trolls.

15 posted on 09/16/2011 9:40:43 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
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16 posted on 09/16/2011 9:40:57 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: mk2000
I just love these articles. Anyone with any brain can see exactly whats going on with these articles the media,and the Dems fear Perry and I love it.

I love it, too. Perry Panic!
17 posted on 09/16/2011 9:42:28 AM PDT by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: mk2000
Anyone with any brain can see exactly whats going on with these articles the media,and the Dems fear Perry and I love it.

They fear him, but they are trying to frame the public's vision as if he's just a nuisance to them, easily taken care of... not a "problem for them". Well they can try to marginalize all they want. This nation isn't falling for their PR stunts anymore. The perfect weather systems have finally merged for a perfect storm through Washington D.C.

18 posted on 09/16/2011 9:48:07 AM PDT by casinva (Maybe it's time to have some provocative language. (PERRY / CAIN 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Democrats are going to have to split the Republican vote to win in 2012. They’ll keep pushing Mitt as a financial conservative and try to woo over the country club Republicans..


19 posted on 09/16/2011 9:58:14 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: casinva

I hope your right. I don’t trust anyone involved with this whole process from the Dems to Acorn to Barry’s people to the country club Republicans. I’ll do what I can do to tell people that Perry is one of the few that won’t put up with obama’s shit on the debate stage.


20 posted on 09/16/2011 10:02:53 AM PDT by mk2000
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

no doubt romney would be more comfortable than perry with

the democrat plantation of feminists, gays, criminals, enviro’s, and zoo specimens.


21 posted on 09/16/2011 10:07:23 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: shield

This is why the New Hampshire Primary should be closed.


22 posted on 09/16/2011 10:19:01 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“....but Romney has a well-known history of more liberal positions on health care, climate change, gay rights and abortion.”

Enogh Said.


23 posted on 09/16/2011 10:21:05 AM PDT by PMAS
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To: CPT Clay

Florida is an open primary, isn’t it?


24 posted on 09/16/2011 10:22:02 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is funny, because Perry was a Democrat even during the Reagan years, and the Romney’s have been Repubicans since the FDR days.


25 posted on 09/16/2011 10:29:35 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In that case, voters might well be willing to pull the lever for any alternative – even a Texan who boasted about shooting a coyote while jogging

Milbank is so out of touch he doesn't appreciate that almost anyone outside the Beltway would admire a man shooting a coyote that was threatening his dog.

26 posted on 09/16/2011 10:40:30 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: shield

No. Florida does not have an open primary, but the dems have up to thirty days before an election to change parties if they want to vote in the republican primary in our state.


27 posted on 09/16/2011 11:42:44 AM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Waryone

So if they change parties to vote in the primary...then they can vote in the general for whoever, right?


28 posted on 09/16/2011 11:55:26 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: HOYA97
Here it starts. Democrats are going to choose our party pick???? Why does the RNC allow open primaries???? This is going to be our undoing

Because this is the corrupt "Two-Party Cartel".

29 posted on 09/16/2011 11:56:09 AM PDT by Digger (T)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It seems like Rush Limbaugh opened that Pandora’s Box with his “Operation Chaos” in the 2008 Dem primaries.


30 posted on 09/16/2011 12:12:33 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Palin or Perry, whoever is ahead in the delegate count on primary day)
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To: Antoninus
If Romney is acceptable to many Democrats---WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?

It tells me they're afraid of Perry. This is how we got McCain - by picking apart all the other choices. If Sarah's going to get in, she's got to do it NOW; otherwise, we have to get behind Perry asap.

31 posted on 09/16/2011 12:19:49 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Axlegrease knows that Baraq has no chance in a 2-way matchup.
He only got 53% last time with EVERYTHING going for him.

So the plan is to get Mitty nominated via the Dems version of Op Chaos, spark a Tea Party challenger on the ballot in most states, and win with a Clintonian plurality.


32 posted on 09/16/2011 12:20:00 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Senator Goldwater

We should know by now party registration doesn't tell the whole story.

Perry's been a Republican longer than Reagan had been when he ran in 1980.

33 posted on 09/16/2011 12:57:45 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: shield

Of course, a person of any party or no party can vote for anyone on the ballot in the general election.


34 posted on 09/16/2011 4:01:07 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I laugh at this, because Rick Perry is polling very high numbers from hispanics. You know why.


35 posted on 09/16/2011 7:13:59 PM PDT by Force of Truth (Intelligence and virtue are preferable in a candidate, but I'd much rather he or she be chinchy.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney has been rising in the polls. The Dems were attacking him when he was a front-runner, and will again if he regains the advantage. Romney is also polling better than Perry vs Obama. Some of the reasoning used here just does not line up with reality. The Dems don’t want the Republican to win NO MATTER WHO HE IS.


36 posted on 09/16/2011 7:19:18 PM PDT by Force of Truth (Intelligence and virtue are preferable in a candidate, but I'd much rather he or she be chinchy.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Yes.

The Left will work to depress the GOP vote (w/ a Romney nomination) which will inhibit 2012 GOP voter TURN OUT (which they KNOW is softening for their team) and set up as many places where fraudulent voting will help (and they're fighting the voter ID bills passed in TX, GA and WI).

37 posted on 09/17/2011 1:56:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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