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U.S. essentially defenseless from stunning new weapon
WND.com ^ | Sept 9, 2011 | Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin

Posted on 09/16/2011 1:13:22 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2

As the nation remembers the 10th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001, experts are warning that the U.S. effectively is defenseless against an electro-magnetic pulse attack or a far less expensive radio frequency attack on the nation's critical military and civilian electric and electronic infrastructure, according to Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

Two experts – one a communications systems engineer involved in classified programs who works on EMP vulnerabilities and the other a U.S. Defense Department analyst knowledgeable of their impact – said that the nation's sensitive telecommunications and the electronic systems embedded in its financial and banking institutions can be "fried" by a "turn of the switch."

The result could be a chaos that could allow terrorists to attack virtually at will.

They both pointed out that relatively cheap over-the-counter technology embedded not only in sensitive U.S. military equipment but also civilian electronic systems has not been protected from such attacks, a development that could create complete panic throughout the U.S. if they were subject either to an EMP or RF attack.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alarmist; dimbulb; emp; false; ntsa; nutburger
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1 posted on 09/16/2011 1:13:26 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2
U.S. essentially defenseless from stunning new weapon
EMP's may be stunning, but they're NOT new.
2 posted on 09/16/2011 1:16:06 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

I know, right? Wasn’t Newt talking about this years ago?


3 posted on 09/16/2011 1:17:48 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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Fight fire with fire...

... release the BEEBER!

4 posted on 09/16/2011 1:19:23 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

without the electronics deeply embedded in systems to provide food, goods, products, fuel and finances, the parts of the nation hit effectively could be returned to an agricultural age, with citizens depending on local production for food and fuel for heat and transportation.

Great. America becomes Afghanistan overnight.


5 posted on 09/16/2011 1:19:49 PM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY but Obama)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

An EMP attack would be suicidal to whomever launched it. I would nuke the living sh*t out of the country that initiated it.


6 posted on 09/16/2011 1:20:11 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Winstons Julia

pat robertson’s had this on 700 club off and on.


7 posted on 09/16/2011 1:20:27 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: evets

What’s that thing?


8 posted on 09/16/2011 1:20:39 PM PDT by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: neverdem; narses; SmithL; SunkenCiv; Nachum; Responsibility2nd

U.S. essentially defenseless from stunning new weapon: socialist voters trained by socialist teachers and indoctrinated by socialist ABCNNBCBS.

U.S. essentially defenseless from stunning old weapon: Liberal voters trained by liberal teachers and indoctrinated by liberal news media.


9 posted on 09/16/2011 1:22:10 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

I thought there was a relatively cheap $1.78 fix to protect the electrical grid from emps, but nobody was interested. The gizmo that cost $1.78 went on transformers, IIRC..
I know somebody else here will remember it.


10 posted on 09/16/2011 1:22:29 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Freepers, please turn yourself in at attackwatch.com)
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To: 98ZJ USMC

You would, but the current pResident wouldn’t.
He has to authorize any nuclear attack, and he wouldn’t.


11 posted on 09/16/2011 1:22:29 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Ping


12 posted on 09/16/2011 1:22:49 PM PDT by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Our SSBN fleet will flatten anyone who dares to fire a missile and detonate a nuke over the USA. This threat is mostly a joke to our forces.


13 posted on 09/16/2011 1:23:36 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Where’s the “Not this Shit again” guy? This gets reposted at a minimum of monthly.


14 posted on 09/16/2011 1:23:36 PM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: Iam1ru1-2
The military procurement specs dropped EMP, RFI, and EMI protection from it's process of buying stuff. A 480volt motor for a deck elevator on an aircraft carrier costs about $14,000 with protection, but about $600 without.

This was done during the end of the Clinton era.

15 posted on 09/16/2011 1:23:59 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: al baby

You’ve been around here since 98 and you haven’t seen a beeber set on “stune” yet? That’s series.


16 posted on 09/16/2011 1:24:32 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: evets

Heck, Obama is probably trying to get kim jong il on the phone to beg him to test North Korea’s emp on the US, just so the mocked one can take down #attackwatch on twitter.


17 posted on 09/16/2011 1:25:49 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Freepers, please turn yourself in at attackwatch.com)
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To: al_c

Let me know how this turns out, I’ll be in the shower.


18 posted on 09/16/2011 1:26:48 PM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: Iam1ru1-2

19 posted on 09/16/2011 1:26:48 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: al baby
Lol A Buddy of mine was down in T.J. this weekend...
20 posted on 09/16/2011 1:26:52 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: ken21

Was that before of after he said it was ok to divorce one’s spouse if s/he forgot where s/he put the car keys?


21 posted on 09/16/2011 1:27:05 PM PDT by Wallop the Cat
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To: Iam1ru1-2

The Deep Blue Democrat Cesspool Cities are defenseless. The rest of us will do ok.


22 posted on 09/16/2011 1:29:45 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: Iam1ru1-2

“One Second After”


23 posted on 09/16/2011 1:30:58 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: al_c

You’ve been around here since 98 and you haven’t seen a beeber set on “stune” yet? That’s series.

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You’ve been around here since 01 and you don’t know al baby knows better than anyone what that is and that he was sarcastic? That’s series.

Unless you were sarcastic too.

/sarc
sarc
(I cant decide which sarc tag to use. I’m sarconfused!)


24 posted on 09/16/2011 1:32:49 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Iam1ru1-2

All your bandwidths are belong to uth.


25 posted on 09/16/2011 1:33:59 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Iam1ru1-2
EMPs are hardly new. It would have been possible starting 20 years ago to have at least our infrastructure protected but they thought “why bother” we can just nuke anyone that does it blah blah blah. Except of course when an emp weapons is launched as a weather satellite and just sits in orbit until triggered. There is so munch junk up there we wouldn't be able to determine who did it.
26 posted on 09/16/2011 1:37:27 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: 98ZJ USMC

“An EMP attack would be suicidal to whomever launched it. I would nuke the living sh*t out of the country that initiated it.”

Presuming the EMP didn’t knock out our retaliatory capability. Under Reagan, I was confident of that. After eight years of Beelzebubba and three hundred years of Barry Sowetoro, not so much.


27 posted on 09/16/2011 1:39:42 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: DesertRhino

It does not take a nuke to create an EMP weapon.


28 posted on 09/16/2011 1:42:19 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Durus
” EMPs are hardly new. It would have been possible starting 20 years ago to have at least our infrastructure protected but they thought “why bother” we can just nuke anyone that does it blah blah blah. Except of course when an emp weapons is launched as a weather satellite and just sits in orbit until triggered. There is so munch junk up there we wouldn't be able to determine who did it.”

Nuke all the likely suspects! At that stage of things it won't matter what anyone else thinks.

29 posted on 09/16/2011 1:46:34 PM PDT by mongo141
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To: 98ZJ USMC

The problem with an EMP attack against the United States is the domino effect it would have for the world economy. As the U.S. economy flushed down the drain, there would be an economic void that would take everyone with it. Mass nations would die off from starvation and disease as the U.S. food products failed to make it to market. The living would not know how to deal with all the dead.


30 posted on 09/16/2011 1:47:11 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: sockmonkey

As I understand it, the proposed “smart-grid” would essentially weaken our power-transmission and make us more susceptible to EMP-weapons.


31 posted on 09/16/2011 1:47:17 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ZULU

Great. America becomes Afghanistan overnight.

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Bullshit. We were nothing like Afghanistan before we had near universal electricity. And ate only locally produced food.

The rise of the factory farm and the like is a recent development.


32 posted on 09/16/2011 1:49:24 PM PDT by dmz
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To: 98ZJ USMC
An EMP attack would be suicidal to whomever launched it

Are you forgetting that that is exactly how the mooslimes like it?

33 posted on 09/16/2011 1:51:38 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: al baby

It’s a beeber, al baby can tell you all about it. He was stuned the first time he encountered one...


34 posted on 09/16/2011 1:52:01 PM PDT by null and void (Day 969 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Winstons Julia

EMP’s have been known about since the early 50’s the problem is back in the 50’s electronics were vacuum tubes NOT computer microprocessors/ IC chips that are damaged by static electricity. However we are not defending against this form of attack at this time.


35 posted on 09/16/2011 1:59:08 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

None of our everyday consumer products are hardened against EMPs. So yeah, we are screwed if that kind of attack happens. I’m not sure if even the military is totally protected against it.

Just think Obama wants to basically disarm us by cutting the military, abandoning space and reducing our nuclear defense.

WTF people, he needs to go....sooner than later


36 posted on 09/16/2011 2:00:15 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: dsc
"Presuming the EMP didn’t knock out our retaliatory capability."

I doubt that it would. Because an EMP would not effect anything under the sea, and remember we have a lots of nasty stuff lurking in the briny deep.

37 posted on 09/16/2011 2:05:25 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Take your old electronics, computers, etc. and wrap them in several layers of aluminum foil alternating with a non-conductor (cardboard).

Best place to store them is in a metal trash can with a metal lid.

They will be quite valuable if there is an EMP or CME problem.


38 posted on 09/16/2011 2:24:17 PM PDT by darth
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To: Winstons Julia
For those interested in the facts about the EMP threat, here is a good web site:

http://www.empcommission.org/

I recommend that you read the 208 page, 7 MB download report from Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack. The report was done during the Bush years, so I doubt that any of the very reasonable and prudent recommendations were put into effect. Maybe I am wrong. I hope so.

Read the whole report. It is fascinating, and you will learn a lot about EMP and its effects.

As a side note, I have visited the facility where they tested items for vulnerability to EMP. One of my colleagues collects data there.

39 posted on 09/16/2011 2:32:57 PM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: 98ZJ USMC
An EMP attack would be suicidal to whomever launched it. I would nuke the living sh*t out of the country that initiated it.

Assuming our missiles could launch and our bombers get off the ground.

40 posted on 09/16/2011 2:33:06 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: darth

Interesting thought.


41 posted on 09/16/2011 2:39:45 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: darth

“Take your old electronics, computers, etc. and wrap them in several layers of aluminum foil alternating with a non-conductor (cardboard).

Best place to store them is in a metal trash can with a metal lid.”

Um. What will happen when we plug them in? Anything?


42 posted on 09/16/2011 2:40:52 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: 98ZJ USMC; All
“An EMP attack would be suicidal to whomever launched it. I would nuke the living sh*t out of the country that initiated it.”

That presumes that we knew who launched it. It could be done from a sea launch platform by deniable assets. Do you think our current President would launch retaliation on a hunch?

For all who want a good knowledge of the EMP threat, here is a good site:

http://www.empcommission.org/

I suggest all who are interested to download the 208 page 7 mb report. It has some fascinating information in it. They tested quite a few items. All cars that they tested, that were turned off during the EMP, started afterward. About 90% of those who were running when the EMP hit, once they were powered down, started up again.

We also have many vulnerabilities.

I visited the facility where the testing was done. I have a colleague that collects data there.

43 posted on 09/16/2011 2:41:40 PM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
What about smallpox virus?
44 posted on 09/16/2011 2:46:31 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("That is the great eternal question: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" ~Ann Coulter)
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To: marktwain

Best info I have seen. Thank you! Lots of reading to do now...


45 posted on 09/16/2011 2:48:12 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Raebie

As long as you can get electricity they should work just fine.

I got the aluminum foil advice from an EE who studied EMP and how to protect against it.


46 posted on 09/16/2011 2:48:40 PM PDT by darth
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To: ZULU

I will grow poppies and start my own weirdbeard religion.


47 posted on 09/16/2011 2:50:37 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: Iam1ru1-2

MEN! STUNE YOUR BIEBERS!


48 posted on 09/16/2011 2:52:39 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: darth

“As long as you can get electricity they should work just fine.”

Did he tell you how the power grid was supposed to survive an attack?


49 posted on 09/16/2011 2:54:04 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Drill Thrawl

A great read. Real page turner and chilling to consider the after effects of an EMP.


50 posted on 09/16/2011 2:54:51 PM PDT by miele man
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