Obama Loses Jewish Support Jewish support for Obama drops

United States President Barack Obama enjoyed the support of an estimated 80% of U.S. Jews in the 2008 elections. However, recent polls indicate he will be receiving far less Jewish support in 2012.

Polls taken before the GOP upset in New York’s 9th District showed that Obama’s treatment of Israel was a crucial issue for many voters in the heavily Jewish area – and only 22% were satisfied with the way he had been relating to Israel.

Today isn't much different then the past. Today a Jewish community is beginning to drift away from a politician that attended an antisemitic church for 17 years, has Hussein as a middle name, a Muslim and later atheist father, and made all sorts of comments throughout his political life that run contrary to the nation of Israel and value system they say they believe in. All of this was information readily available before the elections in 2008. Now he's doing things that don't agree with- what a shocker.

The Jews have a death wish.

They supported Clinton (no big supporter of Israel), they supported Carter (no big supporter of Israel), they supported FDR (someone who didn't really like the Jews and made some nasty comments about them), they went against Eisenhower who did support them even when he did become President, they supported Gore, Kerry, Obama... ( http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/jewvote.html ) They consistently vote for the more liberal, the further left candidate (even local and state), even if this person has openly voiced antisemitic ideas, vilinizes Israel, supports behaviors that go against their religious values. Unless he's a complete wacko they will generally throw their vote behind the left candidate. FDR threw them under the bus, and they love him! Now before you resort to name calling, realize I have no issue with the Jews or nation of Israel. My jaw just hits the ground when I see them vote for people that openly take positions that flagrantly go against their value system and essentially put Israel in a weaker position, people that openly make anti Semitic statements, repeatedly.

Your follow up posts have little or nothing to do with your original post: Jews supported the Nazis.

This is a false statement, and, in fact, a lie now that you know better.

The German National Socialist party was openly and vehemently anti-semitic and nationalistic. This racist bent drew from capitalist nationalist parties (who also excluded Jews) and from the other socialist.

Jews were never supporters of the Nazi party and there is no record of them ever being so, despire your assertion to the contrary.

If you are going to accuse Jews of supporing leftist who betrayed them, you should use the anolgy of the Soviet Communists, who promised to end Jewish pogroms, treat everyone equally, and give everyone a fair shot based on merit.

Of course, the Soviets, like Obama, lied, and were actually secretly anti-semitic.

Ahhhh,

Read again, you had banks in the US, owned by Jews supporting them, and I even gave a few examples.

I don't think you'll find much in terms of actual polling or election data from this time in Germany that is credible and actually based on empirical data. Almost everything on this is going to be gained through deductive means. Realize, Jews found themselves picked on in Europe as a whole, even in France, Great Britain... FDR had an opportunity to allow greater immigration pre-war and he sat on his hands (although the left media which idolizes this President tries to whitewash this). Jews had been looked down upon for a long time in Europe; Hitler was another such mouth and nothing unique. There were German nationalist and patriotic Jews prior to the rise of the Nazi's when they went off the deep end. In Germany you had many Jews that actually belonged to the organizations out of which later the Nazi's were borne (Freikorps) and that is verifiable, like that or not. You’re flat out wrong in that the antisemitism was “unusually” vitriolic early on. The Nazi’s spewed their crap but so did many others all the way before Luther (someone who didn’t like the Jews very much, BTW). The Nurnberg race laws didn’t come until 1935… Even after the race laws were enacted and things became worse, many Jews (Within Germany and those who already had been part of the system- not those in the later annexed areas) were exempt. There were some that actually held higher positions within the Nazi political machine or Wehrmacht. Because you’ll simply call it a “lie” and won’t believe it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Milch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice

and others… Like it or not, it’s the truth.

But beyond that, there were many folks that were Jewish or had Jewish ancestry that actually fought for the Germans and didn’t hold any sort of high position. History has been contorted and over simplified in order to stuff it into a category with a simple label on it. Though probably not interested:

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html

http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/projects/jewishlife/JewishSoldiersMark.htm

Think about this. Today and there is polling data nowadays that gets into those details, you have the majority of Jews that can vote in an area support Keith Ellison (A Muslim that supports Palestinian statehood, makes statements overseas like this: http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article37605.ece, active in the Nation of Islam…). And the National Jewish Democratic Council supported him… *** Tell me, what’s the difference between back then and today?*** The Jews (in general) will vote for a more liberal/socialist candidate even if it's not a secret that there's antisemitism. Somewhere and somehow, the Jewish community is able to reconcile and separate out mutually exclusive interests where their faith and the nation of Israel are at odds with a socialist candidate that they generally favor...

“If you are going to accuse Jews of supporing leftist who betrayed them, you should use the anolgy of the Soviet Communists, who promised to end Jewish pogroms, treat everyone equally, and give everyone a fair shot based on merit.

Of course, the Soviets, like Obama, lied, and were actually secretly antisemitic.”

I completely agree that they lie in order to rise to power. But in reality all the “signs” are there.

Let's go back to the Keith Ellison (Obama gets enough attention):
If someone says they're Muslim
Writes letters adoring Luis Farrakhan
Is active in the Nation of Islam
Talks of Palestinian statehood
Has CAIR helping him on his campaign
.... (Before and during the elections)

Shouldn't this be like a big bright billboard screaming at you? It does for me.

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