Skip to comments.Perry vs. Bachmann: Who Wins the Debate Over HPV Vaccine?
Posted on 09/16/2011 5:40:16 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty
As the debates rage on among GOP presidential hopefuls, one particular issue has caught my attention. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., has entered a particularly bitter battle with Gov. Rick Perry over his 2007 executive order requiring that all sixth-grade Texas girls be vaccinated against the human papillomavirus (HPV), which is a risk factor for developing cervical cancer.
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Neither.. its not a big issue.. its a manufactured issue..
Well if you take off points for being a liar....Perry.
Doesn’t matter, don’t care.
Arguing from an anectdote is always a losing argument, Perry wins.
Fortunately, that means the issue will go away and more important things can be debated.
Perry should say he was simply overcome with emotion in doing everything within his power to protect young girls from an insidious disease called cancer and then reiterate what he has already admitted, that he made a mistake.
And then be done with it and let others dwell on it.
It seems to me the issue is deeper than this one instance.
Does Ricardo have statist tendencies?
Should the goobermint regulate business to save us from global warming, regulate salt and fast food to make us healthier, and otherwise nanny-state us?
Leftists don’t have a problem with the “individual mandate” in ObummerCare because they think having the government tell you what to do is O.K.
I don’t like mandates and I don’t like nannystaters.
I think it’s good that Perry says he was wrong on the Gardasil deal. But is he saying the reason he was wrong was because the power of government should not take away individual freedom and responsibility? Or that he was wrong because he didn’t “message” his action appropriately?
I would disagree with you here. The whole controversy is over worldview....either we believe in fascism or freedom. Government mandating any known toxins into the body without permission of an adult is fundamentally unconstitutional. The ideology of such a person is one of fascism.
Our whole medical system —regulations, research set-up, government grant connections are very troubling and John Stuart Mill is exactly right. We are ending into a totalitarian state with no freedom from government intrusion into our personal lives.
This issue is the core of what true freedom is.....either we are responsible adults who can make our own decisions when we have the WHOLE TRUTH (not just the Big Parma agitprop) or we have government masters who tell us what we have to do-—particularly with our children.
Either Freedom or a nanny state.
Nobody wins THIS debate because both have obscured the real argument and are now debating a false premise. MB shot herself in both feet and Perry is hiding behind her blunder.
The real issue isn’t even being discussed.
All things being equal, on the real issue which has been lost in the ether, Perry wins by MB’s idiotic forfeit.
There is no debate. There is merely an attack by a disgruntled and scorned woman who has abandoned reason in her fear of total campaign disaster.
The disaster is over and no FEMA to make her whole again. Michelle was
This is such an overblown non-issue. (Except that it convinced me I don’t want to vote for Bachmann.) Are you saying we’re in a nanny state because children have to be vaccinated against all kinds of diseases ALREADY? Have you been railing against vaccinations for the past 60 years, or did you just decide that vaccinations = fascist nanny state after you heard about Perry and Gardasil?
He was for it before he was against it. If the subject was Romney, what would the answers be? He has a history of trying to force his will on Texans. TTC, Gardasil, instate tuition, endless open border favoratism. Is that anyone’s idea of getting government out of our lives? You can put lipstick on this guy all you want, but it won’t hide his record.
Run Sarah Run!
Bachmann comes off as shooting her lip off without having the facts, and it's not the first time she's done this. Hell, she even confused John Wayne with John Wayne Gacy.
The Perry aide won, he got the money, and we do not know about any cold cash, but is this drug company still giving Perry money.
The Perry aide won, he got the money, and we do not know about any cold cash, but is this drug company still giving Perry money. But you could say cronyism won.
Good post! Thanks for the clarity.
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