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Mitt Romney can can beat Obama, say Florida political insiders (GOP establishment picks Romney)
The St. Petersburg Times / Politico ^ | 2011-09-15 | Adam C. Smith

Posted on 09/16/2011 9:10:39 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Florida’s most experienced political professionals are closely divided on whether Rick Perry or Mitt Romney will win Florida’s Republican presidential primary, but overwhelmingly they see Romney as the stronger candidate to beat Barack Obama in Florida.

More than 100 of Florida’s sharpest political minds participated in the latest St. Petersburg Times Florida Insider Poll - including campaign consultants, lobbyists, activists - and the results were striking: Two thirds of Democrats and two thirds of Republicans pegged Romney as the stronger general election candidate, though Republicans were considerably more confident than Democrats that Perry would win Florida’s crucial presidential primary early next year.

Half the Republicans predicted Romney would win the primary and 41 percent predicted Perry. Among Democrats, 56 percent expected Perry to win the primary and 37 percent said Romney.

"Lets face it, Rick Perry is comfort food! Like pot roast, mashed potatoes, and extra gravy it feels good going down, then comes indigestion in the morning. Mitt is more of a balanced diet, high on vegtables, low on sweets, a recipe that is likely to win the blue ribbon on election day," said one Republican.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012gopprimary; drivebymedia; flgop; gop4obama; msm; propagandawingofdnc; rino; romney
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The fix is in - the GOP establishment will try to shove Romney down the throats of Tea Partiers.
1 posted on 09/16/2011 9:10:46 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

He's a RINO

2 posted on 09/16/2011 9:13:22 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: rabscuttle385

If Mit can beat Obama anyone can.


3 posted on 09/16/2011 9:13:55 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: rabscuttle385

100 cronies can’t be wrong.


4 posted on 09/16/2011 9:15:59 PM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: doc1019

IMO, a Romney nomination splits the party and the third party allows the Democrats to walk right back in, whether its Obama or not.


5 posted on 09/16/2011 9:16:57 PM PDT by cumbo78
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To: rabscuttle385
Mitt Romney can can beat Obama, say Florida political insiders (GOP establishment picks Romney)

Unfortunately for these Florida political insiders, they are going to have to deal with us Florida political outsiders...

6 posted on 09/16/2011 9:17:51 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: rabscuttle385

“The fix is in - the GOP establishment will try to shove Romney down the throats of Tea Partiers. “

I DESPISE the GOP Country Club Establishment. Bush & Company

sent us on the road straight to HELL !


7 posted on 09/16/2011 9:18:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: doc1019
Yeah.

Perry gets fewer Indies but more GOP.

Mitt gets fewer GOP but more Indies, but also probably gets a third party challenge from the right and that will reelect Oblahblah.

8 posted on 09/16/2011 9:18:49 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: rabscuttle385
Virtually anyone vying for the GOP nomination could beat Obama. Cain could beat Obama, former NM governor Gary Johnson could beat Obama, as could Romney, Perry, or Bachmann, provided they get the party nomination. So it's really irrelevant to use this as some sort of selling point for Romney.
9 posted on 09/16/2011 9:19:13 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: rabscuttle385

Romney will not win the primary. He will not get conservative support because he is a stink’n liberal.


10 posted on 09/16/2011 9:19:54 PM PDT by svcw ( http://www.internetlastpage.com)
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To: comebacknewt

Florida’s primary is closed (only Republicans can vote in it, no independents) so I think that strengthens Perry in the Sunshine State...


11 posted on 09/16/2011 9:21:10 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: rabscuttle385
Mitt Romney can can beat Obama...

Who can't. The real question is what happens after he does. I don't trust this guy and think we will be on a different course of Progressivism that we will all hate. Any of the other candidates have a cleaner background than this dude. Except for Paul. He is an Reagan hating, pro Iranian Anarchist.

12 posted on 09/16/2011 9:23:38 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: svcw

Open primaries in many states means that many Democrat voters will rush into our primaries and try to give us Mitt whether we like it or not. These people know how to play hard-ball. They will poison the well for us.


13 posted on 09/16/2011 9:23:38 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: rabscuttle385
though Republicans were considerably more confident than Democrats that Perry would win Florida’s crucial presidential primary early next year.

Half the Republicans predicted Romney would win the primary and 41 percent predicted Perry. Among Democrats, 56 percent expected Perry to win the primary and 37 percent said Romney.

Aren't these two statements contradictory?

14 posted on 09/16/2011 9:23:47 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: rabscuttle385
Mitt Romney can can beat Obama

To what avail?

15 posted on 09/16/2011 9:27:41 PM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

My biggest problem with Romney, other than him being a complete political chameleon, is that he championed “Romney Care”. How can we nominate someone who advocated for the health care program that was the philosophical basis for the much detested Obamacare. Does not compute, especially when Romney will not renounce his earlier monstrous creation. Dr. Frankenstein must kill his monster so that we, the peaceful villagers of the adjacent hamlet can be assured that he won’t try something that stupid again.


16 posted on 09/16/2011 9:28:51 PM PDT by 3Fingas ( Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: sargon
Aren't these two statements contradictory?

YES. I'm surprised it took that long for anyone else to notice it.

17 posted on 09/16/2011 9:30:26 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: rabscuttle385

You mean the GOP RINO establishment? =.=


18 posted on 09/16/2011 9:31:29 PM PDT by cranked
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To: rabscuttle385

Milt Perry or Ricardo Romney. What’s the difference?


19 posted on 09/16/2011 9:32:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Jeb Bush’s people.


20 posted on 09/16/2011 9:34:56 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m in Florida, Mitt, can’t wait to not vote for ya.


21 posted on 09/16/2011 9:35:43 PM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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To: rabscuttle385
"Mitt Romney can can beat Obama"

Yeah, you should have seen what he did to McCain.

22 posted on 09/16/2011 9:37:28 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: rabscuttle385

“It’s Mitt or we sit.”


23 posted on 09/16/2011 9:38:49 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Milt Perry or Ricardo Romney. What’s the difference?

One is conservative on about 10% of the issues, the other on about 95%.

24 posted on 09/16/2011 9:39:53 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: rabscuttle385

No to Romney. NEVER EVER EVER! If he is nominated, it may be the death knell of the Republican party, there are too many of us who will no longer hold our noses and vote for RINOs like Romney.

Character, honesty and integrity matters and Romney has none of that. NO MORE COMPROMISING GOP!


25 posted on 09/16/2011 9:42:51 PM PDT by reaganaut (It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. ~ Voltaire)
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To: comebacknewt

If you believe that, I feel sorry for you.


26 posted on 09/16/2011 9:44:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Milt Perry or Ricardo Romney. What’s the difference?

About 6 years of experience?

27 posted on 09/16/2011 9:45:28 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Lazamataz; rabscuttle385

To what avail?

- - - - -
It would be a Pyrrhic victory at best. I have made myself clear on this, I will never vote for Romney for any reason. This is time to stand on our principles.


28 posted on 09/16/2011 9:46:18 PM PDT by reaganaut (It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. ~ Voltaire)
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To: rabscuttle385
Who can can beat the One?

At this point: McCain/Dole, The guy down the street/ The guy down the next street; Me/ My French Poodle

Hell, anybody but Obama!

29 posted on 09/16/2011 9:47:42 PM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard / The democrat party "Can Go Straight To Hell".)
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To: rabscuttle385

Mitt can beat Obama, at what exactly? Political prostitution?


30 posted on 09/16/2011 9:51:00 PM PDT by lurk
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To: rabscuttle385

Florida’s most experienced political professionals are idiots. They don’t call it the stupid party for nothing. Romney is the only Republican running guaranteed to lose to Obama. I wouldn’t vote for that flip-flopping big government statist bastard if my life depended on it. FUMR!!


31 posted on 09/16/2011 9:59:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: mylife

Okay, then let’s nominate Gov. Terry Branstad (R-IA) for president, since he has even more experience than Ricardo and Milt! I didn’t realize that was the criteria...


32 posted on 09/16/2011 10:00:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: svcw

>>> “ Romney will not win the primary. He will not get conservative support because he is a stink’n liberal.” <<<

Look out for crossover voting, caucas highjacks, and faux Republican registrations. I’m not so sure that we will even be the ones doing all the nominatin’. Actually, I don’t know the impact of those caucas states going awry, but if there were ever to be a cycle for seriousl concern, this will be that year.


33 posted on 09/16/2011 10:03:13 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Umm is he in the race?
And BTW, experience is an issue.


34 posted on 09/16/2011 10:03:36 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, who is the true conservative in the race?


35 posted on 09/16/2011 10:05:50 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ethanol pisses me off.


36 posted on 09/16/2011 10:06:45 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: comebacknewt

The question is who is the most conservative candidate that can go the distance and win.

We’ll see how this all shakes out.
Sadly our nominee gets selected by a lot of chuckleheads in the early open primarys.


37 posted on 09/16/2011 10:09:48 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife; 2ndDivisionVet

And BTW, experience is an issue.

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In your view. Experience should be less of an issue than worldview and past political decisions/stances.


38 posted on 09/16/2011 10:12:04 PM PDT by reaganaut (It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. ~ Voltaire)
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To: Jim Robinson
I wouldn’t vote for that flip-flopping big government statist bastard if my life depended on it. FUMR!!

Sadly, a lot of people on this forum have stated that they will "hold their nose and vote for him in the general" and are quick to call me an Obama voter because I won't.

I held my nose for the very last time when I voted for McCain and then only because Palin was also on the ticket. If, God forbid, Romney wins the primaries, I don't care who he selects as running mate, I'll never vote for him.

39 posted on 09/16/2011 10:13:00 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: rabscuttle385
Perry leads GOP contenders in Florida (Insider Advantage - Sep, 2011)

Perry beating Obama in Florida (Magellan Data - Aug, 2011)

40 posted on 09/16/2011 10:16:40 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: mylife
Every one of our candidates would be better than Obambi, but every one of them also comes with a fair amount of baggage.

The American people do not like Obama, but many of them still hate Republicans too. This will not be a slam dunk by any means.

We have a tough choice to make, but unless there is a surprise entrant, it is hard to see it coming down to anyone outside of Perry or Romney.

41 posted on 09/16/2011 10:18:36 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: reaganaut

Perrys world view and past decisions are pebbles on the road compared to Obama, Romney and Huntsman.

Newt also carrys more baggage.

The others have a chance but it is a slim chance with no record or funds.
Obama only won with no record because he was bankrolled and he projected the shame of racism.


42 posted on 09/16/2011 10:19:55 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: comebacknewt

Let the primarys play out.
We’ll find our candidate.
I just hope we can beat their money machine and ownership of the press.

The city dog catcher should be able to beat Obama in theory.


43 posted on 09/16/2011 10:22:44 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Jim Robinson
Agree 100% Romney is a sure loser in the general election.

There would no doubt be a third party challenge from the right, and that person would win a LOT of votes.

Wonder if those Florida "experts" are taking that into consideration?

44 posted on 09/16/2011 10:24:42 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: Jim Robinson
Florida’s most experienced political professionals are idiots. They don’t call it the stupid party for nothing. Romney is the only Republican running guaranteed to lose to Obama.

Yup.

See post #40. According to the available data, Perry is beats both Obama and Romney in Florida.

Florida has taken a hard right turn. You would think the election of Rick Scott would have given the "Florida political insiders" a clue.

45 posted on 09/16/2011 10:24:42 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: AAABEST

I work with professional idiots all the time.
We wont sway the Black vote at all, but we can sway the Hispanic vote.

JMO


46 posted on 09/16/2011 10:32:40 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: ClearCase_guy

insiders only care that gop win, not whether country or ideology win


47 posted on 09/16/2011 10:35:18 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: mylife

Perrys world view and past decisions are pebbles on the road compared to Obama, Romney and Huntsman.

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That I agree with. However, I will take a conservative with little or no political experience (like Cain) over a moderate/liberal/RINO with even 20 years political experience. Worldview matters to me, which is why Romney and Huntsman are both out along with some of the others.

Romney is being bankrolled and that is my biggest concern. He has donors with very deep pockets and I know a few things that would lead me to suspect financial support of an organization that is not beyond creating business donors for him just to get him the nomination.


48 posted on 09/16/2011 10:39:48 PM PDT by reaganaut (It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. ~ Voltaire)
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To: mylife

FWIW, my biggest problem with Perry is the illegal immigration issue and the Gardrasil fiasco.


49 posted on 09/16/2011 10:40:57 PM PDT by reaganaut (It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. ~ Voltaire)
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To: rabscuttle385
I might as well just keep this on my clipboard.


50 posted on 09/16/2011 10:42:18 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Truth is the first object.' -- Thomas Jefferson)
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