Posted on 09/17/2011 3:24:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Gardasil has been banned in many countries overseas, including India and Spain. But not here, not in the good ‘ol capitalistic “pay and play” government of the United States!!!!!
(just prior to Greta's interview with Michele Bachmann on HPV vaccine and crony capitalism).
“Banned”? Do you have a link for that comment?
Anita: The nurse Rick Perry wants with him in the White House [excerpt] In a July interview with the Salem Radio Network, Gov. Perry said his wife was inspiring him to "get out of his comfort zone" and run for president because she was "disheartened" with the administration "healthcare-wise.""Her father is an old country doctor," Perry said, "and she sees the demise of really quality healthcare and being able to take care of people like they need to be taken care of in this country and the innovations that have occurred in medicine."
Anita Thigpen Perry, 59, has a bachelor's degree in nursing from West Texas State University (now West Texas A&M University) and a master's degree in nursing from the University of Texas Health Science Center in San Antonio. Texas Tech University's School of Nursing was renamed in her honor in 2008.
She worked as a nurse for 17 years in numerous settings, including surgery, pediatrics, intensive care administration and teaching. That experience adds credibility to her criticism of the federal healthcare law, a welcome asset for Perry as he struggles to explain why more than a quarter of Texans don't have health insurance - the highest rate in the nation.
Anita Perry’s childhood was spent “making house calls with her dad,” Texas Tech University Chancellor Kent Hance told The Hill. “Healthcare is a big issue to her and her dad being a doctor – a country doctor – she certainly has a lot of opinions that were formed even at an early age over healthcare.” [end excerpt]
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once a fan and donor to bachmann,
now she’s irritating me.
You only need to use your search engine to find the Times of India and other news sources reporting that in April 2010 after four deaths occurred in girls who had been vaccinated that use of Gardasil was suspended and the government banned it. Ditto Spain. Other countries, too, where Big Pharma doesn’t rule what happens in health care.
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Yes it’s a LIE.
But what is even more troubling is that Bachmann would go to the national media with the lie and try to present it as fact. she didn’t get the woman’s name. No one can seem to id her. No witness to the remark has come forward.
Is that the kind of Prez you want, someone that doesn’t need facts or truth. Just whatever “someone” tells her on the rope line. Heaven help us if she gets in office.
So, you made the comment, but you can’t back it up. Gotcha.
She said a woman told her that their daughter suffered mental retardation as a result. Are you saying there was no woman who told her that?"I read to that point. As far as I know that was an outright lie."It isn't a lie:5 posted on 09/17/2011 3:50:19 AM PDT by Flag_This"Appearing on Fox News after the debate, Bachmann recounted a conversation with a woman in the audience. 'There’s a woman who came up crying to me tonight after the debate. She said her daughter was given that vaccine,' Bachmann said. 'She told me her daughter suffered mental retardation as a result . . .' "
That is essentially the same thing as Bush saying the British told him Saddam was seeking yellow cake from Niger and then everyone calling Bush a liar... Never mind that they did tell him that and said as much . . .
Up to that point, you are absolutely correct. But then she went further,"There are very dangerous consequences.'”
At that point, Bachmann crossed a line from strict reporting of a statement she had heard, and went into her own editorializing.When she concludes from the anecdote that the vaccine in fact is dangerous, she is going into the realm of scientific probabilities, and she is responsible for her statement. Anyone who thinks that the belief in a causal relation between the vaccine and those "serious consequences" is a typical bunch of pseudoscientific twaddle (of the sort which journalism would love in any other context) will draw unfavorable conclusions about Ms Bachmann's judgement.
Hannity has had Michele on and asked her about this and he looked disappointed too in her lack of response for facts. Jay Leno asked her the same question last night. People are seeing that this is so untrue what she is saying and questioning it and getting none answers back.
Oh, I certainly can back it up but am not going to do research for you! These issues are very well known, even if you seem unaware. If you love Perry as a candidate, you ought to drop the Gardasil discussion. Merck was hoping to make up its lost Vioxx profits on this shot, and it hasn’t happened, so you — and Perry — really don’t have a dog in the fight, really.
Did you ever think that maybe this woman didn’t want the media attention? I sure wouldn’t with all you people waiting in the wings to go after her.
I disgusted with the way people around here are treating Ms. Bachmann after all she’s done for the party just because they have a new shiny toy in Rick Perry.
Oh, I understand. You say whatever you choose, but decline to offer evidence that what you is is actually true. It’s up to everyone else to prove what you say is not true.
And don’t bother to tell me what I should and should not discuss. Unless, of course, you’re Barack Obama’s Internet censor.
OOOOh, Clara Lou, how DID you discover my role as Barack Obama’s Internet Censor? You are so smart!
You make no sense at all. No one forced Bachmann to say what she did. No one. There is absolutely no proof of this “ woman” that supposedly talked to Michele. And as a Lawyer Michele knows proof is everything for backing up things like this especially. Michele could stop any time she likes in repeating the lie she is telling and she has not so far. I feel sorry for Bachmann that she has to stoop this low to try to win which she will not. She could have done it on all the great things she has done. But she took the lowest road of all.....lies.
Amen. Good thing no one told her Martians were about to land. "But someone just TOLD me!"
There is a DEFINITE compelling state interest in vaccinations to stop widespread disease REGARDLESS of how it is spread.
Cervical cancer is a really horrendous form of cancer—and can be greatly reduced or possibly eliminated by this vaccine. It’s in the interest of everyone that the next generation be healthy—even the 55% who sin sexually in High School. The vaccine has no scientifically provable harm to the sexually pure....so I really do not understand what the fuss is about.
This is a medical and social issue, NOT political....unless of course you’re a wing-nut who opposes mandating childhood vaccinations.
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