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Trouble Rhymes with Carville
Townhall.com ^ | September 16, 2011 | Rich Galen

Posted on 09/17/2011 4:54:44 AM PDT by Kaslin

One of the most enduring songs from the 1957 Broadway musical, "The Music Man" is named "Trouble"

Trouble, oh we got trouble, Right here in River City! With a capital "T" That rhymes with "P" And that stands for Pool

Yesterday the Democrats had trouble with a capital "T" that rhymes with "C" and that stands for Carville.

As in James. As in my former back-door neighbor. As in husband to Mullfave Mary Matalin.

The James wrote an essay for CNN in which he stated it was time for President Obama to panic. I am not paraphrasing. He wrote that after thinking about the drubbing Obama and his fellow Democrats got in two special Congressional elections - one in Nevada and one in New York City, he wrote:

"What should the White House do now? One word came to mind: Panic."

The election win in Nevada would not normally have raised any eyebrows because it was in a Republican district. But the winner, former State Sen. Mark Amode1 won by a much larger margin than Sen. John McCain won that district in the Presidential election of 2008.

This is called "over performing."

That wasn't the big news. The big news was not just that the Congressional seat formerly held by Anthony "Not Sure If That's a Photo of my Tighty-Whiteys or Not" Weiner was won by a Republican for the first time in 90 years; it was that the Republican won easily and that the heavily orthodox Jewish voters in the district went for the Republican.

As Larry Sabato, University of Virginia professor of political science, correctly Tweeted after the results of the NY-9 special became obvious, it is dangerous to use special elections or polls as predictors of future events.

I replied, via Twitter, "Yes, but in both specials and polls it's better to come in first than to come in last."

In a segment on John King's CNN show last night, Carville and Democratic pollster Cornell Belcher got into it when Belcher pointed out that as bad as President Obama's poll numbers are, the Congress' numbers are worse.

James retorted, "But they keep electing Republicans!

James suggested the President fire people who aren't doing their jobs. Cornell said it was a messaging problem and that's why Obama has gone out to the states to deliver the message himself.

Carville said, "Then fire the communications staff. Communications people are a dime a dozen."

Well, hold on there just one second, Babba Louie.

I was on in the next segment and I took umbrage at that. I said, "I'm a communications person and I don't think I'm a 'dime-a-dozen' guy. I often get 12 or 13 cents a dozen."

I'm going to throw the Carvilles' Washington Post into their bushes every morning for the next two weeks.

James' advice was heavy on the firing business. He wrote:

"Bill Clinton fired many people in 1994 and took a lot of heat for it. Reagan fired most of his campaign staff in 1980. Republicans historically fired their own speaker, Newt Gingrich. Bush fired Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. "For God's sake, why are we still looking at the same political and economic advisers that got us into this mess?"

Democrats lost two special Congressional elections, the numbers for initial jobless claims show that employment may be going in the wrong direction, that solar panel company for which we guaranteed a half billion dollars in loans went belly up last week, and James Carville think's the President is surrounded by morons.

Politico reported that the non-partisan Field Poll showed,

"For the first time since Obama took office, fewer than half of state voters approved of his overall performance. In March 2009, 65 percent approved of his job was doing as president and just 21 percent disapproved. By September 2011, just 46 percent approved while 44 percent disapproved."

It is not likely that the Republican nominee - whoever he or she is - is going to win California, but it shows a deep, broad, maybe irreversible erosion of support for the President.

As one pollster who was following that New York race said, "Where [Obama] has lost his support in New York is among the Democrats."

That's trouble. With a capital "T" and that rhymes with "D" and that stands for Democrats.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: jamescarville; obamanation; panicof2011

1 posted on 09/17/2011 4:54:47 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Forget firing them. Hire more academics.

Validates the notion that just because your rich liberal daddy can buy your way into Harvard, it doesn’t mean you have much common sense.


2 posted on 09/17/2011 5:04:12 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarahcuda in 2012. Nothing but Net!!!)
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To: Kaslin

When the firing starts the first guy who needs to go is the guy at the top.

We need to fire Obama. He is the one with no experience or expertise in the administration.
Certainly he appointed all the rest of his staff, which in itself is proof of his own inexperience and lack of expertise.

Anyone who has ever run anything knows good people make you look good and bad people make you look bad. He appointed a pack of morons, racists, homo’s, and cronies to their jobs,and they are not capable. The man at the top is not capable.If you get good advice and follow it you will be successful. If you get bad advice and follow no advice you are doomed to be Obama.Of course having Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi as a part of your administration is no help either.


3 posted on 09/17/2011 5:08:02 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kaslin

When James Carville bails on a D president you now thing are going going well.


4 posted on 09/17/2011 5:20:23 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Kaslin

You don’t fire the Chicago Machine elite.


5 posted on 09/17/2011 5:40:45 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Kaslin

“For God’s sake, why are we still looking at the same political and economic advisers that got us into this mess?”

Even Carville realizes Obama owns this economy and cannot keep blaming Bush.


6 posted on 09/17/2011 5:48:09 AM PDT by csmusaret (The only borders Obama has closed is a bookstore.)
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To: All
Remember this?

Now even Carville is rethinking his support---in the brouhaha of Obama's
scheduling his jobs speech on Repub debate night....Carville was quoted as
saying he would rather watch the debate---and he's not even a Repub.

7 posted on 09/17/2011 5:55:17 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Kaslin
There are articles and comments all over the media about this message of James Carville to the Democrats. He tells them to "panic." Further he states Obama should fire his staff, "For God's sake, why are we still looking at the same political and economic advisers that got us into this mess?"

Interesting...the Dems have been telling us for years that this economic mess is Bush's fault.

The truth comes out when people get scared. Maybe someone waterboarded Carville, LOL.

8 posted on 09/17/2011 5:57:32 AM PDT by CitizenM (Obama's legacy will be to be remembered as The architect of the decline of the USA)
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To: Kaslin

Since Carville was famously wrong about the 2004 election and admitted it, giving credit to W and Rove, he has been sometimes brutally honest about the sorry state of the Dem party. These days he seems to be one of the few honest Dems around. Pat Caddell and Doug Schoen come to mind but the others just keep parroting the talking points lines.
Carville is still a serpent head but I give him an A for honesty.


9 posted on 09/17/2011 6:29:25 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman. No more second terms!)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Why the fascination on Serpent Head anyway. The POS doesn’t deserve any posting anywhere. DA Cajun!


10 posted on 09/17/2011 6:35:48 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Kaslin

Whenever Carville starts talking, look for your purse and feel for your wallet. He’d sell his mother to help the Democrats win.


11 posted on 09/17/2011 6:38:41 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Past Your Eyes

I’ve always liked Carville. His politics are screwed up but it’s pretty obvious he’s a good guy. He heads a polling and research team called Democracy Corps that has proven very willing to speak inconvenient truths to the Democrats. A couple years ago they did study of conservatives’ attitudes towards Obama and their message coming out of that was basically “Hey Democrats, you better be careful about calling these people racists, because they’re not”. Here’s the report they generated:

http://www.democracycorps.com/focus/2009/10/the-very-separate-world-of-conservative-republicans/?section=Analysis


12 posted on 09/17/2011 6:49:15 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Kaslin; freekitty; JLAGRAYFOX; vette6387; Todd Kinsey; celtic gal; MestaMachine; justiceseeker93; ..

Calling, pleading with Michael Reagan to run against Queen Dianne Feinstein, who, in my opinion, has been self-serving her entire political career and part of the DC/California problem.

Despite what one hears, the people of California are as outraged at DC and the corruption there as anywhere in the country. Granted Los Angeles and San Francisco are inhabited by Liberal wackos; the rest of the State of CA is not.

People are talking about their outage against these political hacks in the malls, in their neighborhoods, in the grocery store, and everywhere else. Believe it!

The Democrat Goebbel’s MSM is complicit in their coverup of the truth; their False Messiah and his Liberal Hack Party are Toast! They’re the enemy just as any other enemy this nation has faced on the battlefield. To save this nation for future generations, these corrupt political hacks have got to be defeated in November 2012 and 2014 and thereafter. To do less is to disgrace all those who sacrificed to keep this nation free.


13 posted on 09/17/2011 7:03:05 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Liz
There's a new edition out now .....


14 posted on 09/17/2011 7:04:47 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Liz

Do you think this is a setup for Ms. Clinton?

I can’t imagine these guys turning on O unless they had a Communist, oops I mean Democrat alternative.


15 posted on 09/17/2011 7:16:13 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Great post!

Leni

16 posted on 09/17/2011 7:33:05 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Too Bad Those of Us who Work for a Living Have to Support Those who Vote for a Living)
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To: ExTexasRedhead; Marse; Marthon; martifr77; marviec; Mask316; MASS-2 FAC; Master of None; ...

California Freeper Ping to Post #13! Maybe with a bunch of CA Freepers calling, Michael Reagan might consider running!

As always, if one wishes off my ping list please ask through FreepMail. If you asked before and pinged here, please ask again as lost my updated ping list and working from an old one. Thanks!


17 posted on 09/17/2011 7:54:36 AM PDT by seekthetruth (A President is sworn to uphold the Constitution. If he doesn't, IMPEACH him!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I don’t get out of the Bay Area much, so I have not witnessed the sea change you are talking about in the rest of the state. I hope it is true. Unfortunately, I see no disaffection or unhappiness about the Obama regime among our liberal kook friends. I’m not sure what it would take to open their eyes.


18 posted on 09/17/2011 8:07:27 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Right, I want the dims to have one hundred percent Harvard graduates on staff and I want a new conservative president who hires only high school graduates or Eureka college graduates.


19 posted on 09/17/2011 8:12:54 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: kalee

Placemarker post 112.


20 posted on 09/17/2011 8:22:43 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: kalee

Minus 100, should be post 12


21 posted on 09/17/2011 8:23:50 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: seekthetruth

EXCELLENT!!!!!


22 posted on 09/17/2011 8:48:16 AM PDT by NordP (Common Sense ConservaTEAves - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: RipSawyer

I want my next president from a smaller school—like maybe Idaho State.


23 posted on 09/17/2011 8:50:37 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Carville is honest—he sees the truth—The Dems are on the Titanic and the iceberg is in view. Soon everyone but Obama will see the truth. I said it when he was elected and I will say it now—there will come a day when he will be the most hated man in America.


24 posted on 09/17/2011 8:54:11 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: seekthetruth

Please remove me from your ping list. Thank you.


25 posted on 09/17/2011 9:03:08 AM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: Kenny

Mmmmmmmm....no.

Hillary says she’s not gonna do it-—she does look all tuckered out from her present job.

Plus the Clintons were devastated when Uncle Teddy told them to back off when they tried to out Obama.

Bill and Hill circulated pics of Obama dressed as a Muslim——but that angered Teddy.


26 posted on 09/17/2011 9:50:18 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

LOL——more like it.


27 posted on 09/17/2011 9:54:30 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

LOL——more like it.


28 posted on 09/17/2011 9:55:01 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Rumor is that Michael Reagan will run against Queen Dianne Feinstein. If that is true, Reagan will, IMO, beat her. Ronald Reagan is still loved by many in CA. You can take that to the bank, IMO.

It would do you good to get out of Wacko SF; there are sane people living elsewhere in California.


29 posted on 09/17/2011 10:09:07 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Forget firing them. Hire more academics.

Those would be "jobs created".

The hyper-over-educated dolts he doesn't fire would be "jobs saved"...

30 posted on 09/17/2011 10:29:06 AM PDT by null and void (Day 970 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Liz

The Hildabeast just might do it if for no other reason than pure spite for the late lamented Teddy.


31 posted on 09/17/2011 10:36:43 AM PDT by null and void (Day 970 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: jpsb

Unless he is paving the way for Hillary......


32 posted on 09/17/2011 11:29:15 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Henchster

Certainly.


33 posted on 09/17/2011 11:48:50 AM PDT by seekthetruth (A President is sworn to uphold the Constitution. If he doesn't, IMPEACH him!)
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To: Venturer; Egon
When the firing starts the first guy who needs to go is the guy at the top.

Yes! but for a different reason.

We need to fire Obama. He is the one with no experience or expertise in the administration. Certainly he appointed all the rest of his staff, which in itself is proof of his own inexperience and lack of expertise.

He appointed a pack of morons, racists, homo’s, and cronies to their jobs,and they are not capable. The man at the top is not capable.

I would maintain that he is eminently qualified as a community organizer and agent-of-change, has surrounded himself with like-minded operatives and they are doing a superlative job of implementing their stated goal of fundamentally changing our government.

The problem here is that the Media and the progressives sold us this package as a legitimate alternative for the leadership of a Democratic Republic! It is not!

This administration is doing on a grand scale what ACORN was originally doing -- trying to overload the system to cause it to fail: first the banking system with overwhelming numbers of bad loans, then the integrity of our election mechanism with overwhelming numbers of bogus registrations. Now, the administration is attempting to crash our economy with unsustainable deficit spending and devalued money. Their Justice Department is provocatively uneven in the application of law, the EPA and Energy Departments are killing the economy by regulation, etc.This weekend, supposed anarchy groups vow to bring down the financial system, Liberal hate speech against conservative voices is unabated and escalating, and if we respond in kind, the administration will move forward "with justification" to further remove our guaranteed rights to speech, assemble, bear arms, be free from unlawful search and seizure, and so forth.

With the willing complicity of the Media, progressives in both the houses, Democrat and Republican, an entrenched corruption, a recipient class about equal in numbers to the doner class, we may be beyond the tipping point.

34 posted on 09/17/2011 2:46:37 PM PDT by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: RhoTheta

I do not believe we have reached the tipping poinbt at this time, but an Obama win in 2012 will seal the deal.

We will be beyond redemption.


35 posted on 09/17/2011 5:36:28 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: null and void

Spiteing Teddy-—dam good idea.


36 posted on 09/17/2011 6:02:12 PM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Liz
"...Carville was quoted as saying he would rather watch the debate..."

Very telling ........................................ FRegards

37 posted on 09/17/2011 9:48:47 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Feinswine just lost her campaign funds to a ‘rat thief. “Oh boy, is this going to be fun!”


38 posted on 09/19/2011 1:06:56 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: RhoTheta

Excellent observation.


39 posted on 09/19/2011 10:59:25 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I have linked a California businessman together with Marco Rubio’s campaign manager and it appears they are going to work together. More on this as it develops and he officially declares his candidacy which should be happening within the next two weeks.


40 posted on 09/20/2011 9:42:47 AM PDT by Todd Kinsey (Todd)
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