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Why I let my son live as a girl: Mother of boy who returned to school in a skirt bravely...
Daily Mail ^ | 17th September 2011 | Helen Weathers

Posted on 09/17/2011 6:51:08 AM PDT by markomalley

Ten-year-old Livvy James loves her new school uniform, particularly the smart, grey skirt with two pleats and pockets decorated with hearts.

‘Walking to school on my first day back, I was nervous and excited, but most of all I just felt like shouting ‘‘Yeay!’’ ’ says Livvy, who wore her shoulder-length blonde hair that day in a swishy pony-tail.

‘I was so excited that I didn’t care what people thought about me. Even if people looked at me or were saying nasty things, I didn’t care. I felt happy because I could be me and didn’t have to pretend any more.’

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: childabuse; formerlygreatbritain; homonaziagenda; homopsychoagenda; homosexualagenda; liberalism; mentaldisorder; oncegreatbritain
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Full title: Why I let my son live as a girl: Mother of boy who returned to school in a skirt bravely tells her extraordinary story

This "mother" has done almost surely irreparable damage to her son.

1 posted on 09/17/2011 6:51:11 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
I was just reading this on digg. Had to comment. I'll be branded one of the "insensitive bigots" for sure.

The child needs help and the parent is enabling the condition rather than treating it.

2 posted on 09/17/2011 6:53:18 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: markomalley

Boy in a skirt—I’m thinking of Mel Gibson’s “Braveheart” here.


3 posted on 09/17/2011 6:53:58 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: markomalley

Livvy might be a chimera, in which case the mother is exonerated.


4 posted on 09/17/2011 6:54:31 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: markomalley
By the way, if anyone is on digg.com, here's the link to the comment thread:

http://digg.com/news/offbeat/why_i_let_my_son_live_as_a_girl_mother_of_boy_who_returned_to_school_in_a_skirt_bravely_tells_her_extraordinary_story.

There are only a few sane people on the thread at the moment, and, sadly, the most outspoken one also has the foulest mouth, and isn't really forwarded the argument in a way I can give a Thumbs Up to.

5 posted on 09/17/2011 6:54:52 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: markomalley

I thought this would be a Justin Bieber thread.


6 posted on 09/17/2011 6:56:04 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: markomalley

I knew he’d have to get tough or die...


7 posted on 09/17/2011 6:56:53 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: markomalley

Why not just send the lesbian, homosexual, transvestite, and bi-sexual students to a school where they can all be one in their deviancy?


8 posted on 09/17/2011 6:56:56 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: markomalley

Bravery isn’t what it used to be.


9 posted on 09/17/2011 6:58:37 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (I didn't say it was your fault. I said I am going to BLAME you.)
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To: markomalley
I didn't bother to read the story...

But I'm wondering - is there a father?

10 posted on 09/17/2011 6:58:47 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Yes, and apparently he’s been married to the mother since before their children were born. Astonishing, isn’t it?


11 posted on 09/17/2011 6:59:58 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I welcome our new reptilian overlords. They are so quiet!)
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To: markomalley

If I click on the link, is there any hope at all of seeing the phrase “the boy’s father?”


12 posted on 09/17/2011 7:00:13 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: Jack Hydrazine

You kiddin?

Pretty soon the queers would be punching the living crap out of the cross-dressers!


13 posted on 09/17/2011 7:00:17 AM PDT by djf (Buncha sheep: A flock.. Buncha cows: A herd.. Buncha fish: A school.. Buncha baboons: A Congress..)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Parthenogenesis?


14 posted on 09/17/2011 7:01:28 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman. No more second terms!)
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To: markomalley

Parents need to learn to parent again.
This requires they play the roll of the adult and not indulge every crazy notion that enters the kids head.


15 posted on 09/17/2011 7:02:09 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It’s being tried...............


16 posted on 09/17/2011 7:02:26 AM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Anima Mundi
Bravery isn’t what it used to be.

not exactly a recipe for "the Greatest Generation," is it?

17 posted on 09/17/2011 7:03:00 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: HomeAtLast; Cowboy Bob

Yes, there is a “father” listed in the story. And, btw, the parents are looking at hormone therapy in a couple of years...but they haven’t even gone so far as to consider surgery...yet (/barf)


18 posted on 09/17/2011 7:03:33 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: HomeAtLast

The father is never mentioned in the story nor are there any photos.


19 posted on 09/17/2011 7:04:06 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: markomalley

I read the article...the father says they are “just a normal family”...why do all these families with weirdness running amok keep referring to themselves as “normal”? I’d respect them more if they said, “Our family is different and this is how we are dealing with it.” But to insist that they are “normal” shows a lack of knowledge of both statistics and natural law.


20 posted on 09/17/2011 7:04:09 AM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: markomalley

Prison Counsellor: Why do you say you feel “trapped” in a man’s body?
“Trapped” Convict: Well, sometimes I get them menstrual cramps real hard.
-Raising Arizona (1987)


21 posted on 09/17/2011 7:05:15 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

LOL

RIP Johnny Cash


22 posted on 09/17/2011 7:06:04 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: djf

Now why would they do that. Both are in touch with their feminine side in an extreme way. The lesbians on the OTOH might do that especially the more manly ones.


23 posted on 09/17/2011 7:07:13 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Anima Mundi
Bravery isn’t what it used to be.

not exactly a recipe for "the Greatest Generation," is it?

24 posted on 09/17/2011 7:07:19 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: Tax-chick
"Livvy, who has just returned to Year 6 at school as a girl, stands proudly with her mother Saffron..."
25 posted on 09/17/2011 7:07:29 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman. No more second terms!)
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To: Red Badger

How’s that school working out?


26 posted on 09/17/2011 7:07:52 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: markomalley

The key to the story is the name Livvy. Neither male nor female.

This kid should be removed and the parents prosecuted.


28 posted on 09/17/2011 7:08:49 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: markomalley

And why did he not allow himself to be photographed with his transvestite son?


29 posted on 09/17/2011 7:09:14 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: markomalley

Never have so few, done so much, to help so many, have a really good laugh.


30 posted on 09/17/2011 7:09:19 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Jack Hydrazine

No photos, but he is mentioned.

Phillip, 34
listed as one of the parents.

But given the story line, that could actually be referring to a “she”.
Or a peacock.
Or whatever.

Whatever “it” is, I thing it got cougared! Ain’t got no stones left anyways!


31 posted on 09/17/2011 7:09:32 AM PDT by djf (Buncha sheep: A flock.. Buncha cows: A herd.. Buncha fish: A school.. Buncha baboons: A Congress..)
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To: texmexis best

I think Livvy is play on the female name Olive or Olivia.


32 posted on 09/17/2011 7:11:15 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Milk_High_School


33 posted on 09/17/2011 7:11:23 AM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: markomalley

Hmm ... have they checked this child’s testosterone levels? I think I’d start there and see if there is a problem there before I went along with this.

Even so, I think it best to make the kid nut it out until he’s 18. Then he if he wants to pull a chaz then it’s his problem.

I can’t beliee they are seriously considering (female) hormone replacement ON A GROWING CHILD!?


34 posted on 09/17/2011 7:12:23 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: markomalley
This is not a common mental illness, but the "remove male genitalia" manifestation is not its only form:

http://www.biid.org/

When a person's idea of how they should look does not match their actual physical form, it can be caused by Body Integrity Identity Disorder. This condition affects a small percentage of the population and is commonly manifested by a desire to have an amputation of a specific body part. In most cases, the limb that the person would like to remove is actually in healthy working order and there are no physical problems with it.

Many psychologists and neurologists have ventured theories into what causes this type of thought. The common leading idea is that Body Integrity Identity Disorder, or BIID, occurs when the brain is not able to provide an accurate plan of the body. In this case, the brain sees the offending limb as being foreign and not actually a part of the person, thus the desire to have it removed.

Some medical experts have also come up with theories that explain a more psychological source of the issues. One of these theories is that a a person with BIID may have seen an amputee at an earlier age and this image has replaced their own thoughts about what constitutes the ideal person. Therefore, to become a better person, they feel that a certain limb or appendage will have to be amputated. Unfortunately, there are no known surgeons that will carry out this type of amputation without a medical reason to perform the operation. In the most severe cases, a person with BIID may do bodily harm to the limb that they would like to have removed, thus necessitating an amputation operation. Others manage to cope with the illness by using canes and prosthetic attachments to help them feel complete. Cases of BIID are often separated into those which have an actual physical problem and those for whom the issue is psychological in nature.

I wonder if this mother would be as supportive if her son wanted to remove an arm or a leg as she is of his illness as it is displayed. It's sad when a child has mental illness, and even worse when a parent exacerbates the problem.

35 posted on 09/17/2011 7:15:39 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

“”But ya ought to thank me, before I die,
For the gravel in ya guts and the spit in ya eye...””


36 posted on 09/17/2011 7:15:39 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: markomalley
This "mother" has done almost surely irreparable damage to her son.

I can't believe a boy or girl would want to wear the clothes of the other sex without serious parental maladjusting. Hopefully, this kid will get the ultimate victory and revenge over this perversity by choosing to be a normal, healthy man when he comes to the age of decision and freedom to really think for himself.

37 posted on 09/17/2011 7:16:27 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: jtal

I can’t beliee they are seriously considering (female) hormone replacement ON A GROWING CHILD!?

____________________

Why would any doctor make such a prescription?


38 posted on 09/17/2011 7:18:22 AM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The father is never mentioned in the story nor are there any photos.

Try again and read slower.


39 posted on 09/17/2011 7:20:39 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“I can’t believe a boy or girl would want to wear the clothes of the other sex without serious parental maladjusting.”

I agree. If you read the article, this child does not sound like your average seven-year-old. It’s really a bit jarring to read his quotes. I think he’s repeating concepts and exact phrases as he heard them coming from his parents’ mouths.


40 posted on 09/17/2011 7:22:24 AM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
The father is never mentioned in the story nor are there any photos.

He was out shopping for shoes to go with his new evening gown.

41 posted on 09/17/2011 7:24:22 AM PDT by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: markomalley
I spent some time in the UK this summer. I was shocked at how far that nation has gone down the road of cultural decline. All I could think was "is this the same country that gave us Kipling and Churchill? "

If you want a picture of where America is headed in a few years, visit the UK. I weep for that once-proud nation.

42 posted on 09/17/2011 7:24:49 AM PDT by JHL
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To: markomalley
I wonder if anyone else has noticed the progression in this propaganda campaign. First, we were told that behavior once treated as both a crime and a mental illness--homosexuality--was perfectly normal and even cause for celebration. Those who disagreed were written off as bigots. Now that the public has bought that line, we're told that transvestites and other "gender challenged" people are also perfectly normal and should be encouraged in their perversion. And, of course, the pedophiles are also waiting in the wings for social affirmation.

All coming soon to an elementary school near you!

43 posted on 09/17/2011 7:25:23 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Past Your Eyes

True, but the article said the names were changed.


44 posted on 09/17/2011 7:31:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I welcome our new reptilian overlords. They are so quiet!)
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To: JHL

Actually just read the comments to see how far it’s declined. Hope this mother realizes that when sharia law begins to be enforced in England they’ll kill her son and probably her as well.


45 posted on 09/17/2011 7:31:47 AM PDT by whershey
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To: JHL

Actually just read the comments to see how far it’s declined. Hope this mother realizes that when sharia law begins to be enforced in England they’ll kill her son and probably her as well.


46 posted on 09/17/2011 7:32:02 AM PDT by whershey
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To: the invisib1e hand

“Bravery isn’t what it used to be.
not exactly a recipe for “the Greatest Generation,” is it? “

When the Brits get soft enough through this kind of nonsense, the Muzzies will simply take over and put a stop to it. It certainly wouldn’t be the solution I’d be interested in, but I simply point it out to suggest the socially softening effect of Liberalism, and where that will lead in a dangerous world.

When the time comes, this person and the parents will not be so brave about expressing their views on being a woman and wearing a Hajib under Sharia law, or the consequences of insisting on wearing one if considered by the local Imam to be a male.


47 posted on 09/17/2011 7:32:37 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: texmexis best
The key to the story is the name Livvy.


48 posted on 09/17/2011 7:33:22 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: markomalley
The mom: "'To have told him, “Pull yourself together, act like a boy,” would have been tantamount to child abuse' . . . Saffron remembers how, from an early age, Sam would scream and struggle when she tried to dress him in boys’ clothes and cried every time they cut his hair. So they began to compromise, buying boys’ sweaters in pink and designer Moschino T-shirts that appealed to Sam’s feminine side.

To help her son to make good decisions is "child abuse", but to let a toddler then preschooler then little boy make life-changing decisions that may initially have been based on nothing more than a whim is good parenting? All of my boys disliked being dressed and having their hair cut (or combed or washed) at some point and for an extended period. The difference is that I didn't allow them to have a say before they were old enough to understand their decisions. The difference is that I never compromised or negotiated in response to a child's tantrums. The difference is that my version of "child abuse" helped them to grow up, and hers is helping a confused boy to stay lost in the unimportant. I find this story disturbing, but more than that terribly sad. This will not end well, and I suspect it would have been easily avoidable if either parent had a backbone.

49 posted on 09/17/2011 7:33:32 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: markomalley

‘I want my children to be able to express themselves freely, to be who they are, not what I want them to be’...

I have to ask myself why there had to be a school assembly meeting to debut and show off the new purple skirt and boots. Was this at the behest of the school, or at the behest of the mother?

The mother is just a person who ‘goes with the flow’...I have counseled some of these ‘go with the flow people’ only to find out they’re more controlling than the parents who use a stick and make their kids march in a line.

Not having spoken to this mother, I don’t know...but I have also found some mothers who wanted a little girl so badly, and got a little boy the first and then the second time, that the nursery was decorated with glitter, pink fluff, rainbows and unicorns anyway, because the mother wanted it. Imagine yourself as a male waking up in that crib not knowing what the hell your gender is or means.

I had to laugh at my son who had me paint murals of barns and tractors, cornfields, and later NASCAR heroes on his boys walls. He said he wanted his boys to wake up with no doubt about what their role was. Of course when the Princess finally came along years later, I painted on her walls, Cinderella’s Grand Arrival At the Ball.

The most learning your child does in his life about who and what he is is in the first six months, and I suspect this ‘go with the flow’ mother had more influence than she knows.


50 posted on 09/17/2011 7:34:13 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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