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To: marktwain

Why would anyone concerned for their own safety attend a low-rider event?

I have no problem if gang members or solitary criminals want to kill each other, but what possesses others to show up where the gangs are likely to be?

“Gang problems,” inside and outside of prisons, manifest as primarily ethnic/racial/cultural phenomena, like terrorism is primarily religious.

The causes are not primarily economic or educational - that they seem to be so to some people, is to mistake correlation with causation.

Avoiding subcultural events and hangouts where gangs are more likley within a culture would go a long way towards enhancing personal safety. Working within one’s culture to create values and mores antithetical to gangs would probably go a long way towards minimizing the problem, but is an almost quixotic quest.

Short of that, a rigorous police state is the usual response of a society intent on controlling such gangs, but the police are often corrupted in the process, or undermined by the culture, or become too oppressive against non-gang citizens.

If I am White and I want to avoid gang violence, I may not want to go to motorcyle rally’s of certain types. If I am Black, I may try to avoid the ghetto, sites known for drug dealing, certain rap concerts and such. If Hispanic, perhaps avoid low-rider rally’s.

In any culture, I would fight the glorification of criminals and moral degradation in general, and I would try to vote in politicians who are tough on crime and gangs, while friendly towards the law-abiding, and I would be vigilant that the politicians and police do not become gang-like themselves. Three-strikes, death penalty, zero-tolerance, reform of our unwieldy judicial system and such would get my full support at the voting booth if the candidates also understood the true nature and distinctions of those with criminal minds. I would oppose money wasted on education, welfare, and all the other liberal nonsense which we have been told will address the “root causes.”


6 posted on 09/17/2011 9:07:03 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: dagogo redux
“Gang problems,” inside and outside of prisons, manifest as primarily ethnic/racial/cultural phenomena, like terrorism is primarily religious.

Someone who gets it.

IMO, the gang problem is a bigger threat to this nation than Al Qaeda.
7 posted on 09/17/2011 4:54:26 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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