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64% Say Boeing Should Be Allowed to Operate Plant in South Carolina
Rasmussen ^ | September 15, 2011

Posted on 09/17/2011 8:20:08 AM PDT by george76

The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) may be upset with Boeing’s plan to operate a non-union plant in South Carolina, but most Americans think it should be allowed to.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll finds that 64% think Boeing has the right to open the plant in South Carolina while just 21% disagree. When respondents are told that the NLRB believes that opening the plant is an act of retaliation against the union, the numbers barely move. Only 17% think the agency has the right to prevent Boeing from opening the new facility while 64% disagree.

The House is expected to approve a bill barring the NLRB from getting involved with Boeing’s operation of a $750 million aircraft assembly line in South Carolina – a right-to-work state -- instead of Washington State. In April, the labor board filed a complaint against Boeing for opening the plant

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 2011polls; aerospace; boeing; jobs; lawsuit; nlrb; rtw; unexpected; union; unions

1 posted on 09/17/2011 8:20:16 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Freedom is being taken away from us. About time people woke up.


2 posted on 09/17/2011 8:23:38 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: george76

question: I didn’t read much about the House debate on the bill to curtail the NLRB....but did Clyburn speak?...what did he say, if anything coherent?


3 posted on 09/17/2011 8:23:49 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the EARTH...it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: george76
21% disagree

1 in 5 people polled are idiots - great...

4 posted on 09/17/2011 8:23:56 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: george76

Tells me we have about 17% of the country who simply want a soviet style politburo government.


5 posted on 09/17/2011 8:24:13 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: george76

Who are the stupid 36% who think otherwise?


6 posted on 09/17/2011 8:24:30 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are dumber than soup.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

ditto.


7 posted on 09/17/2011 8:24:50 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: ken5050

Clyburn coherent?

Surely you jest.


8 posted on 09/17/2011 8:24:57 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: george76

ONLY 64%. This is mind blowing. 36% think the government can decide where a private company can locate its manufacturing facilities?


9 posted on 09/17/2011 8:25:06 AM PDT by freedom1st
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To: george76

Ask the 21% if they would rather the plant be opened in China, cause that’s the other choice.


10 posted on 09/17/2011 8:25:12 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15.)
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To: george76

64% of those polled must be “son of a bitches” that need taken out.


11 posted on 09/17/2011 8:28:01 AM PDT by digger48
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To: fatnotlazy
They need to read the Constitution. It says

Government of Oboma

by Obama

and for Obama's cronies....

sark off

12 posted on 09/17/2011 8:30:12 AM PDT by Young Werther (Julius Caesar said "Quae cum ita sunt. Since these things are so.".)
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To: fatnotlazy
The NLRB is another government bureaucracy, like the EPA, that needs to be eliminated.
13 posted on 09/17/2011 8:31:15 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: ken5050
Clyburn was not coherent, but he also wasn't particularly useful to the Democrats.

Of note, NLRB probably has no authority to rule on the matter ~ at least not without first abolishing the United States Constitution. There are folks in South Carolina who'd probably like that idea.

14 posted on 09/17/2011 8:31:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I wrote earlier today on another thread that after 2012, or possibly 2014, when we have a filibuster-proof Senate)when we have a GOP president, and control of Congress..we shoudl just bite the bullet and repeal the Voting Rights Act. The CBC and the left will scream..but they scream at anything we do..IT’s only because of the VRA and these artificail minority-majority districts that we have 38 or so idiots in the House..


15 posted on 09/17/2011 8:32:02 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the EARTH...it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: george76
100% of my Boeing office think we should be aloud to set up a line in SC. Though we are Salary and not Union and that I'm sure makes a difference. Go out to the shop and ask the same question to them and you will flip the poll result.

What worries me with as busy as we are on the 737 line, going to 35 a month in Nov, and 38 in 2014, that IAM 751 is going to use that pressure on Boeing in 2012 when their contract expires. After 25 years I have learned that the Union DOESN'T CARE if the company is doing good, and that a long strike can bring that to a screeching halt. They only care about the Union and how many paying members they have.

16 posted on 09/17/2011 8:35:31 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: 2111USMC
Thought: Reclassify the NLRB and EPA as terrorist organizations and ship them to Gitmo to room with the Muslims. Then take bets how long the new batch of Infidels will survive. Repeat as often as necessary until the bureaucrats are extinct.
17 posted on 09/17/2011 8:36:00 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: muawiyah

Did he defend the NLRB’s position? I wonder how many of those 1000 jobs at Boeing, and the thousands more held by subcontractors and other firms that support Boeing in SC, held by blacks. SC GOP should be pressuring Clyburn at every step..tie him to Obama..and not give him a pass...also, in a state that has the highest % of former military in the country..surely they can find another Alan West type...run him against Clyburn..he may not win..but it’s time to but him on the hot seat...they can give him a staff and plenty of financing..


18 posted on 09/17/2011 8:36:34 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the EARTH...it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: econjack
Who are the stupid 36% who think otherwise?

That same percentage that thinks Soetoro is doing a good job. They show up in every poll.

19 posted on 09/17/2011 8:36:47 AM PDT by YankeeReb (No matter what, AB0 in 2012.)
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To: 2111USMC

NLRB exists only to protect unions. We should not have a governmental agency representing one group of people to the detriment of others.


20 posted on 09/17/2011 8:37:00 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: OrioleFan

It is clear that Obama and his army think that South Carolina is only fit for growing chickens and driving pick up trucks. It is a message to the workers of South Carolina from the condescending twits at the whitehouse that unions select just who gets the work. South Carolina is unimportant to the agenda driven progressives. South Carolina people of every race and religion should stand up and tell the whitehouse just what they think of them. Start
with web sites , newspapers, billboards and whatever works.


21 posted on 09/17/2011 8:37:29 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: george76

Clearly 17% of America has no idea why companies off-shore jobs. To suggest that some government bureaucracy has the power to tell a company where in America it can operate indicates a flawed or non-existent concept of freedom.

17% is about one’s downside risk in Russian roulette, coincidentally.


22 posted on 09/17/2011 8:37:42 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: NavyCanDo
They only care about the Union and how many paying members they have.

As a union member, I can tell you you've hit the nail on the head. The rank and file have no real voice and leadership is chosen the same way the Soviet politburo was "elected".

23 posted on 09/17/2011 8:40:42 AM PDT by YankeeReb (No matter what, AB0 in 2012.)
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To: george76

I have learned over the years to discount ANY poll that doesn’t reveal the demographics involved and the questions asked. Pollsters can frame any topic to any desired point of view.


24 posted on 09/17/2011 8:42:20 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: george76

21% statists/totalitarians. Nice. Well, at least we know who the enemies are, and fortunately we still outnumber them.


25 posted on 09/17/2011 8:44:58 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. I prefer good!)
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To: george76

There’s something wrong with American people when 46% think a corporation shouldn’t be allowed to move its operations to whatever State it wants to. The Marxists have done a splendid job of indoctrination.


26 posted on 09/17/2011 8:45:15 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: liberalh8ter

Sorry, I read that as 54%..... should be 36%. The fact still remains. It should be 100% in favor of Boeing.


27 posted on 09/17/2011 8:48:16 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: muir_redwoods

muir_redwoods: “17% is about one’s downside risk in Russian roulette, coincidentally.”

That’s an interesting point, and it accurately reflects what would happen if that 17% actually had their way—America would be dead.


28 posted on 09/17/2011 8:49:14 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. I prefer good!)
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To: liberalh8ter
There’s something wrong with American people when 46% think a corporation shouldn’t be allowed to move its operations to whatever State it wants to. The Marxists have done a splendid job of indoctrination.

I think you meant either 21% or 17%.

29 posted on 09/17/2011 8:49:49 AM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: george76

Stop the commies now.


30 posted on 09/17/2011 8:52:09 AM PDT by pallis
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To: oldironsides

I do not think you will get much support from SC Congressman Clyburn who was lobbying the state legislature and governor when they were trying to attract Boeing to SC that Boeing be required to hire for the line sufficient percentages that represent the racial diversity of the area.If that were the case I would have to look under the hood of any Boeing plane I was about to board to assure it was not an affirmative action assembly.


31 posted on 09/17/2011 8:58:45 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: fatnotlazy
"Freedom is being taken away from us. About time people woke up."

It's a ratchet! Two paces towards authoritarianism, then the GOP get into power and (maybe) take one step back. And so, we slowly 'progress' towards the left. The GOP - just as power addicted as The Left.

32 posted on 09/17/2011 9:00:05 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: New Jersey Realist
I have learned over the years to discount ANY poll that doesn’t reveal the demographics involved and the questions asked. Pollsters can frame any topic to any desired point of view.

* How closely have followed recent news reports about Boeing and the National Labor Relations Board?

2* Boeing currently operates a plant in Washington state with union workers. The Company wants keep that plant open and open a new plant in South Carolina with non union workers. Should Boeing be able to open a plant in South Carolina with non union workers?

3* The NLRB says Boeing decision to open a new plant in South Carolina with non union workers is an act of retaliation against the union. Should the NLRB be allowed to prevent Boeing from opening a plant in South Carolina?

4* Would you like to belong to a labor union where you work? (Only answered by 499 employed adults)

5* Are you a union member primarily because you support the union or because you are required to join the union where you work? (Only answered by 81 adults who are in a union)

6* If workers do not have labor union at their company, how difficult is it for workers to form a union?

7* Have Labor unions outlasted their usefulness?

Additional information from this survey and a full demographic breakdown are available to Platinum Members only.

33 posted on 09/17/2011 9:02:46 AM PDT by digger48
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To: george76

The 21 are the standard leftist fascists who want govt to control everything. The 15 percent not sure are those who are profoundly ignorant or just afraid to commit to any opinion.


34 posted on 09/17/2011 9:11:27 AM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will have more quality executive experience than Barack Obama.)
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To: george76

Thats pretty sad that its only 64%. For arguments sake, lets say that 10% of the people surveyed were obama supporters and union a**holes. The survey should have been 90% against NLRB and 10% for the union a**holes. Sad indeed.


35 posted on 09/17/2011 9:13:40 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: marktwain

When I read the headline, I thought it said 54% say Boeing should be allowed (my eyes are swollen due to allergies)....hence, my reply about 46% believing a corporation shouldn’t be allowed to operate in whatever State they want to. IMO, as Americans, 100% should believe a corporation can move to whatever State it wants.


36 posted on 09/17/2011 9:16:49 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: econjack

Union thugs.


37 posted on 09/17/2011 9:17:43 AM PDT by onedoug (if)
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To: ken5050
question: I didn’t read much about the House debate on the bill to curtail the NLRB....but did Clyburn speak?...what did he say, if anything coherent?

Another member of the South Carolina delegation, Tim Scott, authored the bill. It's one sentence long (the executive summary is four sentences). It passed with a margin of 25 (map courtesy of NYT — see where the scum is).

Last December, Mr. Scott declined an invitation to join the CBC.

38 posted on 09/17/2011 9:18:23 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ken5050

I saw your post on the Voting Rights Act and I agree with you.


39 posted on 09/17/2011 9:22:23 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright
If you look at the next Dem House caucus..it will be smaller, and much more hard left/liberal..and because of seniority will be dominated by many members of the CBC as ranking members..the Dems, unlike the GOP, will NOT eliminate seniority because the CBC would revolt..and they can't afford to antagonzie their largest voting block..

It's like a monopoly..the VRA perpetuates it...and it is time to bust it wide open..

40 posted on 09/17/2011 9:26:36 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the EARTH...it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: jonno

“1 in 5 people polled are idiots - great... “

Scarier is the fact that they vote and procreate — not necessarily in that order.


41 posted on 09/17/2011 9:47:23 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("I know that God's tomorrow will be better than today!" A. H. Ackley)
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To: NavyCanDo

“Go out to the shop and ask the same question to them and you will flip the poll result.”

Does that mean that they’d rather have no job, than have a good job in SC?


42 posted on 09/17/2011 9:50:01 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("I know that God's tomorrow will be better than today!" A. H. Ackley)
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To: MayflowerMadam
This has nothing to do with them getting a job in SC. To meet rate, Boeing needed to open up a 2nd line and chose SC. IAM’s argument is this 2nd line had to be kept in WA a Union “closed shop” state. But if they do go on a long strike to try to force the issue, all they are doing is influencing Boeing's where to build decisions in the future.
43 posted on 09/17/2011 10:10:06 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: george76
Funny. The EPA and the IRS can open facilities wherever they wish and no one says boo.

ML/NJ

44 posted on 09/17/2011 11:00:15 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: NavyCanDo

Oh; I was just asking. Didn’t know. DH worked for Boeing for 25+ years, but wasn’t union. (I’ll never “get” the union mentality.)


45 posted on 09/18/2011 8:28:10 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("I know that God's tomorrow will be better than today!" A. H. Ackley)
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To: george76

21% of Americans don’t believe in freedom. Sad.


46 posted on 09/18/2011 9:24:34 AM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: george76

I agree with the 64%.


47 posted on 09/19/2011 10:14:49 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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