Skip to comments.Poll: Perry Leads Romney by 7 Points
Posted on 09/17/2011 1:46:06 PM PDT by Clairity
A CBS News/New York Times poll taken from September 10th-15th (both before and after the most recent debate) shows Rick Perry with a 7-point edge (23 to 16 percent) over Mitt Romney among registered voters who intend to vote in a Republican primary or caucus.
Among the roughly half (49 percent) of Republican primary voters "who support the Tea Party movement," Perry has by far the highest net favorability rating (+53 percent),
Of note, Sarah Palin's net favorability rating is only +12 percent among Tea Party-supporting Republicans.
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. Guard the Borders!! .... "Gard a sil?"
I think Sarah needs to run 3rd party. She is underwater with Repubs, so screw em.
Again, what is PerryCare? I live in Texas and have never heard of it.
So what is it? It was a question.
Here's Romney's problem ~ 12 year old girls and sexual matters, and although we all know LDS has nothing to do with FLDS, every Mormon believes the general public does not differentiate between the two varieties.
Therefore, so goes Mormon thinking, if Romney says anything that'll simply tie him to the FLDS problem. It logically follows that he retains position as long as he is quiet.
Unfortunately for Romney everybody knows FLDS has nothing to do with LDS, so by remaining silent it looks like he's some sort of doufous UNWILLING to get involved in popular and/or important disputes ~ and that just put him 7 pts behind Perry.
Again, for every candidate it is IMPORTANT ~ VITAL EVEN ~ to appear to be willing to leap to the defense of women and children ~ even if you sound irrational. Otherwise you will be viewed by EVERYONE as unfit for office.
Independents are irrelevant ~ most of the time and especially so in this election.
Yes, Mr. Chamberlain.
Just like you. How bout that!
[Of note, Sarah Palin’s net favorability rating is only +12 percent among Tea Party-supporting Republicans.]
I find that impossible to believe. Is there, perhaps, some sort of backlash because people think she’s not running? If so, that would change if she got in the race.
Perry has proposed bi-national health insurance with Mexico:
What people care about is JOBS.
Unemployment Re-Emerges as Most Important Problem in U.S.
People who care about unemployment/jobs and the economy, which is intertwined, is 67%
You can keep spouting “gardasil” all you want to.
If you can’t come up with anything more serious against Perry, you are just shouting yourself horse and nobody cares.
Total Respondents 1452
Total Registered Voters 1356
Total Republicans* 781 383 (26%)
Total Democrats 315 485 (33%)
Total Independents 356 584 (41%)
*This survey included an oversample of self-identified Republicans.
Let me get this straight, they weight the poll responses to include 26% Reps and 36% D? Totally overweighted the Rats.
One paragraph from a speech over 10 years ago about a “study” is not a policy. Once again, what is PerryCare?
Palin’s statements are given more attention because several are under the impression she is a prospective candidate for office. An impression she feeds to her own benefit with less benefit to the conservative cause or Republican electoral success. As long as she retains this conflict of interest you can be annoyed from sunrise to sundown for all I care. I will criticize her for this selfish game she is playing and so will the majority of the base that is also fed up with the woman right now.
You just want to be angry with ~ me ~ it has nothing to do with politics.
“You just want to be angry with ~ me’
I hate to disappoint you, but you are vastly overrting your own importance. An anonymous poster on internet is less than a speck of dust in influencing my emotions.
Palins statements are given more attention because several are under the impression she is a prospective candidate for office.
Gee, if it's only several people that are under the impression that she is a prospective candidate, then it can't be more than several people who are giving here statements more attention.
An impression she feeds to her own benefit with less benefit to the conservative cause or Republican electoral success.
Really? Last I looked, Palin hasn't written a book or made another TV program and has made very few paid speeches over the last year. It seems to me that she would have been doing more of that, if she was out for her own benefit to the detriment of conservatives. I would also add that there was no political figure who worked harder in the last election cycle trying to elect conservatives (and Republicans).
As long as she retains this conflict of interest you can be annoyed from sunrise to sundown for all I care. I will criticize her for this selfish game she is playing and so will the majority of the base that is also fed up with the woman right now.
You accuse her of retaining a conflict of interest and playing a selfish game but you have failed to prove your point.
Seriously you'd best see to their well-being. I posted all sorts of very positive things today about your boy Perry, but I gather since I didn't get down and genuflect and ask him to let me KHB that's not good enough?
Your elitism will lose the election FUR SHUR.
I still believe the uninformed primary voters will flock to Mittens.
Can you find any poll of the general public in the last 2 years where her negatives are not above 50%? Leaving out internet polls and polls form groups like C4P...
Michele has passed Paul in the flake race.
Santorum has no chance.
Huntsman & Mitt are not worth mentioning.
Newt is looking good but he doesn't have a chance either.
Cain is looking real good. If Perry fizzles, which I don't think will happen, he's got my vote.
I fail to see the problem with this idea. Wouldn't it be better to allow insurance companies sell to insurance to people in border areas that can be used on either side of the border? A lot of border people travel back and forth across the border, and if they get sick/hurt, it would be much better if their insurance could pay the bill, rather than taxpayers. All in all, sounds like a pretty conservative idea to me.
Perry, Romney, Bachmann, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I WANT TO SEE FIRE! Cane is fire! West is fire! Yeah, and Palin if she decides to run, is fire, the rest are just fizzle.
Most doctors all agree, that the current Politicians in power are the easiest to operate on. There’s no guts, no heart, no gonads, no brains, and no spine. Plus, the head and the butt are interchangeable. :o)
Bingo. I totally agree. She should have served out her term. Immediately after leaving her position, she started touring the country on a book tour and suddenly appeared on FOX as a commentator. Looks opportunistic and a quick chance to cash in. Dont blame her, but stay out of politics and stop leading on your supporters.
I agree she took the wrong route if she had wanted to run for POTUS this time around, but I get angry when I think back to Karl Rove's commentaries we heard over and over again right after her VP run in 2008. I remember him telling the world Sarah Palin would be well served for a Presidential run if she would take some time to "brush up on things... go see the world and talk to people all over the world... get a news commentator's position and gain some visibility and use it to become better educated on issues... get speaking engagements to show others who she is and what she knows"...
Well Sarah Palin DID all that, almost exactly what I remember Karl Rove sitting on his FOX News high horse said over and over again right after that VP run, and where did it get her?
It took her out of her office, putting her in a position to have to defend why she did not stick it out, and it has put her in a position where she now has to fight appearances of being money hungry (FOX $1 million year contract, speaking fees, etc.), and it has put her in a position of having to defend why she is out there all the time going places and speaking everywhere.
The more I see what has happened to Sarah Palin's public perception during the presidential race, the more I get angry thinking Karl Rove set her up for such a time as this.
Sarah Palin never changed, but how people saw her did.
Coulter, Ingraham and Huckabee all said Romney will be the nominee this week. We’ll see.
Well, if that's the case, I can't say I blame her. It shows she's as smart as we thought she was. I like her, but she's not exactly winning "Miss Popularity" these days with Republican voters. She's young, she has an important role to play in the conservative movement, but elective office will have to be in some future cycle.
Here's the five top bullet points from the poll:
The 2012 Race for the Republican Nomination
September 10-15, 2011
In a turnaround from four years ago, Republicans are more enthusiastic than Democrats about voting in 2012 compared to past elections.
At this early stage in the race for the Republican nomination, Rick Perry (23%) leads Mitt Romney (16%) nationally by 7 points. All other candidates support is in single digits. One in five Republican primary voters are undecided.
A majority of both Perry and Romneys supporters have reservations about their candidate.
Republican primary voters divide on whether its more important to have a nominee who shares their views on the issues (48%) or one who can beat Barack Obama in 2012 (48%).
Sarah Palin receives her highest unfavorable rating (62%) in this poll since CBS News began asking about her in 2008. And for the first time, more Republicans now view her unfavorably than favorably.
You used to have some wisdom. What happened?
And fwiw, some of us can renew our respect for you ability to do so.
Perry certainly isn't a perfect man or perfect candidate, but who is?
“And for the first time, more Republicans now view her unfavorably than favorably.
People eventually get sick of being strung along.
I think you should maybe check the statistics on that.
I think you should maybe check the statistics on that.
Had Sarah Palin served out her term, her family would be millions in debt or bankrupt right now. With no money problems, she can do what she wants now. And I don’t think she has ever been all that hot to run for President. She did far more for the conservative cause supporting other candidates that she would have done as a Governor swamped with bogus ethics charges. Bur she needs to make it official that she isn’t running, the sooner the better.
It's simple. The math behind elections in first past the pole single member districts pretty much dictates no more than two effect poles to which all factions with a political interest are attracted. and around which they divide.
Groups of factions cluster around those two poles. Currently we call one Republican and the other Democrat.
Candidates are belched up from within the two groups after negotiations (or even primaries) between and among all the constituent factions.
That's where the candidates come from. Whether or not they get financing is pretty much decided by the factions ~ and that can be a real problem from time to time.
In all cases a winning candidate must be attractive to the Democrat or Republican "base:, as well as at least one faction in the other party or "pole".
The people who do not participate in this process are OUT OF THE GAME. They may vote in primaries but if they chose to run a candidate outside of the party main stream the candidate will undoubtedly lose due to lack of financial backing (unless he's really rich).
Independents do not count in this process. They don't really count in the general elections either ~ they are a thin fringe. There are, however, many Democrats who claim they are INDEPENDENTS because that gets them off the mailing lists and the telephone calls. Republicans can be found who will do this too, but to a lesser degree.
Effectively, when you count the Democrats with the Independents you come up with more than there are Republicans. However, Republicans continue to win elections on a broad basis by appealing to their base AND to different factions within the Democrat base (depending on district and part of the country).
Political parties pay for internal polls ~ the results of which they never reveal. That polling is much more precise and meaningful than the public polls which are usually conducted by and on behalf of political interest groups.
Most of the polls matching up Obama and various Republican candidates are done for the purpose of manipulating Republican opinion.
She’s running the only question is she running third party.If she runs third party the Republicans are history.
It was actually a study he was requesting.
This was 10 years ago.
It was so that health care providers in America could treat those across the border and get paid for it from the Mexican Nationals.
A lot of people in the United States don’t realize it but there are lots and lots of Mexican Nationals who actually have money. They spend their money here in Texas.
If you go to the Valley (south Tx), you will see Mexican Nationals here shopping and vacationing. And they come to Houston to be treated for medical conditions also. Our Hospitals, Doctors and Clinics are better than most of theirs. I did some work for a Houston Plastic Surgeon and was surprised at how many people from Mexico were coming here for ? facelifts ? boob jobs?
They are legally here vacationing, shopping or getting medical care and they pay for it with their own money in US Dollars.
I sold a house one time to a couple from Mexico. It was their vacation home here in Texas. It was a huge Mediterranean on several acres. It was pricey.
The malls in south Tx are full of Mexican Nationals spending money like crazy.
All Mexicans are not illegals and all Mexicans are not poor.
In fact, Mexico is one of Texas biggest importers and trade partners. They buy a lot from Texas.
I think you are correct to a certain degree,however, you leave out one fact. There are simply a very large group of people who do not pay attention to politics every day. Most of these people are simply too busy. They do not follow the daily developments of the political scenes. I know many people in this category. Theses people are what we call the Independents. They often do not consider themselves particularly Republican or Democrat, although they may lean one way more than the other. The party that ignores them usually loses, in fact, it always loses.
Tell them how great a vacation in Jamaica can be in early November.
Wish I may, wish I might, make my Palinwish come true tonight. Same as WISH IN ONE HAND.............
Maybe you are right about that; I don't know. All I can say is that I feel like Karl Rove did his best to give her bad advice, and that angers me when I think that.
You are right that Sarah Palin has done a lot for the conservative cause these last few years. She is also a wonderful historical figure that has done a lot for our party and our country. I hope she will be able to continue those contributions as only a woman like she can do.
Wrong. I have not heard a single Perry supporter run Palin down. The turd is more correctly some Palin supporters who act more like rabid paul supporters in contrast to the honest and honorable way Palin has conducted herself.
For one I have from day one wanted Palin to run, her wishy-washy game has reduced her in my eyes, but I can understand her emphasis is on her family’s welfare.
Wasting your breathe, this guy is really a paulnut unrestrained by fact or logic. A pure disrupter. He claims to be a Palinwisher, but its a convienent cover because JimRob hate paulnuts.
And you got plenty of company.
FREEPER NO DEMS POSTED: " My Governor, Rick Perry, is the light-weight everyone is going orgasmic over. It won't be long before people see what a dolt he is, who doesn't have the moxie or the smarts to kick a** in a debate. Not to mention all of Perry's corrupt baggage. Those of us in Texas who've been around during his 22 years as a Professional Politician, know that if nominated, Obama will have another 4 years in the White House. Perry's skeletons haven't even begun to come out of the closet. "
How this phony fraud Perry fooled so many is really hard to believe. Perry has a curious string of unbroken wins in Texas that would be hard to achieve elsewhere....plus a mighty presidential war chest of million and millions of dollars, apparently accumulated when he said he WAS NOT running for president.
Watching him in action, I get the feeling Texans don't have much say in the matter of Perry being elected to anything in Texas.......and he's climbing over the backs of Americans to achieve his presidential ambitions.
BACKSTORY Perry did not officially enter the Iowa straw poll......but he calculatedly timed throwing his hat in the ring on the same day Bachman won the Iowa straw poll----stomping all over Bachman's hard-won victory.
Perry cunningly manipulated the Iowa vote from Texas. That strategy was supposed to put him over the top. Instead he got a pathetic 700-800 write-ins ...while Iowa winners who did the right thing-spending time and money there- got 4000 votes each.
The Perrydactyl's were cued to "say" Ricky won Iowa. And there Perry was----front and center---waving to Iowans, taking pics in front of prominent Iowa banners---manipulating the media to make it look like he was the winner.
The winner in his own mind.
"No Ma'am," Perry replied the other day when asked whether he signed on to support Obama's $800 Bill TARP giveaway.......even as the letter w/ Perry's signature goes viral.
Sucking up to illegals is a HUGE game-changer for Perry. Fox news clip showed Frank Luntz's responders as resoundingly pro-Perry UNTIL amnesty raised its ugly head. The responders suggested that Perry's sucking up to illegals disqualifies him for the presidency. Perry was cheered UNTIL the amnesty question surfaced---that's when he was loudly booed by the Tea Party debate audience.
"Captain Gardasil" addresses La Raza.
"Come on down. You get in-state tuition at any Texas college, government
checks made out to all your identities, and 'raza studies' in every school."
RAZA STUDIES: Anti-Americanism Disguised as Ethnic Studies
Townhall.com ^ | August 27, 2011 | Rachel Alexander
FR Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 by Kaslin
The Tucson Unified School District (TUSD) is in a contentious fight with the state of Arizona over its controversial Mexican-American Studies program---known as raza studies,---- agit-prop of the far left La Raza, coming to a school near you. A state law went into effect in Arizona on January 1, 2011, banning the teaching of ethnic studies in K-12 schools. It was prompted by an investigation into TUSDs ethnic studies curriculum by Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne when he was State Superintendent of Schools.
The program is known as raza studies, which means race studies, championed by organizations like the far left organization National Council of La Raza. The course does not simply teach Latino youth about their heritage, it goes well beyond that. The textbooks teach Latino youth that they are mistreated by America, training them to become radical anti-American activists.
Textbooks include The Pedagogy of the Oppressed and Occupied America. Another text "gloats over the difficulties our country is having at enforcing its immigration laws." Benjamin Franklin is vilified as a racist. White people are referred to as gringos and oppressors of Latino people. Privilege is described as related to a persons ethnicity.
At a TUSD school board meeting on May 10, one upset mother read excerpts from the textbook An Epic Poem: " My land is lost and stolen, My culture has been raped......we have to destroy capitalism
overthrow a government that has committed abuses
.to the bloodsuckers, the parasites, the vampires who are the capitalists of the world: The schools are tools of the power structure that blind and sentence our youth to a life of confusion, and hypocrisy, one that preaches assimilation and practices institutional racism."--SNIP--
Thank you for a dose of sanity.
In previous election cycles were you an Alan Keyes supporter, as well?
That would make sense because we are trying to win an election against Obama and she is doing Greta’s show sniping away at our side.That would naturally make all supporters of the six candidates now running dislike her more and more. Hence her own favorability drops.
I don't live by the polls, but they are fairly accurate. Go to RealClearPolitics.com and check out the polls from the last few elections, they are almost all spot on.
I'm talking about polls for example 13 months before an election. I'm not talking about the final election polls and polls close to an election.
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