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Hardball: Why the Tea Party Loves Rick Perry
MSNBC Video ^ | September 13, 2011 | CHRIS MATTHEWS

Posted on 09/17/2011 2:08:53 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gardasilperry; hardball; perry; perry2012; rinoperry; rinorick; teaparty
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1 posted on 09/17/2011 2:08:57 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
I have no intention of clicking a link and watching that Hairball Clown puke up yet another insanity.

Summarize please?

2 posted on 09/17/2011 2:11:33 PM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Does “The Tea Party” love Rick Perry?


3 posted on 09/17/2011 2:12:26 PM PDT by chickadee
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Nice cartoon, but I couldn’t stomach more than a minute of Chrissy Matthews and that idiot Donny Deutsch.


4 posted on 09/17/2011 2:14:44 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: Lazamataz

Let me guess, LeftBall (and the media) are trying to pick who should be the Republican Candidate?


5 posted on 09/17/2011 2:14:44 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: shield

Perry ping


6 posted on 09/17/2011 2:14:55 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: chickadee

I wouldn’t say we love him. I think many of us could live with him, at least more so than Romney, in spite of the things we don’t like about him.


7 posted on 09/17/2011 2:15:20 PM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

The Tea Party does NOT like Rick Perry OR mitt Romney. They are RINO’s, and therefore part of the PROBLEM.


8 posted on 09/17/2011 2:16:17 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

And, obviously, you speak for the tea party? Impressive if true (not)


9 posted on 09/17/2011 2:17:43 PM PDT by MN_Mike (ObamACORN, BelaPelosi, and Howie Screed - Trangle of Doom)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Yeah honestly I'm undecided, but this technique is called PUSHING THE BANDWAGON.
10 posted on 09/17/2011 2:23:05 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Lazamataz

watch first guest Johnny Deutsch sp?....compare Perry to Reagan ....repubs want a fighter....Perry is only one that projected Jimmy Cagney like toughness....Matthews agreed...wishes dems had someone like Perry


11 posted on 09/17/2011 2:23:23 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: Son House
Let me guess, LeftBall (and the media) are trying to pick who should be the Republican Candidate?

Yep. Here we go again. That means, of course, they think they can beat him.

12 posted on 09/17/2011 2:23:49 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

I think Chris’s observation is interesting, and accurate.


13 posted on 09/17/2011 2:25:19 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

For the record, as a Tea Party activist, I love Sarah.


14 posted on 09/17/2011 2:25:23 PM PDT by HotKat
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To: Danae

You don’t speak for the Tea Party.

Anecdotal evidence suggests Perry is their choice. But you know what? It’s not just them. They take a lot of the headlines but the social right and just “conservatives” have melded around him quite a bit too. There is overlap between these groups but not completely.

Now as for Chris Matthews I refuse to watch him but will say I don’t love him. I just support him because I think he’s well...not as conservative as me but more so then Bush so it’ ll move us a few degrees to the right from where Bush left off even if not as far as I want to go. And if MMitt doesn’t succeed in destroying his mainstream appeal Perry can win whereas the other options cannot.


15 posted on 09/17/2011 2:25:53 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

I am a Tea Party group founder , organizer and rally leader ,and I am not impressed with Rick Perry .
I see him as weak on illegal immigration .
But at least he is a Vet . I would vote for any Vet over any lawyer any day ....


16 posted on 09/17/2011 2:27:30 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: HotKat

She’s not running.


17 posted on 09/17/2011 2:28:31 PM PDT by NakedRampage (Fortis cadere, cedere non potest (A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield))
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To: MN_Mike

Did you view the interview with Deutsch? Both matthews and deutsch are libs......they admire perry for his toughness....wish they had a fighter like perry on there side.


18 posted on 09/17/2011 2:30:22 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: wolfpat

Agreed. However, we are still hoping for a better choice, right? Maybe Ryan/Rubio. (I keep saying it, hoping it will come true:)


19 posted on 09/17/2011 2:31:13 PM PDT by chickadee
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Chrissy hates Tea Party patriots and anyone who might destroy his beloved BO.

What’s not to love about that;)


20 posted on 09/17/2011 2:33:55 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Which is why the GOP would be smart to choice neither in 2012


21 posted on 09/17/2011 2:35:17 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Son House
Let me guess, LeftBall (and the media) are trying to pick who should be the Republican Candidate?

nope....they are scared to death of perry......he has the reagan toughness.....romney's a little girl and can be easily rolled.

22 posted on 09/17/2011 2:36:39 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

I don't put much stock in the statement that the Tea Party loves Perry. Of my Tea Party compatriots, the nicest thing I've heard said about Perry is that he isn't "as bad as Romney". After which I'm quick to point out, with the re-election of Obama guaranteed to fail, why on Earth would we set our mark at Romney's level for "good enough"? Perry's healthcare position and immigration positions are awful. He was boo'd on stage by Tea Party-ers while voicing his stance on illegal immigration. Those are two very, very, very large chunks of government spending and we are Taxed Enough Already. I suggest we support a candidate we would not boo.


23 posted on 09/17/2011 2:38:38 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
The Tea Party loves Rick Perry?

The TP does not agree with Perry on the big-government, nanny-state Gardasil debacle.

The TP does not agree with Perry on his opposition to the border fence.

The TP does not agree with Perry on his opposition to Arizona trying to defend itself from the ILLEGAL hordes that he wants to make citizens.

The TP opposed Perry on the TTC.

The TP does not support Perry’s warped view that anyone opposing instate tuition for ILLEGAL aliens does so because of the ILLEGAL aliens’ last names.

The TP did not agree with Obama and Pelosi’s stimulus bailout plan yet Perry took stimulus cash anyway.

Rick Perry is a big government, progressive neocon candidate much the same as Mitt Romney ;he is a fraud and anything but in line with the TP's core principles.


24 posted on 09/17/2011 2:38:58 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry = The Other McCain)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Hardball: Why the Tea Party Loves Rick Perry

Got news for you Chris, the tea party does not love Perry. It's the status quo, Clinton wing of the Republican party that loves him. The ones who don't give a damn how much corruption is in government as long as it's the Republicans reaping the benefits of it.

25 posted on 09/17/2011 2:39:00 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: South40

Who is your candidate, then?


26 posted on 09/17/2011 2:41:10 PM PDT by NakedRampage (Fortis cadere, cedere non potest (A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield))
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To: Danae
The Tea Party does NOT like Rick Perry OR mitt Romney. They are RINO’s, and therefore part of the PROBLEM.

Absolutely true. Beware anyone who says anything to the contrary, especially one of the most liberal networks on television, MSNBC.

27 posted on 09/17/2011 2:41:15 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry = The Other McCain)
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To: upsdriver
Tea Party favors Perry
28 posted on 09/17/2011 2:45:01 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: NakedRampage

I am a Tea Party activist and I am currently undecided. When I do choose a candidate I will choose the most conservative candidate possible — and that, by default, eliminates the pro-ILLEGAL alien RINO by name of Ricardo Perrinista.


29 posted on 09/17/2011 2:45:30 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry = The Other McCain)
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To: South40
If the primary were held today, the most Tea Party votes would go to Perry, followed by Romney then Bachmann. In a heads-up race between the two, Perry would pull in 59 percent of the vote.

per my link

30 posted on 09/17/2011 2:47:31 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: Danae
>>>>>The Tea Party does NOT like Rick Perry OR mitt Romney.<<<<<<

Poll Data: Good - Bad - Ugly


        Views of Republican Presidential Candidates
          Rep Primary Voters  -   Tea Party Rep Primary Voters

                      Don’t know/                Don’t know/
          Fav. Unfav. Undecided      Fav. Unfav. Undecided
Romney    45%   17      37           45%   22       33
Perry     44%    9      47           59%    6       35
Gingrich  38%   33      28           49%   30       21
Bachmann  35%   21      43           50%   17       33
Cain      30%   10      60           45%   10       44
Paul      21%   34      45           26    40       34
Santorum  15%   13      71           25%   15       60
Huntsman  10%   21      68           12%   30       58

31 posted on 09/17/2011 2:47:51 PM PDT by deport
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To: South40
The most conservative candidate available seems to be Perry.

I'm not on here to shill for him - I'm not a huge fan of his...But he's better than Romney, Palin seemingly isn't running and Bachmann and the rest don't stand a chance.

Unless someone else pops up, quick, then the choice is taken from us.

32 posted on 09/17/2011 2:48:36 PM PDT by NakedRampage (Fortis cadere, cedere non potest (A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield))
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To: deport

Cain is doing well considering his recent entry into politics.


33 posted on 09/17/2011 2:50:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been Redistributed. Here's your damn Change!)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Polls are not intended to measure public opinion but to shape it.

Try thinking for yourself and stop listening to what media organizations tell you.

34 posted on 09/17/2011 2:54:29 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry = The Other McCain)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Perry did admittedly give vocal support to the Tea Party early in the game, well before most other politians, and I give him credit for that. however, being a part of the Tea movement from it’s earliest days here in my corner of Texas, my observation was that Perry was not particularly popular with the folks. He was ‘tolerated’ at best.


35 posted on 09/17/2011 2:55:19 PM PDT by greene66
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To: NakedRampage
The most conservative candidate available seems to be Perry.

In your world, maybe.

36 posted on 09/17/2011 2:55:33 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry = The Other McCain)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

What? I do? When did that happen? news to me!!


37 posted on 09/17/2011 2:58:49 PM PDT by GregB (Sarah Palin is the answer to our prayers!!!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That means, of course, they think they can beat him.
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That’s because they can. The guy has not been completely vetted. That’s all this native Texan is gonna say.


38 posted on 09/17/2011 2:59:47 PM PDT by no dems (No matter who it might be, when I find out a person is a Democrat, I lose respect for them.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan; South40
The Tea Party doesn't love Rick Perry, why are they lying?

Jerry DeLemus, chairman of the Granite State Patriots Liberty PAC, a tea party umbrella group, described the Texas answer as “wrong-headed” and a “big negative” against Perry’s White House hopes. Katrina Pierson, a member of the Dallas Tea Party’s steering committee, said “Governor Perry has not met the standards, for me, to be the President of the United States if he can’t even address the real issues here in Texas.”

I particularly liked South40's post from another thread.

Rick Perry Tea Party?

The TP does not agree with Perry on the big-government, nanny-state Gardasil debacle.

The TP does not agree with Perry on his opposition to the border fence.

The TP does not agree with Perry on his opposition to Arizona trying to defend itself from the ILLEGAL hordes that he wants to make citizens.

The TP opposed Perry on the TTC.

The TP does not support Perry’s warped view that anyone opposing instate tuition for ILLEGAL aliens does so because of the ILLEGAL aliens’ last names.

The TP did not agree with Obama and Pelosi’s stimulus bailout plan yet Perry took stimulus cash anyway.

Rick Perry is a big government, progressive neocon candidate much the same as Mitt Romney ;he is a fraud and anything but in line with the TP's core principles.


15 posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 4:53:37 PM by South40 (Rick Perry = The Other McCain)

39 posted on 09/17/2011 3:01:39 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: South40

Please name a more conservative candidate that has a chance of winning, that I may throw my insignificant support behind him/her.


40 posted on 09/17/2011 3:01:53 PM PDT by NakedRampage (Fortis cadere, cedere non potest (A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield))
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To: deport

lol there is a Huntsman fan on FR that will not like those numbers! shhh don’t tell


41 posted on 09/17/2011 3:07:27 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: South40
Polls are not intended to measure public opinion but to shape it. Try thinking for yourself and stop listening to what media organizations tell you.

LOL......the MSM hates and fears perry..... they love romney....i make my judgements on a mans courage.....romney has no balls ....perry is tough....he has what it takes......he's not perfect on some positions and plays a little too much texan cronyism..... but on most issues he will be strong. palin is a good choice as his vp or in his cabinet.


42 posted on 09/17/2011 3:08:54 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: NakedRampage
Both Bachmann and Cain are more conservative as is Palin should she decide to run. As for who has "a chance of winning", I think given Obama's abysmal record they all have a chance. Do you really buy into the leftist media polls that say they don't? Why do you think they tell you that? It's because they don't want them to win and because they want Perry. Why would that be?

I don't allow the leftist media to decide for me, I'll decide on my own. It's a shame more 'conservatives' don't do the same.

43 posted on 09/17/2011 3:09:01 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry = The Other McCain)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

I’m not so shallow as to be influenced by an endorsement. Do you think McCain deserved to be reelected; Palin endorsed him too.


44 posted on 09/17/2011 3:10:42 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry = The Other McCain)
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To: South40

You’re hyperventilating again.

The law you are so upset about was passed by the Republican led Texas Legislature with only a HANDFUL of dissenting votes. It was a near unanimous decision.

But you don’t seem to care about that.


45 posted on 09/17/2011 3:13:53 PM PDT by o2bfree
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To: South40

Re-read your own posts carefully, especially #43; therein lays the answers to your own questions.


46 posted on 09/17/2011 3:15:01 PM PDT by NakedRampage (Fortis cadere, cedere non potest (A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield))
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To: South40
Do you think McCain deserved to be reelected; Palin endorsed him too.

palin endorsed him out of a sense of gratitude.... nothing more.... it was the classy thing to do.

47 posted on 09/17/2011 3:17:17 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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To: chickadee

Not so much yet...But give the media time to keep pushing Romney and Perry as the “Only” electable canidates! The Tea Partiers in SC I talk to like CAIN...(As do I...as well as Bachmann)


48 posted on 09/17/2011 3:17:17 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: o2bfree
The law you are so upset about was passed by the Republican led Texas Legislature with only a HANDFUL of dissenting votes.

Am I supposed to be impressed by that? Firstly, I don't believe anyone in the Texas legislature is seeking the Republican nomination. But if they were, I wouldn't vote to nominate any of them, either.

And I don't hyperventilate; that you would make such an asinine comment about me personally reveals you really don't think your argument carries much weight. And you're right, it carries none.

49 posted on 09/17/2011 3:19:38 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry = The Other McCain)
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To: jakerobins
The Tea Partiers in SC I talk to like CAIN...(As do I...as well as Bachmann)

we all like cain and bachmann......but the choice will come down to romney vs perry.....that's reality.

50 posted on 09/17/2011 3:20:58 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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