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Plane Crashes at West Virginia Air Show
FOX ^ | 09/17/11 | FOX

Posted on 09/17/2011 6:47:33 PM PDT by Doogle

MARTINSBURG, W.Va. -- A plane crashed Saturday at an air show in Martinsburg, W.Va., FOX News Channel reported.

Kimmie Shipley, a spokeswoman for the West Virginia University Hospital said that there are no fatalities as a result of the crash other than the pilot.

There were no initial reports of injuries in the crowd.

West Virginia Air National Guard spokesman Lt. Nathan Mueller said the T-28 aircraft crashed while it performed during a routine at the Thunder over the Blue Ridge Open House and Air Show in Martinsburg. Mueller did not have any details on the pilot's condition.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: airshow; aviation; planecrash
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1 posted on 09/17/2011 6:47:41 PM PDT by Doogle
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To: Doogle

Huh? Another one? Where’s the third going to be? Bad things happen in threes.


2 posted on 09/17/2011 6:52:40 PM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: Doogle

3 posted on 09/17/2011 6:54:48 PM PDT by Trueblackman (Posting on FR since 1998 and 100% teleprompter free post as well.)
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To: Doogle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwCUhw5Gn_4


5 posted on 09/17/2011 6:55:40 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

http://www.t28trojanfoundation.com/planes.html


6 posted on 09/17/2011 6:57:11 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: tips up

I wonder if we read about air show crashes as often as they happen....


7 posted on 09/17/2011 6:59:08 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Trueblackman

I like them, closest thing to a Bearcat and they are 2 seaters. Condolences to the Pilot’s loved ones.


8 posted on 09/17/2011 7:00:13 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: Doogle
West Virginia University Hospital said that there are no fatalities as a result of the crash other than the pilot...Mueller did not have any details on the pilot's condition.

I think it suffices to say that he died in the crash.

9 posted on 09/17/2011 7:02:53 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Good point. Instant news with the 24 hrs news cycle.


10 posted on 09/17/2011 7:09:23 PM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: Doogle
Stupid news reporting... Lt. "Mueller did not have any details on the pilot's condition"... except that the report said the pilot died. ???

RIP Sir...


11 posted on 09/17/2011 7:09:35 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: tips up
The Blue Angels have been flying over my house the last two days, and will perform again tomorrow. I couldn't help but say a prayer for their safety and also the fans.

What a great sight.

The sound of FREEDOM!

12 posted on 09/17/2011 7:10:31 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Doogle

Was this a CAF aircraft?


13 posted on 09/17/2011 7:10:52 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: treetopsandroofs

There was a Red Bull stunt plane at the Motorcycle Grand Prix race at Indianapolis last month. That guy was friggin’ amazing. But any type of mechanical failure on the plane would be instant death, because they fly so close to the ground a good bit of the time.


14 posted on 09/17/2011 7:11:15 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Deaf Smith

http://www.t28trojanfoundation.com/index.html


15 posted on 09/17/2011 7:14:42 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

I’ve had enough. 7 day waiting period on air shows. stop the killing of innocents.


16 posted on 09/17/2011 7:18:37 PM PDT by Lance Romance
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To: ClearCase_guy

That plane would be expensive to replace!


17 posted on 09/17/2011 7:20:28 PM PDT by reg45
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To: nascarnation

here ya go, remember this...*smiles*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jJmXcclb_Q


18 posted on 09/17/2011 7:23:46 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Lance Romance
7 day waiting period on air shows

What, plane control?
Look, when you outlaw planes, only outlaws will fly!

19 posted on 09/17/2011 7:37:52 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: Doogle
Thanks.

I'll have to check to see if that Jack Mangan at the Lancaster, Texas airport two weeks ago.

20 posted on 09/17/2011 7:44:02 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: Deaf Smith

I beleive the Navy still fly them as trainers. One went into Corpus Christi Bay last month.


21 posted on 09/17/2011 7:55:39 PM PDT by dusttoyou (paulnutz/bachnutz/palinwishers are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Doogle

Next air show, I’m wearing my folding chair on my head.


22 posted on 09/17/2011 8:02:52 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: treetopsandroofs
I wonder if we read about air show crashes as often as they happen...

I saw one at the NAS Oceana Air Show in September of 2007. There was no national news and the air show continued after a hour delay.

I just went back and read some info on the net about the crash that day. The 74 year old pilot had lied about heart problems to keep his ticket.

23 posted on 09/17/2011 8:10:20 PM PDT by TankerKC (One of the lessons of 9-11 was that evil is real...and so is courage. -George W. Bush 9-11-11)
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To: tips up

This has been a bad year on the airshow circuit; a female wing-walker died in May of burns she received when her stunt plane crashed in March. And, more recently, we had a aerobatic pilot die during a show in Kansas City, and another wing-walker died in Michigan while attempting to transfer from an aircraft to a helicopter(a stunt he performed hundreds of time). The same weekend, a member of the RAF Red Arrows died in a crash in England.

Now, with the disaster in Reno, I’ve actually heard politicians call for more regulation of airshows and performers. Please. Aviation is inherently risky; pilots and other airshow performers make daring maneuvers look routine because of long hours of preparation and exacting standards. Inevitably, accidents will happen and people will die. But we don’t need to regulate airshows and air races out of business.

It’s worth remembering that the two worst airshow disasters in history occurred in Europe, where performing aircraft have long been allowed to fly over crowds and conduct maneuvers that would never be authorized in the States. Airshow pilots, performers and air racers understand the risks they face and are willing to accept the odds. The FAA provides a sufficient level of regulation and supervision. Mourn for the dead, learn from the accidents and move on. That’s the way it has always been in aviation and the way it should be.


24 posted on 09/17/2011 8:12:48 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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To: dusttoyou
I beleive the Navy still fly them as trainers.

I'm pretty sure the T-28s are long gone from active service. T-34 Mentors and T-6 Texan IIs have replaced them, as far as I know.

25 posted on 09/17/2011 8:16:04 PM PDT by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: ExNewsExSpook

Well said.


26 posted on 09/17/2011 8:19:14 PM PDT by He'sComingBack!
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To: ExNewsExSpook

Well said.


27 posted on 09/17/2011 8:19:25 PM PDT by He'sComingBack!
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To: ExNewsExSpook
"I’ve actually heard politicians call for more regulation of airshows and performers."

Politicians gotta "politic". I swear they're all camera whores. Would be nice to find a few to run this country who know when to let well enough alone.

28 posted on 09/17/2011 8:24:56 PM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: Lance Romance

Is it just me or is this entire country undergoing one round of problems after another? So much death that it’s like the Angel of Death is let loose and merrily cutting his scythe through humanity. I wonder why God let him out.


29 posted on 09/17/2011 9:02:03 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: stormhill
Look, when you outlaw planes, only outlaws will fly!

They can use Outlaw Field (TN).

30 posted on 09/17/2011 9:06:18 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ExNewsExSpook

“That’s the way it has always been in aviation and the way it should be.”

That’s the way it should be with everything.


31 posted on 09/17/2011 9:18:05 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: tips up

Already had a crash in Kansas City last month at there airshow. Then a day later a man fell off a plane at their airshow.


32 posted on 09/17/2011 10:01:16 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: tips up

correction: The man who fell off was in Detroit’s airshow.


33 posted on 09/17/2011 10:02:50 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: nascarnation
Here's another amazing RED BULL stunt.

I used to skydive and I think this is absolutely nuts!

34 posted on 09/17/2011 10:12:12 PM PDT by Loud Mime (AJM - 1 Mar 1924 - 17 Sept 2010 - - Thanks Dad!)
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To: Doogle

Just another waste of tax payers money, not much different than building a bike path. Except that people get killed. Poor pilots family.


35 posted on 09/17/2011 10:44:46 PM PDT by org.whodat (so Perry's purchase price starts at $5001.00: and $29,000 , was a sell.)
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To: org.whodat

Waste of money? Shame on you.
One of the most inspiring things to see in this nation.
Aviation is a major part of why this nation is what it is.

Airshows will never stop. Never. It’s in our blood as Americans to fly, it’s a celebration of freedom that this nation gives us and those that defend it. It inspires people to join the military, it inspires people to become engineers and pilots.

The money spent on them is tiny for what they give back.


36 posted on 09/18/2011 12:10:24 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Doogle
On the video it looks as though he might have clipped the other aircraft or he became disoriented because of a hazy obscured horizon.

It is very disconcerting that all these accidents are happening to high time very proficient pilots . These war bird planes are also high time aircraft and may have metal fatigue. The P 51 in Reno seems to have lost a control surface and the accident in Kansas city looked like the pilot had a G-loc.

Condolences to the families of these brave men and women who push the limits of aviation.

37 posted on 09/18/2011 12:14:32 AM PDT by pterional
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Yes sure, attendance is right up there with football. Dang, !!?! Sac intended.


38 posted on 09/18/2011 4:48:16 AM PDT by org.whodat (so Perry's purchase price starts at $5001.00: and $29,000 , was a sell.)
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To: Deaf Smith
Was this a CAF aircraft?

Unless they have changed their ways recently, the CAF was only 1939-1945 aircraft.

I used to maintain a T-33A and a T-28C for a private owner and he had to fight to get fuel credits for airshows with the T-33 because he proved that the F-80 actually flew in Italy in 1945 however the T-28 was never accepted by the CAF because it was a '50's vintage trainer for the strait winged Navy Fury and the Air Force F-86 Sabre Jet.

The T-28 is very comfortable aircraft to fly.

39 posted on 09/18/2011 6:25:00 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: org.whodat
Just another waste of tax payers money,...

In a pigs eye!!

40 posted on 09/18/2011 6:26:54 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Niuhuru

It is not just you - I live in upstate New York and the aftermath from Irene’s floods were of biblical proportions in many communities.

Irene - ire - anger

God let satan out in the garden first - Satan is rampant now because there are so few who believe.

We must stop the abortion holocaust - that is a first step.


41 posted on 09/18/2011 7:05:06 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: Loud Mime

Brave and/or stupid, but incredible to watch.
Thanks


42 posted on 09/18/2011 9:03:45 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: org.whodat

Almost any weekend in America there is an airshow.
From small to vast military bases.
Get educated before callling things wastes of money and comparisons that favor trivialzing great things of this nation.


43 posted on 09/18/2011 12:56:37 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

They are a waste of money. And you are the one that needs a little education. We, the world, are in the last few years of needing a pilot, the commercial industry would switch over to computers today if they thought they could get people to accept it. Kids born today will, they will have grown up with a computer in their hands. And yes, there has been studies made about the subject.


44 posted on 09/18/2011 1:11:31 PM PDT by org.whodat (so Perry's purchase price starts at $5001.00: and $29,000 , was a sell.)
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To: pterional

..we’ll have to watch to see the final explanation.


45 posted on 09/18/2011 2:55:21 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle
"...the West Virginia University Hospital said that there are no fatalities as a result of the crash other than the pilot. "Mueller did not have any details on the pilot's condition." Say what?
46 posted on 09/18/2011 2:59:32 PM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: EDINVA

crack news people and proof readers


47 posted on 09/18/2011 3:04:24 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: org.whodat

There will always be pilots because when SHTF you need human beings in the loop. Computers are great, when everything happens as expected.

It’s clear you’ve never spent any time in a cockpit.
I have.


48 posted on 09/18/2011 5:35:37 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: cayuga

The T-34s are long gone as well.


49 posted on 09/18/2011 5:37:20 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Almost any weekend in America there is an airshow. From small to vast military bases. Get educated before callling things wastes of money and comparisons that favor trivialzing great things of this nation.

Same person making ignorant comments on the Reno/P-51 threads ...sigh...

50 posted on 09/18/2011 5:42:17 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("The number one goal in life is to parent yourself" Carl Jung)
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