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Bachmann's Vaccine Panic
gastongazette.com ^ | 9/18/2011 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 09/18/2011 6:31:18 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Cancer treatment has made great progress in recent decades, but the tragedy is that so much of our effort to combat this scourge is just that: treatment. Once a disease appears, there is only so much that can be done. It would be far cheaper, more effective and less traumatic to prevent it.

A vaccine for cancer would be a triumph for public health. Did I say “would be”? Actually, it is. Such a vaccine exists for one of the biggest killers of women. But Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., is against it, and she’s not alone.

Two different vaccines block transmission of the human papillomavirus (HPV), which causes 70 percent of all cervical cancer in this country, as well as most anal cancers and some cancers of the throat, vagina and penis.

Each year, says the National Cancer Institute, more than 12,000 American women are diagnosed with cervical cancer alone, and some 4,000 will die of it. That’s not counting the genital warts HPV can cause.

It’s a nasty but very common bug that the world would be better off without. Universal inoculation would be a huge step toward eradicating it and the suffering it causes.

But there is a big impediment to its use: HPV is sexually transmitted, which makes the vaccine controversial — especially because to achieve maximum effectiveness, it has to be administered before the recipient becomes sexually active. And in this country, 6 percent of youngsters have sex by the age of 13.


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1 posted on 09/18/2011 6:31:19 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
I particularly liked this part...
Bachmann insists the vaccine is “a very dangerous drug.” After the debate, she reported, she met a woman whose daughter developed mental retardation in reaction to the shot.

Would she believe someone who told her the vaccine came from space aliens?


2 posted on 09/18/2011 6:32:50 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

3 posted on 09/18/2011 6:34:00 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: Perdogg

LOL...that’s a dangerous vaccine!


4 posted on 09/18/2011 6:34:59 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Read about some young girls who had reactions to Gardasil here (they’re heart wrenching and some could easily be confused with mental retardation):

http://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases/hpv.aspx


5 posted on 09/18/2011 6:38:05 AM PDT by MulberryDraw ( Where's the democrat budget? What's the plan?)
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To: Perdogg

ROTFLOL....


6 posted on 09/18/2011 6:38:59 AM PDT by ToxicMich
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To: RoosterRedux
These concerns were raised long before Bachmann ran for President. Check out "Gardasil Death & Brain Damage: A National Tragedy".

Please note this is from an advocacy group, acting on reports they had received. Here are more links, some with outside references within the articles.

My question is, did she tell the truth about the crying woman who told her this? If so, then she's vindicated on just about everything (IMHO). If not...

7 posted on 09/18/2011 6:43:10 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: RoosterRedux

They could get the same result through the compulsory feeding of saltpetre to all boys under the age of 8. But somehow I doubt if that would catch on.


8 posted on 09/18/2011 6:51:17 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Gardisil Retards for Bachman!

Just kidding folks. Don’t flame me.


9 posted on 09/18/2011 6:51:27 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Terrorism is nothing more than Kinetic Islam)
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To: MulberryDraw

To be fair you should also post the number of deaths related to the cancer the vaccine is intended to reduce.


10 posted on 09/18/2011 6:53:05 AM PDT by e_castillo (Drill here drill now...)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
My question is, did she tell the truth about the crying woman who told her this?

IMO repeating an anecdotal account as fact is a sign of poor judgment, no matter how well-meaning the person who told her the story.

And if Michelle is lying, she's a real jerk.

I use to like Bachmann, but there is an impulsiveness and/or intensity about her that concerns me re: her judgment. There is something about her that reminds me of Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction (I think it's the eyes).

11 posted on 09/18/2011 6:54:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

always wondered how that word was spelled......


12 posted on 09/18/2011 6:54:54 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: RoosterRedux
Bachmann insists the vaccine is “a very dangerous drug.” After the debate, she reported, she met a woman whose daughter developed mental retardation in reaction to the shot.

Bachmann's mother was at the debate.

13 posted on 09/18/2011 6:55:31 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: MulberryDraw
Go read about what other vaccines have done to other kids...and those are mandatory...vaccinations.
14 posted on 09/18/2011 6:55:37 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
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15 posted on 09/18/2011 6:57:05 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It can also be spelled “saltpeter.” But somehow that looks funny. It might tend to make you think it’s topically applied, rather than ingested.


16 posted on 09/18/2011 6:58:13 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: MulberryDraw

“My daughter received two Gardasil shots, one in August and one in October 2007 along with the vaccine for meningitis.

Since then, my healthy teenage daughter became a chronically ill young woman. In the last year I have called 911 more times than I can count. She has been hospitalized three times within a year. We have seen many doctors and specialists.

Ashley experiences life threatening episodes of seizure like activity, difficulty breathing, major back spasms, paralysis, dehydration, memory loss and tremors. At times she becomes unresponsive. She has daily illnesses of nausea, exhaustion, vomiting, pain, and hair loss. I have provided CPR to her on a regular basis.”

“Gabi received three Gardasil shots in November 2007 and February and June 2008.

Gabi was a healthy, strong teenage girl prior to her first shot of Gardasil. She was the epitome of the All-American girl…beautiful, smart, and caring with a heart of gold. She was a varsity and competitive All-Star cheerleader, gymnast, Honor Roll student involved in leadership and sang in a Bel Canto Choir at her high school.

Gabi had taken a vow to wait for the man she would spend the rest of her life with and she had many dreams she was going to fulfill before she got married. There is cervical cancer in our family and we both wanted to do everything possible to protect her from getting cervical cancer someday. That is why we decided to have her get the series of Gardasil shots.

Immediately following her first shot of Gardasil, her arm went numb and remained that way for several minutes. Within a week of receiving her first shot, Gabi’s life began to change.”

“Christina Tarsell was a 21-year-old college student majoring in studio arts at Bard College when she received a series of three Gardasil shots. A talented athlete, artist and honor roll student, she died suddenly and without explanation shortly after the third shot in June 2008.”


17 posted on 09/18/2011 6:59:48 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: RoosterRedux
Chapman throws digs at social conservatives but HPV would not be the problem it is today if we still had the mores that existed before 1963.

With that said Perry is still right regarding the benefits of Gardasil inoculations.

18 posted on 09/18/2011 7:04:17 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: RoosterRedux

I wonder how long Bachmann will stand there on the stage with everyone giving her a disgusted look - though, I guess if you’ll get that far down in the gutter for power, you don’t give a damn what people think of you.


19 posted on 09/18/2011 7:04:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Perdogg

“Our nightmare started in December 2007 without us even knowing it when my fun loving, active daughter willingly pulled up her sleeve and received the first of three Gardasil shots. Cassie, 14 at the time, is known for her genuine love of life and her heart-warming smile. She was very active in her church and youth group and was an athlete, playing volleyball and running track. That was until Gardasil vaccine stole her life away from her.

After receiving the first Gardasil shot, she started experiencing severe headaches and nosebleeds, which continued after the second shot and increased in severity and added to her extreme fatigue. After seeing our family physician twice and still not connecting her health problems to Gardasil, Cassie received the third Gardasil shot as well as other vaccines. That’s when everything fell apart.”

“My daughter, Victoria, has been ill since February 2008. She had her first Gardasil vaccination in November 2007. Her second vaccination was in the beginning of February 2008. Immediately after her second vaccination, Victoria experienced severe diarrhea and was nauseous for about eight weeks. She had blood work done many times by doctors looking for a virus. On March 31, 2008, Victoria had her first seizure and was seen by neurologists, none of whom related her seizures to Gardasil. Meanwhile, I started to do research on the internet and found hundreds of families with daughters who have experienced the exact same symptoms my daughter experienced after Gardasil vaccination and are sharing stories, symptoms and information.

Victoria currently experiences the following symptoms: non-epileptic seizures, migraines, fainting, tremors, twitches, numbness, intermittent leg paralysis and facial paralysis, tingling, staring or blank episodes, eye pain, joint pain, neck pain, back pain, memory loss, confusion, brain fog, regression, mood swings and chronic fatigue. She continues to have bouts of nausea and diarrhea. She has not been in school since April 2008. She can never be left home alone. She can’t go to school, go out with her friends or work or has little “normalcy” in her life. She has very few good days and always says she doesn’t feel good.”

Gardasil is no joke.


20 posted on 09/18/2011 7:07:09 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: RoosterRedux
Someone check my arithmetic for me, but if the annual death rate among women from HPV-caused cervical cancer is 70 percent of 4,000, and there are 150 million women living in the United States, the chance of getting it is somewhere in the vicinity of .000186 of a percent. So do we really want to spend the money, subvert our notions of personal freedom and place innocent people at risk in order to deal with so minuscule a threat?
21 posted on 09/18/2011 7:11:14 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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22 posted on 09/18/2011 7:11:46 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

maybe such confusion is why someone became retarded after gardisil...../s


23 posted on 09/18/2011 7:15:21 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: RoosterRedux

Yup, the old “I used to love Michele Bachmann” cliches until she made Rick Perry look like a litte girl. If he’s such a genuis, why didn’t he stand up to her and refute her accusations? Instead, he looked like the eternal deer in the headlights. For some of us on FR, that was a real turnoff.


24 posted on 09/18/2011 7:17:19 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: RoosterRedux

I’m sorry but Bachmann is a hypocrite.

In her state Heb B Vaccine is mandated with NO opt out.

Yet:

The hepatitis B vaccine has been linked to immunological and neurological disorders.

By Ben Howe, Red State

What’s worse than a mandatory vaccination that never actually came to law and, even if it had, contained an opt-out? According to Michele Bachmann, nothing. In fact, if you listen to Michele Bachmann these days, you’d think Governor Perry was strapping 12 year old children to tables to inject them when he takes breaks from using the other needle on inmates..................

By all appearances, she felt no need to mention, much less work towards stopping, a vaccination that, by her own standards, is an assault on liberty.

Even more so actually. The HPV vaccination, while called mandatory, made available an opt-out provision so that the parental rights that she felt were so paramount could be protected in this decision.

The Hepatitis B vaccination in Minnesota (state law since 1993) doesn’t even require parental consent at all. And Hep B’s communicability is similar to HPV in that it is primarily transmitted through intercourse, as opposed to being an airborne illness.

Currently, no records can be found of Michele Bachmann sponsoring legislation in the Minnesota legislature to repeal the Hep B vaccination or to add a parental opt-out.

Read more: http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2011/09/13/bachmann-stayed-quiet-on-mandatory-vaccinations-while-serving-minnesota/#ixzz1YJUfr1s7


25 posted on 09/18/2011 7:18:32 AM PDT by TexMom7
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To: RoosterRedux
There has never been a medical treatment, vaccine, or medicine developed that has not affected someone adversely. It, unfortunately occurs. However, in the absence of this life saving research and development, millions would die from the underlying conditions.

There have been people who have died on the operating table while having tonsils removed - does that mean we should no longer allow it, or worse yet, begin a class action suit to seek damages from all surgeons who have removed tonsils.

I once nearly died of anaphylactic shock following a penecilin dose. Do I think we need to not allow antibiotics to be administered? Not in a million years.

26 posted on 09/18/2011 7:19:24 AM PDT by RobertClark (Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind.)
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To: All

You stay classy Rick Perry supporters.


27 posted on 09/18/2011 7:20:22 AM PDT by McGruff (Vetting - The process of examination and evaluation of a candidate's record.)
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To: Tribune7

Forced anything is anti-freedom, go join the DNC.


28 posted on 09/18/2011 7:23:55 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rick Perry, another New World Order crony....)
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To: miss marmelstein
Though the following paraphrase has often been incorrectly attributed to Sun Tzu, IMO it applies to Bachmann...
"when you opponent is destroying herself, don't get in the way..."

29 posted on 09/18/2011 7:25:25 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

SANEVax: Heart Broken Moms Offended By AAP Statements on Merck Gardasil

Open Letter to Dr. O. Marion Burton, president, American Academy of Pediatrics

Re: Heart-broken moms offended by statements of AAP on Gardasil®

September 16, 2011

Dear Dr. Burton:

On behalf of the thousands of parents who have either lost their perfectly healthy teenage daughters, or been left to endure the physical/mental/emotional and financial hardship of being forced to deal with the permanent disabling effects of Gardasil® vaccination, SANE Vax Inc. is offended by the thoughtless, ignorant and offensive press release issued from the office of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) on September 13, 2011.

The press release criticizes the comment made by Republican presidential candidate, Michele Bachmann regarding Gardasil® side effects as ‘false statements’; and instead stated authoritatively ‘…it (Gardasil®) has an excellent safety record.’

Are you still practicing pediatrics? Physicians in the U.S. look to the AAP for guidelines yet the AAP seems to be oblivious to the latest Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. VAERS statistics clearly show that HPV Vaccines, Gardasil and Cervarix, have been associated with 22, 619 adverse reactions; 8,926 of those reports requiring emergency hospitalization; and 4,616 cases where the victim did not recover. Death reports stand at 102.

Read more at: http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/09/sanevax-heart-broken-moms-offended-by-aap-statements-on-merck-gardasil.html


30 posted on 09/18/2011 7:30:42 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: miss marmelstein

I would submit that they both “lost” in this exchange - Perry for not responding very intelligently as you state - and MB for going over the top and over dramatic and for not letting her scored points speak for themselves.

Perry should have simply responded “for someone who supports the biggest crony scam ever - ethanol subsidies - I’m surprised to hear that you are so concerned about it...” — or something like that. But he was not sharp enough or prepared enough to do so.

Disappointing X 2 for both of them IMO.


31 posted on 09/18/2011 7:31:37 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: RoosterRedux

it is a very dangerous vaccine.

SANEVax: Heart Broken Moms Offended By AAP Statements on Merck Gardasil

Open Letter to Dr. O. Marion Burton, president, American Academy of Pediatrics

Re: Heart-broken moms offended by statements of AAP on Gardasil®

September 16, 2011

Dear Dr. Burton:

On behalf of the thousands of parents who have either lost their perfectly healthy teenage daughters, or been left to endure the physical/mental/emotional and financial hardship of being forced to deal with the permanent disabling effects of Gardasil® vaccination, SANE Vax Inc. is offended by the thoughtless, ignorant and offensive press release issued from the office of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) on September 13, 2011.

The press release criticizes the comment made by Republican presidential candidate, Michele Bachmann regarding Gardasil® side effects as ‘false statements’; and instead stated authoritatively ‘…it (Gardasil®) has an excellent safety record.’

Are you still practicing pediatrics? Physicians in the U.S. look to the AAP for guidelines yet the AAP seems to be oblivious to the latest Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. VAERS statistics clearly show that HPV Vaccines, Gardasil and Cervarix, have been associated with 22, 619 adverse reactions; 8,926 of those reports requiring emergency hospitalization; and 4,616 cases where the victim did not recover. Death reports stand at 102.

Read more at: http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/09/sanevax-heart-broken-moms-offended-by-aap-statements-on-merck-gardasil.html


32 posted on 09/18/2011 7:31:39 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: RoosterRedux
I've heard this cliche that Perry was brilliantly subverting Bachmann’s accusations. But as someone who knew nothing about Perry until a few weeks ago, it looked weak and indecisive.
33 posted on 09/18/2011 7:33:21 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: P-Marlowe

LOL


34 posted on 09/18/2011 7:36:56 AM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: McGruff

Too late. Look at that picture of Michele. You disrespect a conservative good Christian woman and you talk about being classy......lol. Disgusting bunch, all of you.


35 posted on 09/18/2011 7:37:21 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You make some very good points! He will need to step up his game if he wants to get my vote. I don’t think Bachmann is going to get the nomination (although I like her very much) so I don’t like to see the other candidates stumbling around, looking foolish.

I wonder if he was prepared for Romney’s attacks, but not Bachmann’s...


36 posted on 09/18/2011 7:37:21 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Run, Sarah, Run! Please!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

there is the proof. Bachmann is a hero!!


37 posted on 09/18/2011 7:37:28 AM PDT by mplunk
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To: RoosterRedux
....but there is an impulsiveness and/or intensity about her that concerns me re: her judgment. There is something about her that reminds me of Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction (I think it's the eyes).

Yes, yes, yes. You nailed it.
38 posted on 09/18/2011 7:38:26 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: Perdogg

You are very disappointing. I never thought you would disrespect a good conservative christian woman. You really have to do that because she is expressing her opinion which is correct by the way. I wonder if you are even a conservative anymore. You certainly have gone more to the left with Perry that is for sure.


39 posted on 09/18/2011 7:39:32 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: television is just wrong
That is the nutball site that faked a study that claimed vaccinations caused autism.
40 posted on 09/18/2011 7:41:06 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: napscoordinator

She lied which is a major sin for a good Christian to do in order to win.

She has brought this on herself. It’s a good thing because it highlights the fact that she is not ready for primetime and dang sure not fit for the Office of the President. No shrill and hysterical woman should come close to handling the football.


41 posted on 09/18/2011 7:45:16 AM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: RoosterRedux; All
There is a reasonable case against what Perry wanted to do re: Gardasil. Rick Santorum made that case very well in the debate.

If Bachmann would have made that case I'd be totally fine with her.

But if I become convinced (and I'm getting close) that she's pandering to the anti-vaccinations-in-general moonbat fringe, she's permanently off my list.

42 posted on 09/18/2011 7:48:37 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Nothing will cure the economy but debt deleveraging, deregulation, and time.)
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To: miss marmelstein

You and I are of like mind on this - and a lot of others are too I suspect. Perry is supposed to have some genius running his campaign. Really? I never thought Rove was a genius (something many more folks agree with me on today than say, in November 04) and I don’t think Perry’s advisors are that great either - and he doesn’t seem to be extremely quick off the hip.

Wish were that we could meld Perry’s image and Newt’s quickness and say Palin’s principles into one super candidate....or something like that.


43 posted on 09/18/2011 7:51:24 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: napscoordinator
I am a conservative, always have been always will be. I am disappointed in Bachmann. She essentially accused Perry of taking a bribe without any regards for the truth or the long term ramifications of the accusation. I have no problem with Bachmann's views, I welcome them and they should be part of the debate. But what she did was wrong and I am sure if Perry gets the nomination her statements will probably be used the 0bama campaign in 2012 against him.
44 posted on 09/18/2011 7:53:22 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: RoosterRedux
IMO repeating an anecdotal account as fact is a sign of poor judgment, no matter how well-meaning the person who told her the story.

Anecdotes are not science. She ought to have known better.

I use to like Bachmann, but there is an impulsiveness and/or intensity about her that concerns me re: her judgment. There is something about her that reminds me of Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction (I think it's the eyes).

You go over the line here into sexism. She is a beautiful woman. "Impulsiveness", "intensity"? Santorum has the same, yet you would nevey make such a silly comparision. C'mon.

45 posted on 09/18/2011 7:53:29 AM PDT by montag813
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To: miss marmelstein

He didn’t stand up to her because he is a Texas GENTLEMAN. I guess he assumed that she was a lady and was shocked to find out that she was not. It’s a southern thing - men who were raised as gentlemen are still protective of ladies.


46 posted on 09/18/2011 7:55:03 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: CajunConservative

Prove it that she lied. You can’t. She may very well be telling the truth. Of course you would have been front and center at the Salem witch trials. Ensuring that people killed those women without proving that they were evil. In fact, you probably would have been the one to order the trials. You don’t seem like a Christian to me at all.


47 posted on 09/18/2011 7:55:29 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Perdogg

She actually said some very true things. She said that she received money from Merck. He did. She said that the vaccine should not be government run. It was and he signed the EO without legislation support. He did. She said that some folks have gotten sick from the vaccine. They did. What is wrong. She seems more right than anybody. By the way, I have ZERO problem with you being disappointed in her and even decide not to vote for her, but to smear her with that unfortunate picture is wrong.


48 posted on 09/18/2011 7:58:27 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Notary Sojac
I agree Rick Santorum said it best.

I think we need to hear what Governor Perry’s saying. He’s saying that his policy was right. He believes that what he did was right. He thinks he went about it the wrong way.

I believe your policy is wrong. Why — ladies and gentlemen, why do we inoculate people with vaccines in public schools? Because we’re afraid of those diseases being communicable between people at school. And therefore, to protect the rest of the people at school, we have vaccinations to protect those children.

Unless Texas has a very progressive way of communicating diseases in their school by way of their curriculum, then there is no government purpose served for having little girls inoculated at the force and compulsion of the government. This is big government run amok. It is bad policy, and it should not have been done.

49 posted on 09/18/2011 7:58:56 AM PDT by McGruff (Vetting - The process of examination and evaluation of a candidate's record.)
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To: CajunConservative
She lied which is a major sin for a good Christian to do in order to win.

Please provide a quote of her "lie" or take that statement back.

50 posted on 09/18/2011 8:00:43 AM PDT by McGruff (Vetting - The process of examination and evaluation of a candidate's record.)
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