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5 Bikers Found Dead At Tenn. Charity Event
Fox News.com ^ | September 18, 2011

Posted on 09/18/2011 7:15:05 PM PDT by Kaslin

CLARKSVILLE, Tenn. – Five bikers were found dead Sunday in a recreational vehicle at a Tennessee speedway and a festival organizer said fumes from a generator were to blame.

Three men and two women were found in the RV at the Clarksville Speedway about noon and there was no sign of foul play, Clarksville police spokesman Jim Knoll said.The head of Bikers Who Care, the charity that organized the event, said he heard someone shouting that all of the people in the trailer were dead. The event festivities came to an abrupt halt as ambulances arrived.

"This is a tragic accident," Bill Langford said. "It's horrible."

Langford said the bikers' group was like a close-knit family and he knew the people who had died. He identified them as a married couple who had 8-month-old twins. He was a truck driver and she was a school teacher.

The others who died were another couple and a man who worked with one of the men. All were from the Clarksville area about 40 miles northwest of Nashville.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: motorcycles; rv
This was in my town. Our local news paper the Clarksville Leaf Chronicle wrote it would take 6 to eight weeks for an autopsy
1 posted on 09/18/2011 7:15:06 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What a shame.


2 posted on 09/18/2011 7:17:01 PM PDT by edpc (Former Normalcy Bias Victim)
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To: Kaslin

RIP.


3 posted on 09/18/2011 7:17:23 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: Kaslin

Oh my goodness! How very tragic. Prayers for all who have been affected by this horrendous accident.


4 posted on 09/18/2011 7:17:23 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Kaslin; martin_fierro; Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

motorcycle or pedal?


5 posted on 09/18/2011 7:17:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Kaslin
asphyxiation?

rv heaters are good for that.

6 posted on 09/18/2011 7:20:06 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Kaslin
asphyxiation?

rv heaters are good for that.

7 posted on 09/18/2011 7:20:13 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Kaslin
this is horrendous....

a few years ago, we lost our power....we had a young family visiting and they slept downstairs and it was very humid and hot....so we set up the generator just outside so we could run a big fan for them....

but I couldn't rest....I told my husband that I was afraid that fumes would be created downstairs where this family with 3 little kids were staying so we marched downstairs and had to turn the fan off and the generator....it was sweltering but at least no one was hurt...

yes,I'm a worry wart..

8 posted on 09/18/2011 7:33:15 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Kaslin

omg...How absolutely horrible. I just cannot imagine how something like this could happen!

RIP.


9 posted on 09/18/2011 7:34:21 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Attention: Liberals & RINOS: We The People are coming for YOU)
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To: digger48

For us non RV owners what makes the generator so likely to create fumes inside other than improper or faulty ventilation? Please share more on this topic—anyone!


10 posted on 09/18/2011 7:36:05 PM PDT by tflabo ( to have been selected)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No motorcycle. They have this event every year on the third weekend in September.


11 posted on 09/18/2011 7:36:11 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

What a tragedy for your community and the families. The couple with the 8 month old twins really got to me.


12 posted on 09/18/2011 7:36:42 PM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: Kaslin

Carbon Monoxide is a sneaky killer.


13 posted on 09/18/2011 7:37:49 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kaslin

So sad. We used to have a camping trailer with a heater, that ran off propane. We always kept the sliding window on the door slightly open just so fumes wouldn’t have the chance to build up.


14 posted on 09/18/2011 7:38:13 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Venturer

I recall a year or two ago that a guy died inside a TENT while using some kind of propane heater....


15 posted on 09/18/2011 7:40:09 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Outlaw Woman; All

One of the couples had 8 month old twins.He was a truck driver and she was a school teacher


16 posted on 09/18/2011 7:41:04 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: cherry
Good for you.

Nothing wrong with being a worry wart. My wife is one too.

Thing is, she's usually right to worry.

17 posted on 09/18/2011 7:41:56 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: cherry

Don’t gasoline powered generators make a racket similar to a lawn mower? With only minimal muffling? So it can’t be too close to a habitable area anyhow.

Putting it under the trailer (like to shelter it from rain) would be asking for trouble.

Always a good idea to use carbon monoxide detectors indoors if there is any fear of penetration of fumes. The detector (working properly, with good batteries) will catch the situation and sound its alarm well before the concentration of monoxide fumes is enough to kill. But unlike a smoke detector you can’t just shut it off and wait and see if there is any noticeable sign of fire. You have to act quickly to avoid being poisoned.


18 posted on 09/18/2011 7:45:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: cherry

Some propane and kerosene heaters are made to achieve complete enough combustion that the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning is very little. Some have their own monoxide detectors and will shut off if excessive monoxide accumulates.


19 posted on 09/18/2011 7:47:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: tflabo

I wouldn’t know specifically, but there was a couple that died this way several years back at the local Vietnam Veteran reunion here.

I would have to go with the ventillation though. Old camper furnaces could rust out, mouse nests in vents....


20 posted on 09/18/2011 7:48:00 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Kaslin

Just a sad thing to happen, especially at a charity event. May those lost RIP.


21 posted on 09/18/2011 7:48:41 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: cherry

That is exactly how a coworker and family was near death. The power went out and the gen kicked on with fumes leaking in the house. You are a wise worry wart.


22 posted on 09/18/2011 7:49:58 PM PDT by healy61
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To: Kaslin

I saw that. Is it corny or sappy to say it really tore me up? Honest to God...it’s so tragic. Again, I just cannot understand how something like this could happen. The fumes must be absolutely oderless


23 posted on 09/18/2011 7:50:53 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Attention: Liberals & RINOS: We The People are coming for YOU)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Monoxide itself is odorless, but engine exhaust fumes wouldn’t be. They would have a characteristic odor. However, if the victims are all asleep they may not notice an odor and be overcome.

It would seem to me that catalytic converters, long used on automobiles, would make sense as safety features on generators. They can cut carbon monoxide emissions of an engine by a factor of a hundred or more, by causing the monoxide to be further oxidized to harmless carbon dioxide.


24 posted on 09/18/2011 7:55:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: healy61

Years ago we slept in a home that had a propane heater placed in the middle of the house. Sometimes the smell would get noxious. Didnt realize how dangerous that could be.


25 posted on 09/18/2011 8:03:51 PM PDT by tflabo ( to have been selected)
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To: tflabo
For us non RV owners what makes the generator so likely to create fumes inside other than improper or faulty ventilation? Please share more on this topic—anyone!

It really depends on the RV and the generator. I bought a used Class A this last spring. The generator on it is right under the master bed. The exhaust exits under the body, but is only 3 feet from the window - straight up. When we run the generator, we can smell the fumes, as the RV is hardly air-tight, so we usually only run it long enough to either re-charge the 12-volt batteries, or a coffee maker or toaster, if we aren't plugged into electrical. We leave the windows on the generator side closed, and open windows on the opposite side.

We do run it going down the road if it's hot - to run the air-conditioning in the cabin. But we are running down the road, so the exhaust is pulled away from the vehicle.

My guess is that they were trying to stay cool, and were running the generator to run the A/C.

Most RVs should have a working CO alarm in them for exactly this purpose.

26 posted on 09/18/2011 8:04:59 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Outlaw Woman

No it is not corny or sappy at all.


27 posted on 09/18/2011 8:07:10 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: tflabo

Faulty ventilation is always the cause of CO deaths, other than intentional ones. In an RV you’re basically sleeping in a box that’s right over the top of a running engine that produces carbon monoxide. Proper ventilation is more important when the RV windows are closed.


28 posted on 09/18/2011 8:07:22 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: IYAS9YAS

Re-plumbing the generator exhaust to come out above the trailer would seem to be in order. CO is lighter than N2 or O2. More important for it, than for the vehicle exhaust itself because on modern transportation that has a catalytic converter and is very low in CO.


29 posted on 09/18/2011 8:23:26 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Kaslin

A friend of mine is an Episcopal priest in Clarksville. Don’t know yet if he new the victims.


30 posted on 09/18/2011 8:33:08 PM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: Kaslin
Carbon monoxide detector might’ve been in order.
31 posted on 09/18/2011 8:43:00 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: tflabo
all of the people in the trailer were dead.

It apparently was not a generator that was factory mounted. Trailers seldom have a generator mounted. Motor homes usually have a generator mounted, you are cautioned to keep the windows closed to keep exhaust out.

If it was a separate generator it must have been upwind of the trailer. If it had a window open, that would allow exhaust to enter.

An external generator needs to be away from the trailer, and be so the breeze will carry exhaust away.

32 posted on 09/18/2011 8:51:09 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: cherry

Nothing wrong with being a bit overly cautious. Hope you rest peacefully tonight.


33 posted on 09/18/2011 9:07:53 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Re-plumbing the generator exhaust to come out above the trailer would seem to be in order.

They make an exhaust kit that you can attach while parked that uses the venturi effect to draw the exhaust up above your rig. However, those are not without concern, as well.

34 posted on 09/18/2011 9:39:30 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Venturer

Enough of one that I believe all new RV’s, not sure of the start date, must have carbon monoxide alarms. From what I know, they may not be as good as a fire alarm in detection.


35 posted on 09/19/2011 1:24:39 AM PDT by wita
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