Skip to comments.Michele Bachmann Talks HPV Vaccine, Homosexuality on Jay Leno Show (She ain't backing down)
Posted on 09/18/2011 8:43:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
A daring Michele Bachmann appeared on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and faced grilling questions on the HPV vaccine, gay marriage and homosexuality.
As the liberal host of the late night talk show thanked the GOP presidential hopeful for being a good sport, he said, Weve done a million jokes. Hopefully, you havent been watching any of them.
However, soon thereafter Leno appeared unusually serious as he threw questions at Minnesota Congresswoman Bachmann.
Lenos first question Friday evening concerned Bachmanns attacks on Texas Gov. Rick Perry for supporting the HPV vaccine. Is that bad? Its a vaccine to prevent cervical cancer, asked Leno.
Well I think so, Bachmann replied. The concern is that there are potentially side effects that can come with something like that. But it gives a false sense of assurance to a young woman when she has that, that if shes sexually active that she doesnt have to worry about sexually transmitted diseases.
Perry signed an executive order in 2007 requiring Texas middle-school girls to get vaccinated against the sexually transmitted HPV. The order wasnt implemented though.
Im not sure its a sense of assurance. It can prevent cervical cancer, correct? Leno interrupted.
Its something that could potentially have dangerous side effects, Bachmann replied.
Referring to Bachmanns meeting with an unidentified woman after last weeks GOP debate in Florida who said her daughter suffered mental retardation as a result of the HPV vaccine, Leno asked, Do you regret not getting this womans name and address?
I dont know who this person was, Bachmann replied. I wasnt speaking as a doctor, I wasnt speaking as a scientist, I was just relating what this woman said.
Questions on homosexuality and gay marriage followed. That whole pray the gay away thing, I dont get it, Leno said, referring to her familys Christian counseling clinic.
Bachmann jokingly pointed to her hair and said, When I heard that I really thought it was like kind of a mid-life crisis line, like, Pray away the gray. But Leno wasnt in a mood to joke, it seemed.
Bachmann defended the clinic saying it did not discriminate. But she didnt hesitate to repeat her position that marriage is between a man and a woman.
It sounds like, if two gay people want to get married, thats their business, that doesnt concern us, Leno responded. Why is that even an issue? I know gay families that are married, they have children. And theyre wonderful people. It doesnt seem like they shouldnt be allowed to be happy. But Im not going to change your mind on that one.
Leno also asked about Bachmanns opposition to raising the debt ceiling. Bachmann said it wasnt an attack on President Barack Obama, and that she would have taken the same stand even if it was George W. Bush.
Pressed on her slipping down in the polls after Perrys entrance in the race, Bachmann acknowledged it changes the dynamic. But were in for the marathon. Were not in for the sprint, she added.
Leno then asked her who her running mate would be if she won the Republican nomination. Youre taken. You dont want a cut in pay, Bachmann replied, teasing him. Leno replied, Well, wed probably have an argument over the gay thing.
I know she has to hold back on national television, but I wish she really tore him a new one instead of saying, “yeah” over and over.
The only person that got torn a new one was Bachmann. Everyone has been talking about how Leno busted her. She’s a joke.
If anyone saw that interview, it was not good for Bachmann. It was very uncomfortable and Leno was being a real hard ass. Not any laughs in it like other politicians that go on there. I don’t think it left a good impression on the people who watch that type of show about Bachmann.
Jay Leno is a complete POS. May he rot in hell!
She had potential.
But also proved an old adage: Don’t vote for anyone from MN.
I was really disappointed when Leno was gushing over homosexuals having families, etc.....I wish she would have said something like what a shame for those selfish parents to deny a child their biological mother or father.
Why would Leno think is is fine for people to built an “artificial” family which denies teleological facts of nature and mocks and belittles mothers or fathers and turns children into commodities to be sold or used in a selfish, inhumane way.
Then she should have asked Leno if he had a mother and father and how he would feel if he was taken away from his biological mother like he was a thing to be used so that two people could pretend they are what they never can be.
All ethics say it is evil to use people as a means to an end and that is what they are doing by playing house. It is evil.
Doesn’t sound like she stood up to him on the gay “marriage” question—or if she did, this article doesn’t record what she said. Annoying either way.
She's actually right about HPV vaccine why mandatory. Even Rush Limbaugh not criticizing her about her HPV assessment. What's the mortality rate of cervical cancer? There were 759 women died of cervical cancer in 2008. Compare to how many people getting killed in vehicular accident?
“Im not sure its a sense of assurance. It can prevent cervical cancer, correct? Leno interrupted.
Its something that could potentially have dangerous side effects, Bachmann replied.”
Why doesn’t she answer the question? She screwed up, someone prepared her responsive talking points and they’re worn thin. She sounds like a broken record: “Side effects. I’m not a doctor. I’m not a scientist, blah blah blah.” But she won’t answer the simple question: can it prevent cervical cancer?
I didn’t see it, and don’t know much about the “pray away the gay”. But my response would have been something like “I have friends that are gay and they are fine with it. This clinic is for people that don’t want to be gay, want to change, and believe that God can help them. And I believe that with ANY stuggle that you have, God is there to give you guidance and strength.”
You make it sound like homosexuals are stealing babies.
Rush did call her out when she claimed Gardesil causes mental retardation. There was no reason for Bachmann to head down that road.
It’s unfortunate. Bachmann is one of us.
She needed a larger sample than just one.
Good for Mrs. Bachmann. We are being over vaccinated. Allopathic medicine puts too much stock in the germ theory. Toxemia is the real culprit in disease and our bodies inability to fight off pathogens. From stress to food toxins to environmental toxins and finally, the toxins in vaccines that our given, now throughout life.
It is no wonder why there are so many new syndromes, childhood diabetes, chronic depression, sexual infertility, hyperactivity, chronic respiratory infections. All these disorders are costing our country and the world too much money and resources. I am happy that she is fighting back. For some reason, the intelegencia within our medical profession are unwilling to connect the dots. The great naturopaths a couple hundred year ago knew the reasons for disease and wrote, extensively about them. Maybe it is they can push a new vaccine or some new wonder drug. It is really getting out of hand.
It is good that someone is fighting back, even if it is hurting her.
The National Cancer Institute reports that about 12000 women a year are diagnosed with cervical cancer in the US; about 4000 a year die from it. So that is about a 33% mortality rate in the US. Worldwide, about 450,000 are diagnosed each year, and about 233,000 die, so that is closer 50%. Cervical cancer is the #2 cause of cancer deaths for women in the world.
The increase is also consistent with the increase of soy consumption. In Asian countries soy is only use as a condiment and most is fermented to neutralize toxins, such as goitergens and endrocrine disruptors.
Check your labels. Almost all packaged for has soybean oil ot soy flour or soy lecithin. Not to mention the soy milk that flies off super market shelves in the U.S.
Perry made a decision based on the fact that Gardisil would protect a large percentage of people exposed to HPV from getting genital warts and cervical cancer. I urge you to google ‘genital warts photos’ and look at what HPV can do.
He decided that the executive order would force insurance companies and more importantly Medicare to pay the cost of a very expensive drug. The drug had been thoroughly tested and had a stellar performance record with very few side effects, none of which where mental retardation. If he had made the vaccine ‘recommended’ with an ‘opt in’ it would NOT be covered by insurance.
I urge you to consider what the effects would be of a daughter of yours falling in love with a young man who may have been exposed to HPV and not shown symptoms, as most people do not, they marry and he spreads the disease to her. She years later is diagnosed with cervical cancer and like more than a third of women with this form if cancer, she dies a terrible and painful death. Three shots at twelve years of age would prevent this type of horror.
They are also giving It to boys now. I will not hesitate to have my sons vaccinated against this disease.
There may be some truth to the idea that we are over vaccinated, but if you have ever lost a child, you would do anything you could to prevent disease from taking another. We now have the reintroduction of many previously eradicated diseases thanks to rampant third world illegal immigration and parents who believe more in the idea of toxicity than in the reality of killer diseases.
Your post makes some excellent points.
Homosexuality is a corruption of natural sexuality and for a child it is a total corruption of their need for family.
It is absolutely a horrible shame for any child to have their need for a real mother and a real father mocked in such a sick and perverse fashion.
Well said and so true!
Didn’t see it, but sounds like Jay just handed Michele all the rope she needed and she just kept tying that knot.
Really hate to see her self destruct, thought she brought some good conservative ideas, until Waterloo and then the inability to shut up while she was ahead and quote some unkonwn “person” with outlandish claims, which she can not substantiate. Impulsiveness is not a trait we need the President to practice, just too much at stake.
Bachmann in total meltdown!
Sad and pathetic.
Foolish statements on all counts. Too many here watching for you to play so loose with the facts.
Perry had a very similar situation to Michele’s “foot in mouth” at the last Texas Governor debate where Deb Medina self destructed not knowing when to shut up admitting she was a libertarian Truther. Maybe Michele watched that debate too many times training for these debates and got scared and foolish or then again she may just be angling for Mutt’s VP.
I'm threading about HPV not Perry or Backmann, okay? I guess you should be threading at Salon.com.
Its something that could potentially have dangerous side effects, Bachmann replied.
And there may be tiny flying pink unicorns on Neptune. Maybe it’s possible and nobody proved that they don’t exist!
Show me, don’t tell me. You’re not a doctor? Then find one and ASK him.
Mitt doesn’t want her. He may want someone from the south who can attract the hispanic vote.
Right on! Good post!
‘That whole pray the gay away thing, I dont get it, Leno said’
Leno seems like he’s mocking people who pray.
“If anyone saw that interview, it was not good for Bachmann.”
I saw it, and thought she did great. In fact, I posted yesterday that I thought it would make her poll ratings increase (at least with conservatives).
“If anyone saw that interview, it was not good for Bachmann. It was very uncomfortable and Leno was being a real hard ass. I dont think it left a good impression on the people who watch that type of show about Bachmann.”
I usually like Leno - I think he’s actually rather conservative in real life, at least as far as comics go.
Can’t stand Letterman, though. He’s a true lefty, is mean-spirited, and indeed makes Leno look conservative for sure.
Mitt wants Rubio.
“Mitt wants Rubio.”
Pretty much ALL of them want Rubio. It could win the important Hispanic vote. To listen to the pundits, BHO’s peed in the punch bowl where Jews are concerned (finally!).
Hey, that Chris Matthews can pick ‘em, can’t he?
Actually, I feel sorry for her. She has now crashed AND burned. What’s next, drawn and quartered?
“Women need to make sure they’re marrying circumcised man.”
That’s the stupidest remark I’ve ever heard on FR...makes me not want to come here anymore...geeeesh...some of you guys.....geeeeesh
She’s a tenacious individual.
Dont Care about either,she is Going down fast. Get on the Issues People care about or get out of the way
Good for Ms. Bachmann.
SHE speaks for patients’ rights.
The RINO Rick (Captain Gardasil)? Not so much.
Epidemiological studies show women who marry circumcised men, and woman who have fewer number of sexual contacts have much lower rates of cervical cancer.
Having jumped the shark, Michelle (the conservative, not the Wookie) is proceeding to make a fool of herself.
When the match burns your fingers, let go
I've met her in Minnesota. She very, very impressive. I can't think of a better candidate right now.
As has been explained numerous times, Opt-out enabled the vaccination to be paid by insurance. Opt-in would have made the vaccination “optional” and not covered by insurance and possibly too expensive for some families who may have wanted the protection for their daughters.
Whether a parent OK’d or refused the vaccine, no child was required to take the vaccination to attend public school.
Regardless.... this is a subject that is going nowhere, just like MB. Yes indeed it will bring down one of the candidates, Bachmann, but not because of the validity of the vaccine, because it showed a blatant lack of good judgment by Bachmann who has become desperate for anything to re-energize her faltering acceptance by voters.
Gardasil Perry signed his fascist EDICT in 2007.
How about we examine the FACTS from 2006?
2006 population of women per the census was 151,795,031.
Number of cervical cancer cases
diagnosed in 2005 per the CDC was 11,999.
That means that 00.07904% of women
were diagnosed with cervical cancer.
Number of deaths by cervical cancer in 2005 were 3,924.
Percentage of deaths were 00.00258%.
The problem is
1. Long term effects of Gardasil are still unknown.
2. This drug was not adequately tested on girls given
its known side-effects
3. Cervical cancer is both curable if early, and uncommon.
The NET Benefit of a medical treatment is
NET BENEFIT = (Risk with NO treatment)*(the net benefit of the treatment) - (The risk of harm).
Now the total incidence of cervical cancer was
given above, and the risk of harm is
still ongoing and increasing.
Bottom line: In this light, what RINO Perry did
cannot be excused.
He should admit that. End his RINOhood.
What Bachmann did was correct.
So, have Perry, and his supporters on this
thread addressed this? [..........crickets]
Paying the RINO Perry has been a GREAT investment by MERCK.
The PerryBOTs scream that Gardasil CURES cancer.
MERCK could NEVER have gotten away with that lie
in ITS labeling.
But for the company to have a viral group of sycophant RINOs mutating “may prevent a viral infection”
to “cures cancer” and then broadcasting the falsehood
and then spamming the falsehood endlessly
has been worth RUBIES and PLATINUM to MERCK.
Michelle’s only mistake was coming on Jay Leno’s show in the first place. He is pond scum of the lowest order. (Sorry if I offended any amoebas out there)
Regardless, the protection against the most prevalent forms of HPV viruses along with the potential loss of life associated with it makes it a reasonable risk.
PAP smears are a normal procedure that is both necessary and affordable. The idea that a vaccine eliminates a normalproceedure is never a concern for approval of a vaccine.
The requirements for the law required that girls had to be vaccinated at twelve. This eliminates the need for vaccination at 9 years old. Regardless, if given at nine the likely hood of significant risk are minor if any. The benefits being increased because unfortunately so many young girls are sexually active, many even at the age of twelve and thirteen.
One study is no reason to forgo the benefits of a vaccine. Further study as to it's effectiveness should continue. As of now the benefits far exceed the potential risks. You have to remember that as many as 7 - 10 percent of the population is a carrier of the HPV virus.
According to the VAIRS site
“Concerns have been raised about reports of deaths occurring in individuals after receiving Gardasil. As of June 30, 2008, 20 deaths had been reported to VAERS. There was not a common pattern to the deaths that would suggest they were caused by the vaccine. In cases where autopsy, death certificate and medical records were available, the cause of death was explained by factors other than the vaccine.”
FURTHER: ON (GBS)
“To date, there is no evidence that Gardasil has has increased the rate of GBS above that expected in the population. While we continue to carefully analyze all reports of GBS submitted to VAERS, the data do not currently suggest an association between Gardasil and GBS.”
As far as Blood Clots are concerned:
“Thromboembolic disorders (blood clots) have been reported to VAERS in people who have received Gardasil. Most of these individuals had risk factors for blood clots, such as use of oral contraceptives which are known to increase the risk of clotting.”
“Based on the review of available information by FDA and CDC, Gardasil continues to be safe and effective, and its benefits continue to outweigh its risks.”
“This vaccine is an important cervical cancer prevention tool that will potentially benefit the health of millions of women. Every year, about 12,000 women are diagnosed with cervical cancer and almost 4,000 die from this disease in the United States. Worldwide, cervical cancer is the second most common cancer in women, causing an estimated 470,000 new cases and 233,000 deaths per year.”
This information is widely available and has been taken directly from the CDC. This is the best information available and the risks are significantly less than crossing a busy street in any major city in this country.
This is an important drug that saves lives.
The fact is that as much as I like Ms.. Bachman, she is absolutely wrong in her response to Governor Perry. He was well intentioned and this entire line of debate is a complete distraction from what we should be discussing. The abysmal performance of Obama and how each of the candidates intends on reversing the disaster of a presidency.