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Why I let my son live as a girl
UK Daily Mail ^ | Helen Weathers

Posted on 09/18/2011 10:56:24 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

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These absurd stories seem to be growing by numbers. This is deranged.

(admins: headline was shortened to fit)

1 posted on 09/18/2011 10:56:30 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

puke


2 posted on 09/18/2011 11:01:57 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: ConservativeStatement

The letter to the Romans, chapters 1 and 3, in living color.


3 posted on 09/18/2011 11:05:46 PM PDT by lurk
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To: ConservativeStatement
Hell, I have a middle of the back pony tail. But I dang sure don't 'swish it' except to swat flies.

Someone needs to lay off the estrogen.

/johnny

4 posted on 09/18/2011 11:06:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Yes, there’s always a hidden back story, like
the parents wanted a girl. They UK media
would never write about these details.
Doesn’t fit the militant agenda.


5 posted on 09/18/2011 11:08:33 PM PDT by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Poor kid, talk about having real identity issues in the future. If she pretends this all throughout her life, what an injustice to oneself or even for others. Too bad, people cannot like the way that God created them. Looks like the parent could had encouraged this as the child has confusion.


6 posted on 09/18/2011 11:08:46 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: JRandomFreeper

I used to have long hair as well. About down to mid-back.


7 posted on 09/18/2011 11:09:28 PM PDT by wastedyears (Of course you realize, this means war.)
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To: Christie at the beach

that should read he not she/getting late.


8 posted on 09/18/2011 11:10:27 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: ConservativeStatement

Ah gee, another weirdo parent.


9 posted on 09/18/2011 11:13:13 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: WKTimpco
Yes, there’s always a hidden back story

Like naming your baby daughter Stanley because you wanted a son?


10 posted on 09/18/2011 11:15:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: Christie at the beach

What lavatory will he/she enter?


11 posted on 09/18/2011 11:16:46 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Christie at the beach
You helped, talking about him as her.

He's got dangly bits. Knocking the knees and wafting in the breeze. So it's a he.

It's male.

I'm male, have a pony tail (long) and might occasionally wear a skirt and play bagpipes.

But I do have those fiddy bits hanging outside.

It's a matter of plumbing, ya see.

Outies are boys, innies are girls.

When, dear Lord, did they leave off teaching that little secret?

/johnny

12 posted on 09/18/2011 11:16:46 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Eleutheria5
What lavatory will he/she enter?

Not mine. Occupado! No descuto!

I'm pretty firm about throne time.

And can use languages from several countries to enforce that.

/johnny

13 posted on 09/18/2011 11:20:41 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Hell, I have a middle of the back pony tail. But I dang sure don’t ‘swish it’ except to swat flies.”

swat flies with your hair?


14 posted on 09/18/2011 11:22:19 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Thank you, Bob!)
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To: WKTimpco

It’s darn hard to really raise a boy bent on being a boy, as a girl. Usually the gender instinct is pretty strong. He’ll take the Barbie dolls and pretend they’re guns, going rat-a-tat-a-tat. His girl counterpart, in the meantime, will be having tea with G.I. Joe.

Sometimes things go out of kilter for a myriad of cumulative reasons, the boy fixates on girl things and makes them his world. Or vice versa. I have a hunch that family cruelty plays a role in a lot of these scenarios, where people feel vastly uncomfortable with who they are so they escape to a fantasy identity.


15 posted on 09/18/2011 11:22:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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Hell, I have a middle of the back pony tail. But I dang sure don't 'swish it' except to swat flies.

That's a lot of back hair!

16 posted on 09/18/2011 11:23:51 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

An imprint went seriously wrong there.


17 posted on 09/18/2011 11:26:39 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: ari-freedom
You betcha. After I went back into the military after 9/11, I played heck for a couple of months for not being able to swat flies landing on my face or shoulder.

Now that I'm civilian again, I can snap my head around and kill flies dead.

You ever watch horses deal with flies? That tail ain't just for pretty. Same technique. I just had to study it for a while.

/johnny

18 posted on 09/18/2011 11:28:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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What lavatory will he/she enter?

Anyone 'it' wants. Nobody else's feelings or concerns will be given a moments thought.

19 posted on 09/18/2011 11:28:50 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Netizen
LOL! Head hair to the middle of my back. In a pony tail, or braided, most of the time.

I did leave that a little ambigious, though.

/johnny

20 posted on 09/18/2011 11:31:10 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ConservativeStatement
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21 posted on 09/18/2011 11:31:52 PM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
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To: Netizen
Nobody else's feelings or concerns will be given a moments thought.

Right up until he gets 'splained about polite behavior.

Which is 2 seconds after he's face-to-face with me.

Nobody, ever, disturbs my throne time.

/johnny

22 posted on 09/18/2011 11:36:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I figured that was what you meant.

Just thought I’d see if you were paying attention. :)


23 posted on 09/18/2011 11:38:54 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: freejohn
Poor little Elmer needs to feel his inner grumpbastard and act on it.

And that's all I'm allowed to say about that.

/johnny

24 posted on 09/18/2011 11:40:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The phenomenon known in animals as imprinting becomes more complex in people because unlike animals, people can reason. That provides a whole new dimension in which things can go wrong.


25 posted on 09/18/2011 11:46:15 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Netizen
Oy! looking at the picture in post 21, I'd have to worry about the guy growing a mustache and figuring out he's been conned for years and getting angry.

It's best to raise boys as boys, and girls, as girls.

This avoids all the axe murder unpleasantness when the kids figure out that you need professional help.

/johnny

26 posted on 09/18/2011 11:46:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: freejohn
I see axe murderer in someone's future.

/johnny

27 posted on 09/18/2011 11:55:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I went to read the article. Here’s the problem.

He liked to dress up in my skirts and spray my perfume. Other people would say: “Oh, don’t worry, it’s a phase, he’ll grow out of it.’’

‘But we weren’t worried. Phillip and I felt the same way. If our child liked girls’ things, then he could have whatever he wanted. We just thought: “So what?”

‘It did become a problem when it came to presents, having to tell our families: “Would you mind not buying boys’ stuff for Sam, because he’d prefer Mermaid Barbie.”


They didn’t let him outgrow it and in fact encouraged it by telling people to purchase girlie things for him.

There’s a picture of him wearing a green princess dress for his 6th birthday. Gee where did he get that dress. He sure didn’t go buy it himself.


28 posted on 09/18/2011 11:58:17 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Netizen

If this becomes a trend, there will be four types of public loos: Male, Female, Neither/Both, and Wheelchair Access.


29 posted on 09/18/2011 11:59:30 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

A scalpel can de-dangle but ain’t no way to change genetics. ;) Mommy should be shot for the abuse she is committing and junior will need decades of mental help to deprogram him.

I went to school with a guy whose mother pulled this crap on him when he was much younger...she wanted a girl so she made one out of her son. It did not end well when he later, in drag, picked up a drunk hunter in a hick town bar. He barely survived when that particular hunt turned up some unexpected ‘extras’.

This is as evil as it gets.


30 posted on 09/19/2011 12:01:13 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Normie - Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Eleutheria5

There will just be one bathroom, large enough for wheelchairs.

What gets me is that if the mother had him dressed in a white communion dress she would be charged with abuse.


31 posted on 09/19/2011 12:04:36 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Netizen

Blood, mother! Blood!


32 posted on 09/19/2011 12:08:03 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Netizen
Slow motion murder, and you can't do anything to stop it.

It sucks to be a dad or an NCO these days, unless you blow off the PC crap, and call a spade for a spade.

And that's the moral equivalent to eating babies. (some NCOs do eat babies for breakfast)

/johnny

33 posted on 09/19/2011 12:09:15 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

They can also be unreasonable, self-absorbed, and stupid.


34 posted on 09/19/2011 12:10:14 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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This is as evil as it gets.

That is God's own truth.

/johnny

35 posted on 09/19/2011 12:11:18 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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‘To have told him, “Pull yourself together, act like a boy,” would have been tantamount to child abuse.

I want my children to be able to express themselves freely, to be who they are, not what I want them to be.’


So, they have the school tell the other kids to NOT think or express themselves freely, by making them address a boy as a girl from now on. Forcing everyone else to play in their charade. Why is ‘their’ freedom more important than all the other kids’?


36 posted on 09/19/2011 12:15:06 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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“There’s a picture of him wearing a green princess dress for his 6th birthday. Gee where did he get that dress. He sure didn’t go buy it himself.”

Exactly. One of my sons has a dramatic streak. When he was about three he saw some cute little sparkley tutus at the store. He lobbied HARD for one of those sparkly tutus, especially a pink one! LOL! I told him no, Daddy would have a cow if I brought home one of those tutus for him. Same son startled me one day at a playdate by dressing up in his female friend’s princess outfit. Yikes! (He did look awfully pretty, though. :)

What I realized from these incidents was not that he was “really” a girl, but that he really likes fancy clothes! So I got him and his brother some fancy clothes for *boys* — cute pirate outfits, sparkly knight-in-shining-armor outfits, etc.

Lo and behold, no more asking for tutus or dressing up in princess dresses. All he wanted was the clothes, not gender reassignment!


37 posted on 09/19/2011 12:20:26 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ("And I'm actually happy to be, for us to be the moat with alligators party." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: Netizen

But what if they freely trounce the living daylights out of him whenever the playground monitor isn’t looking, and then return and look shocked that anyone should do such a thing in broad daylight? Innocent, cherubic faces, as Livvy accuses them each. How long will Livvy remain Livvy? Will his mummy let him morph back to Sam?


38 posted on 09/19/2011 12:21:40 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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She took Livvy to their GP, explaining her son felt she was really a girl, and was referred to Birmingham Children’s Hospital, where blood tests showed her chromosomes were normal.

Already fretting about the onset of puberty, Livvy says she is ‘freaking out’ over the thought of developing facial hair and can’t bear the thought of her voice breaking.

So Saffron is looking into hormone therapy to block the development of masculine traits, but says that is a couple of years away and, besides, who knows what the future holds.

As for the teenage years when Livvy’s female friends are dating boys, the family would rather cross that bridge when they reach it. They haven’t even begun to think about the possibility of transgender surgery.


I’m afraid you may be right, this may not end well.


39 posted on 09/19/2011 12:22:35 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Eleutheria5

What if the girls also reject him, too?


40 posted on 09/19/2011 12:22:49 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Netizen
I can do child abuse. The US taxpayer paid me for a little while to make 18 year old males understand.

And two and three and four, LEFT, DAMMIT, LEFT! Pick up a rock and put it in your LEFT hand. YOUR MILITARY LEFT HAND!

It's hard to watch that when you took care of so many.

/johnny

41 posted on 09/19/2011 12:24:50 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Yep! I think at a certain age and quite young, they want to start picking out their own clothes, and most stores carry 5 times as much girl stuff as boys. Its just a matter of finding the right boy’s store to suit their tastes.


42 posted on 09/19/2011 12:27:08 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Eleutheria5

They have been programmed to think it’s ‘cool’.


43 posted on 09/19/2011 12:27:41 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Normie - Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Eleutheria5

She says she would. I think something will have to give before then though. Lets say some guy doesn’t know, just how do you explain that one? If he thinks he was lonely as a 6 year old, wait til the teen years and dating.


44 posted on 09/19/2011 12:30:19 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

What happens when the kid starts growing serious facial hair and his voice changes?


45 posted on 09/19/2011 12:36:44 AM PDT by Nepeta
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If he thinks he was lonely as a 6 year old, wait til the teen years and dating.

And that's why we have barracks for young men, waiting to turn into plaster saints.

It never works out that way, but it's been the way for over 300 years. Kipling wrote about it.

/johnny

46 posted on 09/19/2011 12:37:45 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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All the programming in the world will not make him “cool,” except when teacher’s looking. In the private, tribal, barbarous hell of children when they’re on their own amongst each other, he will suffer terribly.


47 posted on 09/19/2011 12:38:23 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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What happens when the kid starts growing serious facial hair and his voice changes?

Axe murder is the best I can figure.

It won't be polite or pretty, however it works out.

/johnny

48 posted on 09/19/2011 12:39:55 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Iron Munro

“Like naming your baby daughter Stanley because you wanted a son?”

Bingo. And now you know the rest
of the st0ry.


49 posted on 09/19/2011 1:10:28 AM PDT by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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To: Eleutheria5

I totally agree. I’m just saying that gay/wannabee oppositesexuals are the new fashion accessory for the modern PC teenaged/20something set. The age-targeted media is filled with just how ‘cool’ it is and how much ‘cooler’ those that play along are than those backward normal people like us.


50 posted on 09/19/2011 1:10:39 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Normie - Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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