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Reno Race Accident Investigation Continues
Aero News Network ^ | Mon, Sep 19, 2011 | staff

Posted on 09/19/2011 7:18:13 AM PDT by PilotDave

The NTSB has recovered 'components' which may be part of the P-51's horizontal stab and elevator... possibly even the elevator trim tab, which is a specified point of inquiry (as noted in previous ANN reports).

The NTSB has received a significant amount of photographic and video evidence -- some of which show the process whereby the elevator trim tab separated from the horizontal stabilizer.

There is no evidence of the much-reported 'Mayday' call.

We are hearing a number of calls for additional regulation and FAA supervision... despite the fact that this is the first time in nearly 60 years that a spectator at an American aviation event has been killed. A quick perusal of a number of road racing events shows dozens of people/spectators killed as a result of their attendance at such exciting activities (and just in the last few years!)... there are spectator tragedies on record, as well, involving boat races, motorcycle races, BICYCLE races, sled races, ski races, horse races, you name it.

(Excerpt) Read more at aero-news.net ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: aviation; faa; jimmyleeward; ntsb; planecrash; reno; renoairraces
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To: yldstrk

I don’t think you read the article yldstrk. These are the first spectator fatalities at an airshow in the US in almost 60 years! There have been more spectators killed at bike and horse and ski races than at airshows. And Airshows draw millions and millions of spectators per year. Statistically, airshows are just about the safest place you can be.

If it were up to you then I guess nobody would ever see a ww 2 airplane fly again...


41 posted on 09/19/2011 8:12:48 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: I cannot think of a name

oh AND I can’t think

I highly doubt a stock car weighs 3500 pounds unless they have taken to racing SUVs......lol


42 posted on 09/19/2011 8:13:09 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

“well, the stockcar starts out on the ground.”

And where did the airplane start from?


44 posted on 09/19/2011 8:15:27 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: PilotDave
It only looked like a WW2 aircraft. It was a highly modified toy for an idiot to fly.

http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_18923258?source=pkg

45 posted on 09/19/2011 8:16:19 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: PilotDave

yep yep I read it Pilot Dave. And your defense of flying old rattletraps around crowds of people is typical of you being a pilot. You have the Alexander Haig syndrome “I am in control”

They can see the old planes close up and personal on the ground and even get to go inside.

Cool ones too like the Blackbird


46 posted on 09/19/2011 8:17:14 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

“I highly doubt a stock car weighs 3500 pounds unless they have taken to racing SUVs......lol”

Ah, as I suspected, you know nothing more about auto racing than you do about air racing.

A Nascar Cup car has to weigh 3400 pounds without the driver. I guess if Danica shows up next year and only weighs 90 pounds, than maybe there will be one below 3500 pounds.


47 posted on 09/19/2011 8:18:26 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: PilotDave

but that is beside the point Pilot Dave and you know it. When the plane fails it is in the air. Smart pilots crash themselves into places where noone gets hurt, not into a crowd of Moms and Dads and kids.


48 posted on 09/19/2011 8:19:17 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: PilotDave
...That’s one of the images that doesn’t look right to me. Photshopped?...

I grabbed it from the Seattle Times.

49 posted on 09/19/2011 8:19:28 AM PDT by FReepaholic (I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

really. do you have a cite for that?

Knock me down with a feather


50 posted on 09/19/2011 8:21:22 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Mamzelle

“narcissistic jackass”

You must be describing yourself? The article says no such thing. The qualities attributed apply to most all pilots. So do you just hate pilots?


51 posted on 09/19/2011 8:23:29 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: yldstrk
"Pilots are a special breed of confident, intelligent, driven perfectionists," said Ken Quick, a commercial airline pilot and a crew member for one of the teams that raced Friday. "They know what they do is dangerous and demanding, and they eagerly embrace both."

This is from the article I have posted a couple of times in this thread. How I laughed with I read it...this is so typical hobby pilot. They can never open their mouths except to praise themselves.

The plane wasn't a quaint relic, that would slow Flyboy Jimmy down. He cut the wings down and changed the whole aircraft, bearing nothing from the antique except the sentimentality.

52 posted on 09/19/2011 8:24:54 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I wonder if the Brits had the same problem with the Dehaviland Mosquito?


53 posted on 09/19/2011 8:25:51 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: yldstrk

“Smart pilots crash themselves into places where noone gets hurt,”

The definition of “out of control” is NO control. If the tail failed as it seems to have, he was just along for the ride. And probably being crushed by a 20G turn...


54 posted on 09/19/2011 8:29:18 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: FReepaholic

He was beamed out by some aliens!


55 posted on 09/19/2011 8:30:28 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: PilotDave
I know a few rich liberal HOBBY pilots who wouldn't mind putting others in danger just to show off...

Well, I just love how hobby pilots argue. "Are you describing yourself?" Oh, such wit, so droll! "I'm rubber, your'e glue, what you say bounces off me and sticks to you."

I'm very familiar with the bad temper a hobby pilot displays whenever one is called on their vanity and recklessness. It is so easy to provoke...

I think flying a poorly-test highly-modified, and very recently modified at that, aircraft over a crowd shows a JERK of the highest order.

56 posted on 09/19/2011 8:31:31 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: yldstrk

amongst other places

http://nascar.about.com/od/nascar101/f/nascarracecar.htm


57 posted on 09/19/2011 8:32:22 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: yldstrk

Hey stickguy, I’m starting to think you aren’t the best lawyer in town.

Google is your friend..

The average nascar car weighs 3400lbs ready to race. Then add driver.

Now apologize.


58 posted on 09/19/2011 8:34:00 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Mamzelle

“I think flying a poorly-test highly-modified, and very recently modified at that, aircraft over a crowd shows a JERK of the highest order.”

Especially when you consider that every one of those people had a gun put to their head and was FORCED to sit there.

There is a perfectly simple solution for you and others like you - DON’T GO. Nobody will force you.


59 posted on 09/19/2011 8:35:15 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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