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Perry to meet with Hispanics and speak out for Israel on fundraising trip to NYC
CBS ^ | September 19, 2011 | Sarah B. Boxer

Posted on 09/19/2011 12:56:16 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

NEW YORK - Rick Perry, on a two-day swing to raise campaign funds here, also appears to be hoping to rob the Democrats of votes.

The Republican presidential candidate is scheduled to meet Monday afternoon in Harlem with Hispanic leaders.

Some members of the Hispanic community have been disenchanted with President Obama because he has failed to deliver on his promise to enact a sweeping immigration reform bill.

While none of the Republican presidential hopefuls has expressed support for giving some of the estimated 11 million people now living in the U.S. illegally a path to citizenship, Perry has broken with Republican conservative orthodoxy on immigration.

The Texas governor opposes extending the fence along the U.S.-Mexico border as impractical, and has backed offering in-state tuition to students in his state who were brought to the country illegally by their parents.

On Tuesday, Perry has scheduled a morning press conference to express support for Israel ahead of a speech Friday by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas at the United Nations, where he is expected to seek full U.N. membership for the Palestinian Authority. Israel opposes the recognition.

President Obama is also opposing the Palestinian request, but his support for a Palestinian state, based on Israel returning some of the land it acquired after the 1967 war with its Arab neighbors, has aroused strong opposition among conservatives and became an issue in a New York City special congressional election which Republican Bob Turner won last week in an upset.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; economy; gopprimary; hispanicvote; ny2012; onetermobama; perry2012
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United we stand.
1 posted on 09/19/2011 12:56:18 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; shield

Gov. Perry at Harvey’s Bakery and Coffee Shop in Dover, N.H.
2 posted on 09/19/2011 1:00:03 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
United we stand.

If you mean "United we stand with Illegals", then yeah, you got that right.
3 posted on 09/19/2011 1:00:03 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Hispanics haven’t figured out that Rick Perry does their bidding by now, they’re incapable of understanding it. If only Slovaks were here in greater numbers illegally! *sigh* Bob


4 posted on 09/19/2011 1:01:38 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Estimated 11 million illegals? That’s at the low end.


5 posted on 09/19/2011 1:01:59 PM PDT by wastedyears (Of course you realize, this means war.)
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To: SoConPubbie

United we stand as a country against the destruction of the United States of America.


6 posted on 09/19/2011 1:02:24 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
United we stand as a country against the destruction of the United States of America.

Until Perry drops the Open-Border nonsense, he's part of the problem, not part of the solution.
7 posted on 09/19/2011 1:03:58 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

If he meets them to pander to Hispanics, I will have a major problem.

If he meets them and convinces them to see “our” ways as the best way forward for that community to become prosperous, I am all for it.

Key is to get as many of them as possible to not vote Obama.


8 posted on 09/19/2011 1:04:24 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: SoConPubbie

Maybe you should stop thinking of all Hispanics as “illegals,” which is obviously what is going through your mind. Most of them where I live are legal, certainly most of them in New York are legal and are second or third generation (Dominicans and Puerto Ricans particularly). The big illegal groups in a lot of places are actually Africans, Albanians and various Asians, but I doubt that they’re what you’re talking about.

The Dominicans rescued the New York City parks from the thugs. Nobody would go into the parks in upper Manhattan because the thugs would appear immediately to rob, rape or kill you. The Dominicans got there, and they were not about to let anybody prevent them for having huge birthday parties and fiestas in the parks. And since the Dominicans are never without their knives and are really good at using them, the thugs finally realized they had met their match and gave up. Then the rest of us started creeping back into the parks - thanks to the Dominican and other Caribbean immigrants.


9 posted on 09/19/2011 1:06:41 PM PDT by livius
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To: SoConPubbie
Until Perry drops the Open-Border nonsense, he's part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Gov. Perry is for a sealed border.

10 posted on 09/19/2011 1:07:36 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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“Perry ... to express support for Israel”

For everything but their wall I suppose.

http://www.vtjp.org/background/wallgraphics.htm


11 posted on 09/19/2011 1:07:49 PM PDT by tumblindice ("No border fence." Rick Perry.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Hispanics are very entrepreneurial and the dream of every Hispanic immigrant is to have his own business. Encouraging this is not “pandering.”

Frankly, if I were Hispanic, I’d take one look at this forum with its seething hatred of Hispanics and decide that I wasn’t welcome in the GOP at all. Making people feel welcome is not “pandering.”


12 posted on 09/19/2011 1:09:00 PM PDT by livius
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To: indianrightwinger
.....If he meets them and convinces them to see “our” ways as the best way forward for that community to become prosperous, I am all for it....

Gov. Perry has consistently said, conservative ascendancy is how to fight back.

13 posted on 09/19/2011 1:09:14 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: indianrightwinger

I’d rather have 1 hard-working Catholic hispanic in this country over a million pro-gay white college kiddies


14 posted on 09/19/2011 1:09:26 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Thank you, Bob!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Excuse me, but there are Americans of hispanic descent. My husband is one of them. Born and raised in the good old USA - parents from Puerto Rico. He's as conservative as they come and totally against illegal Mexican immigration. You can't paint all hispanics with a broad brush.
15 posted on 09/19/2011 1:09:51 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: wastedyears

Maybe that’s just a sign of the bad economy. When the economy crashed, the growing hispanic population here also cratered.


16 posted on 09/19/2011 1:12:41 PM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

17 posted on 09/19/2011 1:14:52 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: livius

Hyphenated Americans are the problem.


18 posted on 09/19/2011 1:15:28 PM PDT by Palter (Even liberals need jobs.)
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To: livius

Yeah, we’re all haters, skin-head racists, homophobes and religious nuts bitterly clinging to our guns.
Go peddle your papers over at DU.


19 posted on 09/19/2011 1:15:38 PM PDT by tumblindice ("No border fence." Rick Perry.)
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To: tumblindice
“Perry ... to express support for Israel” For everything but their wall I suppose.

One of Rick Perry’s first acts after being elected agriculture commissioner in 1991 was to create the Texas-Israel Exchange, which promoted information and research sharing. Perry has been to Israel several times. He has gone to the Gaza strip and studied how they use drones to patrol. He has asked the U.S. Federal government to use drones on the U.S.-Mexican border. Perry knows that a "fence" or wall works -- and has said they work in urban areas. Israel has walls but they don't have a wall 2000 miles long.

20 posted on 09/19/2011 1:15:48 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: livius

Amen..


21 posted on 09/19/2011 1:16:40 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: livius
Hispanics are very entrepreneurial and the dream of every Hispanic immigrant is to have his own business. Encouraging this is not “pandering.”

Frankly, if I were Hispanic, I’d take one look at this forum with its seething hatred of Hispanics and decide that I wasn’t welcome in the GOP at all. Making people feel welcome is not “pandering.”

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22 posted on 09/19/2011 1:16:44 PM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Exactly.


23 posted on 09/19/2011 1:17:21 PM PDT by dforest
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To: livius

By the way, what’s a “Hispanic’? Is that La Raza?


24 posted on 09/19/2011 1:17:55 PM PDT by tumblindice ("No border fence." Rick Perry.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s just more more lip service.


26 posted on 09/19/2011 1:19:35 PM PDT by tumblindice ("No border fence." Rick Perry.)
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Perry is scheduled to meet Monday afternoon in Harlem with Hispanic leaders.

How racist is this?

WTF is this all about?

When is Perry scheduled to meet with White Leaders?

28 posted on 09/19/2011 1:22:48 PM PDT by dragnet2 ((Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: F15Eagle

The article is about Perry meeting with hispanics in NYC. Right away some people bring up the illegal issue. I don’t think the article is saying he’s meeting with Pancho who came across the border in the dark of night.


29 posted on 09/19/2011 1:23:29 PM PDT by jersey117
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Perry on immigration:
http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Rick_Perry_Immigration.htm

Gingrich :
http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Newt_Gingrich_Immigration.htm

Cain :
http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Herman_Cain_Immigration.htm

Palin:
http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Sarah_Palin_Immigration.htm


30 posted on 09/19/2011 1:23:29 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: dragnet2

White leaders met with Perry at the Tea Party debate.

He got booed over his snarky little remark when talking about the Texas Dream Act.

He doesn’t pander to them US non hispanics that look kinda white.


31 posted on 09/19/2011 1:27:32 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If you want an `eye-opener’ on the cost and benefits of unregulated immigration/open borders, read Mark Steyn’s latest book.
You Perry cheerleaders’ arguments are weak. You just want to kick this can down the road to our children. And our children are going to angry enough with us when we get up from the table and leave them the bill for what’s happening now, much less having to deal then with another 10-20 per cent of Mexico’s, say 30 or 40 million hungry, ailing cast-offs expecting that los Estados Unidos are Mexico’s Dept. of Health, Education and Welfare.
Let’s start paying off our own debts before piling even more on the backs of the next generation.


32 posted on 09/19/2011 1:29:14 PM PDT by tumblindice ("No border fence." Rick Perry.)
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Scp didn’t say Hispanics but rather illegals -

True, but the article said Hispanics, and SCP immedieately made it about illegals.

34 posted on 09/19/2011 1:31:25 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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legal immigration is just fine

Really, so you're cool with them tripling legal immigration levels?

35 posted on 09/19/2011 1:32:33 PM PDT by triumphant values
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When is Perry scheduled to meet with White Leaders?

Never. White gentiles aren't allowed to have ethnic interests or countries to themselves, therefore they don't need "leaders".

36 posted on 09/19/2011 1:35:49 PM PDT by triumphant values
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To: tumblindice

I would like to answer you but you have not asked a question.

What are you talking about?

Do you know something I don’t?

What has Gov. Perry said that supports your comment?

Perry wants conservative ascendancy not continued social engineering and an open border.

He wants government to get out of the way and let people invest and make money — drive the economy.

He wants the EPA to back off.

He wants energy independence.

He wants trial lawyers to stop over suing.

He wants taxes lowered.

He wants what we all want.


37 posted on 09/19/2011 1:38:34 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: triumphant values
Legal immigration is completely out of control and should have been totally reformed 20+ years ago...

Millions of Americans completely out of work, jammed roads, hospitals, limited resources, etc, and what's this corrupt government do? These SOBs import tens of thousands of Muslims, and hundreds of thousands from God knows where on a routine basis... Good for us?

Why don't the government just start carpet bombing us?

Those who wish to complain about this country killing lunacy, contact the White House or House of Representatives. Be sure to press 1 for English..

Spit*

39 posted on 09/19/2011 1:39:07 PM PDT by dragnet2 ((Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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where is the triple in my statement?

It's not there which is the point. You just said it was "fine" without any qualifications.

I see that so much on FR that "illegal immigration bad, legal immigration good". We have had major problems with legal immigration in this country.

It's no where near good at the current levels. It's national suicide even without the illegal aliens.

40 posted on 09/19/2011 1:42:53 PM PDT by triumphant values
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Some Hispanics are entrepreneurial. Some are collecting Medicaid and Welfare checks through their children being born here and also obtain free medical care through EMTALA.

If I were Hispanic, I would acknowledge the problem with 20 million illegal immigrants the vast majority being Hispanic and understand the consternation by Conservative American citizens.

41 posted on 09/19/2011 1:43:00 PM PDT by Blackandproud
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To: tumblindice

Good gad, give it a rest! As Perry said, and can be applied here, “one size doesn’t fit all”, “one size for gym socks” should not be the same for all immigrant conditions.
Not all Mexicans deserve your gym socks treatment, as they are hardly ALL radical, marxist, drug totin, gun runnin’ anchor baby plottin’, La Raza lovin’, welfare sucking Mexicans! The USA is no longer America if you think for a minute we are going to do your “trains thing” and round up all of the illegals and ship them wholesale back to Mexico. Snap out of it! We can make those determinations with a little more finess than that, for crying out loud.


43 posted on 09/19/2011 1:54:16 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: triumphant values
Never. White gentiles aren't allowed to have ethnic interests or countries to themselves, therefore they don't need "leaders".

How weird. Just the other day they were reporting that Perry was a racist.

Rick Perry's Confederate past [Salon "exclusive" that gets it wrong]

THEN Hispanics "don't like" Perry.

Rick Perry's Jose Cuervo joke at Latino convention bombs in Texas, as governor mulls 2012 GOP bid

The FACT OF THE MATTER is LIBERALS don't like Perry, whatever their stripe.

AND MORE:

Jul. 02, 2011:"...But his embrace of the voter ID and sanctuary city bills has threatened a backlash among Hispanics, who accounted for 56 percent of the nation's population growth over the past decade.

Perry's push for the sonogram bill has fortified his long-standing ties to family values and pro-life groups but it has also made him a target from other circles.

"We would aggressively work to defeat him [Perry], of course," said Terry O'Neill, president of the National Organization for Women, which describes itself as non-partisan but typically backs Democrats. Star Telegram

44 posted on 09/19/2011 1:55:30 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dragnet2
In office November 22, 1963 – January 20, 1969 -- Lyndon B. Johnson succeeded to the presidency following the assassination of John F. Kennedy, completed Kennedy's term and was elected President in his own right, winning by a large margin in the 1964 Presidential election. Johnson was greatly supported by the Democratic Party and, as President, was responsible for designing the "Great Society" legislation that included laws that upheld civil rights, Public Broadcasting, Medicare, Medicaid, environmental protection, aid to education, and his "War on Poverty."
45 posted on 09/19/2011 1:58:46 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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While none of the Republican presidential hopefuls has expressed support for giving some of the estimated 11 million people now living in the U.S. illegally a path to citizenship, Perry has broken with Republican conservative orthodoxy on immigration.

What happened to the bogus lowball 12 million number the mainstream media has been using for the past 20 years?

46 posted on 09/19/2011 2:03:15 PM PDT by Godebert
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Haven’t heard much of that but the illegal lobby of so-called comprensive immigration reform has got to be ten times worse in numbers what with twenty or thirty million...

We'll get another about 20 million third-worlders through legal immigration in the next 15 years at current immigration rates. That's naturalized citizens. That's not even counting green cards.

2/3 of all legal immigration to the United States comes under our "family re-unification program". So the numbers on the illegal side really aren't ten times worse.

And I'm not here to harp on you. Most people have no idea the levels of legal immigration or where they come from or how they get here. You may not have known.

47 posted on 09/19/2011 2:06:58 PM PDT by triumphant values
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To: triumphant values

You’re behind the times. It isn’t immigration that is the concern now, it is the number of American voters (with Hispanic names) that will be LEGALLY voting very soon. Massive numbers. AND WE WANT them to be conservatives helping to drive free market capitalism, and succeeding, NOT crippled Democrats on the dole.

Those just are the facts.

Thank Lyndon B. Johnson.

Thank all those who refused to seal the border.

But facts are facts.

So we must deal with them.


48 posted on 09/19/2011 2:13:32 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Massive numbers. AND WE WANT them to be conservatives helping to drive free market capitalism...

Well, they're never going to be. Look around the world. 3 out of the 5 major political parties in Mexico belong to the Socialist International. Another is Maoist and their "conservative" party is to the left of our Democrats.

Look in your own country. Believe your own eyes. Conservatism was started by, nurtured by, and stays in existence frankly because of white people. Even most Jews want nothing to do with it.

No other ethnic group in history has ever had the majority of its members embrace the very novel ideal of the liberties of Englishmen. None, never.

Once you come to grips with this, you'll be much more effective in understanding the political landscape.

49 posted on 09/19/2011 2:21:29 PM PDT by triumphant values
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Politically very smart. I suggest he (same goes for Palin if she runs) also go into black neighborhoods and do the same. Time to ditch the hillbilly image people have of the GOP. As it stands today the 2012 election is Perry’s to lose. I will not mind a Texan back in the WH.


50 posted on 09/19/2011 2:26:37 PM PDT by toddausauras
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