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Vile: Ambulance chasing attorney sets up site for Reno Air Races crash victims

Posted on 09/19/2011 1:44:13 PM PDT by EveningStar

Edited on 09/19/2011 2:38:56 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: renoairraces

1 posted on 09/19/2011 1:44:16 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: PilotDave; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; ...
Aviation ping

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2 posted on 09/19/2011 1:46:25 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
That's weird. This is the lawyer who is running the site.


3 posted on 09/19/2011 1:46:35 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: EveningStar

Okay, I’m in.


4 posted on 09/19/2011 1:47:53 PM PDT by SkyDancer (A critic is like a legless man who teaches running.)
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To: EveningStar

Is it THAT surprising?

Reminds me about a funny video I saw yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQxv-kvTvMA


5 posted on 09/19/2011 1:49:42 PM PDT by ToxicMich
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To: EveningStar

You pinged Pukin Dog?

I understand. I always respected his aviation comments.


6 posted on 09/19/2011 1:51:34 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: EveningStar

Sounds like he’s a transplant from the East Coast.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgohbe_case-study-of-glen-j-lerner-associates-law-firm_news

http://www.lvrj.com/news/15347776.html


7 posted on 09/19/2011 1:52:02 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Attaaaack Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch!!!!! XD)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is mostly an old ping list that I copied from another FReeper’s profile page.


8 posted on 09/19/2011 1:55:05 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Found this, too:

http://lawmrh.wordpress.com/2011/02/11/chasing-ambulances-some-say-lawyers-latest-ad-crosses-taste-boundaries/


9 posted on 09/19/2011 1:56:55 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Attaaaack Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch!!!!! XD)
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To: EveningStar

Oh. OK. I thought maybe you were trying to make a statement or something.

lolol

Some people still do resent... Well, never mind. Won’t go picking at old scabs.


10 posted on 09/19/2011 1:58:54 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Responsibility2nd; EveningStar
You pinged Pukin Dog? I understand. I always respected his aviation comments.

Pukin' Dog submitted his Opus years ago.

11 posted on 09/19/2011 2:04:06 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: EveningStar

What a wonderful do-gooder shyster. Even wears his “charity” on his website for all to see what a great guy he is:

“I love this city, it’s been good to me.
I’ve always wanted to help the people around me
and now I have a chance to give back to the community.”

Glen J. Lerner


12 posted on 09/19/2011 2:07:20 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: EveningStar

What would anyone expect? People don’t go out for a Sunday event expecting to get killed, have their legs ripped off, and or get chainsawed by exploding shrapnel.

If people want to hold these events for personal profit, they’d better expect to be held personally responsible when things go bad.


13 posted on 09/19/2011 2:14:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 ((Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: EveningStar; ExTexasRedhead

For later read ......................................... FRegards


14 posted on 09/19/2011 2:17:42 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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To: EveningStar

As a pilot for 55 years and having attended 2 air races myself I have always felt that an accident like this was bound to happen some time. The problem with air races is the only way to protect the crowd completely is the front straight would have to be so far away that the crowds would not come.

With that in mind I believe the race promoters are very libel for what happened and the victims deserve a large award.

I also have a distaste for ambulance chasers when they are trying to bring cases for those that are not really injured. But this is not the case. The victims had every expectation that they would be safe. I believe the promoters knew better an were just taking a gamble with others lives.


15 posted on 09/19/2011 2:18:49 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: EveningStar

Glen J. Lerner

DEMOCRAT

http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/glen-lerner.asp?cycle=08


16 posted on 09/19/2011 2:21:51 PM PDT by barmag25 (How many pea's we gotta eat to get out of this mess?)
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To: EveningStar

Ping for later reading....


17 posted on 09/19/2011 2:22:32 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: EveningStar

Disgusting. This guy is so low, he needs an umbrella to keep the ants from peeing on him.


18 posted on 09/19/2011 2:23:58 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Okieshooter

I live in Reno and was a few miles from the air race when the incident happened. Last night one of my pastors told his story—he was about 100 ft. from impact.

Word around town about the future of the Reno Air Races is: the lawyers and insurance companies will decide its fate.


19 posted on 09/19/2011 2:26:28 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: EveningStar
This reminds me of Saul Goodman in Breaking Bad.


20 posted on 09/19/2011 2:29:55 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: dragnet2
If people want to hold these events for personal profit, they’d better expect to be held personally responsible when things go bad.

It will ultimately be the scumbag lawyers that get these events shut down........including military air shows. Will that make you happy?

21 posted on 09/19/2011 2:33:47 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (FREE YOUR BREASTS! FREE YOUR MIND!)
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To: EveningStar
why would anyone expect anything different? A scum bag doesn't suddenly develop class.
22 posted on 09/19/2011 2:40:57 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Hot Tabasco
What would anyone expect? People don’t go out for a Sunday event expecting to get killed, have their legs ripped off, and or get chainsawed by exploding shrapnel.

If people want to hold these events for personal profit, they’d better expect to be held personally responsible when things go bad.

It will ultimately be the scumbag lawyers that get these events shut down........including military air shows. Will that make you happy?

Not me, I like airshows, and have been to probably 25 of them and was at El Toro airshow during another crash.

I'm confident you'd be signing a completely different tune if your wife and daughter were there, which resulted with missing arms, legs, dead or brain damaged, and you were stuck with millions in medical expenses, mental stress etc.

Feel free to deny this.

23 posted on 09/19/2011 2:44:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 ((Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: Okieshooter
The problem with air races is the only way to protect the crowd completely is the front straight would have to be so far away that the crowds would not come.

The only solution to preventing an accident such as this is to ban air races completely. They are unnecessary, they pose a risk not only to the pilots themselves but to the spectators, no matter how far away from the course they are seated.

24 posted on 09/19/2011 2:44:47 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (FREE YOUR BREASTS! FREE YOUR MIND!)
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To: randog

I believe that this is the end of air racing. I know that Brent Hisey, pilot of Miss America said he is done even if they continue. I would not be surprised if other pilots feel the same.


25 posted on 09/19/2011 2:48:03 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: dragnet2
if your wife and daughter were there, which resulted with missing arms,

If my aunt had balls she would have been my uncle.........Yours is a false argument since I wasn't there nor were my wife or daughter.

But it's obvious where your thoughts lie........show me the money $$$$$!!!

26 posted on 09/19/2011 2:52:39 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (FREE YOUR BREASTS! FREE YOUR MIND!)
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To: EveningStar

Puke.


27 posted on 09/19/2011 3:21:05 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: dragnet2

” I’m confident you’d be signing a completely different tune if your wife and daughter were there,which resulted with missing arms,legs, dead or brain damaged,and you were stuck with millions in medical expenses,mental stress etc.”

There is an obvious element of risk in events such as this or nearly anything worth doing in life for that matter.

If this happened to me it would obviously be a tragedy but there is no one id blame but the sheer probability. Don’t want anything to happen? Stay home and live in a self contained bubble.

This “find someone to blame and destroy” mentality for every random tragedy is one if the main reasons for the bondage and ultimate decline for this one greatest of nations.


28 posted on 09/19/2011 3:21:05 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: Hot Tabasco
I wasn't there nor were my wife or daughter.

It was a hypothetical...You know, real people just like you, or your daughter, Mom, Dad etc...

Never mind, this is clearly beyond your scope.

29 posted on 09/19/2011 3:31:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 ((Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: varyouga

BS..


30 posted on 09/19/2011 3:35:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 ((Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: Hot Tabasco

>>The only solution to preventing an accident such as this is to ban air races completely. They are unnecessary, they pose a risk not only to the pilots themselves but to the spectators, no matter how far away from the course they are seated.<<

It’s obvious that you have never flown an airplane because that would violate the risk free society you seek. Shall we ban rodeos and football too? Occasionally there’s an injury at the horse races, let’s close their gates too. Don’t you believe that accidents are possible?

IMO, flying, having total control of the aircraft, is the closest thing to sex there is. I am not going to give up either of them.


31 posted on 09/19/2011 3:37:45 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: Sawdring

You beat me to it.... Better call Saul!!!!!!!!!


32 posted on 09/19/2011 3:43:43 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: B4Ranch
Shall we ban rodeos and football too?

Talk to Dragnet2, he's the one in favor of litigation..........

33 posted on 09/19/2011 3:54:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (FREE YOUR BREASTS! FREE YOUR MIND!)
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To: Hot Tabasco; B4Ranch
While Hot Tabasco desires these people and their family members who've been totally cut to pieces, shattered, lost limbs, brain damage etc, can just pay millions for their own life long medical treatments, mental stress...Tell the families tough luck...Make them shut up and pay up.

Good thinking Tabasco.

But the reality and truth is, if someone broadsides Tabasco and his family in some intersection leaving them broken and twisted for life, he'll be the first to sue for damages.

Bet the rent folks.

34 posted on 09/19/2011 4:09:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 ((Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: dragnet2
No, I just understand risk and probability. I choose to accept that if I am participating in a dangerous activity. Even if the organizer is stupid enough to not have a waiver in these finger-pointing times.

This is just one example- Air races and airshows feature high-speed low flying planes. Sometimes antique planes pushed to their limit. Failure of some kind or pilot error is guaranteed after enough flight hours. This is not a Sunday walk in the park. If you or your family are purposely near this danger, you accepted the rare but highly devastating risk that came with being there. There is no one to blame, not even yourself for bringing them there. The chance of this happening was close to zero.

I am probably more likely to get injured commuting to work here in NYC than at an air show. You can only TRY to remove yourself from all risk in life. Even then it would be a life not worth living.

35 posted on 09/19/2011 4:21:39 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

See 34. It’s applies to your Pollyanna comments too.


36 posted on 09/19/2011 4:23:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 ((Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: dragnet2
if someone broadsides Tabasco and his family in some intersection leaving them broken and twisted for life, he'll be the first to sue for damages.

It's easier to shut down the air shows than keep me and my family from driving..........

You want to hold the air shows liable then prepare to see them eventually shut down by their legal teams...........

As I said before, there is no purpose for these aircraft other than entertainment and there is no way to prevent accidents such as this from happening other than prevent them from flying............

So you make the choice, you want the shows or the legal liability?

37 posted on 09/19/2011 4:30:30 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (FREE YOUR BREASTS! FREE YOUR MIND!)
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To: EveningStar

Scumbag.Bottom sucking leech.


38 posted on 09/19/2011 4:46:30 PM PDT by bikerman
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To: Hot Tabasco
I could care less what they do, it's not up to me anyway.

Do you expect these busted, twisted and maimed people to pay millions in life long medical expenses at their own expense?

How about amusement park roller coaster accidents? Same thing, tough luck? Cover your own life long medical expenses? How about massive train collisions where hundreds are killed, maimed for life etc? How about airline crashes? Tough luck, you knew the risk of the wing falling off?

You don't have a clue WTF your talking about.

You going to stand up to these crippled and destroyed families from this incident and others, and tell them tough sh*t, you knew the risk, your on your own folks, because even though we're making personal profits we have absolutely no responsibility?

lol..

39 posted on 09/19/2011 4:52:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 ((Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: EveningStar

While everyone agrees this dirtbag should be a Jeffery Dahmer victim,
Is anyone surprised a lawyer does this?


40 posted on 09/19/2011 5:13:19 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (Majo)
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To: varyouga

Ok hypothetical. What if the pilot drank a twelve pack right before he knowingly climbed in the plane? What if he drank a case of beer with the promoter of the air show right before he took off? You certainly did not assume the risk for that.

More realistically. What if the promoter and pilot noticed a crack in a key component of the plane? And rather than run tests on it for safety, simply ignored the crack and took off? And what if that crack caused the accident? Did you assume the risk for that?

I’m a defense lawyer by trade and conviction, but disagree with your assume the risk arguments.


41 posted on 09/19/2011 5:25:55 PM PDT by Treeless Branch
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To: Hot Tabasco

I am sick of people who want to legislate the risk out of everything.

That is a completely liberal mindset, and I am amazed to see it here, though I probably shouldn’t be.

Liberals want to legislate the risk out of everything. But you know what? They just legislate everything out and water down life, but the risk remains.

That mindset just makes me sick.


42 posted on 09/19/2011 5:37:24 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: Treeless Branch

It is a crime and obvious negligence to drink and fly. In that case, the pilot and whoever allowed him to fly knowing he was drunk should be criminally responsible and also liable for restitution/medical bills. The pilot purposely increased the danger in a way that was not part of the event.

If a crew notices a visible structural crack, it is also negligent to fly and probably illegal by FAA. If a plane is maintained and inspected to code, there is no negligence.

Both cases you cite are obviously negligent. Having a component fail when everything is maintained right is not negligence. Having a pilot make an error while pushing the limit for entertainment that the audience came to see is not negligence. It’s just a matter of time before it happens and part of the risk of this event.

Can’t accept that miniscule risk? Don’t watch airshows.


43 posted on 09/19/2011 5:45:22 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: dragnet2
I agree, the event organizer should be held liable for not having an explicit disclaimer, disclosure of risk and a waiver. Otherwise, people too dumb to understand the risk might think it's a walk in the park.

Even walking in the park, you accept the minuscule risk of a tree branch crushing you. It happens every couple years in central park.

I couldn't take this to court because I chose to go and knew there was a chance an honest mistake or freak mechanical failure could be tragic. Blaming them would be lying at someone Else's expense. I have more honor than that...

44 posted on 09/19/2011 5:57:03 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga
"I agree, the event organizer should be held liable for not having an explicit disclaimer, disclosure of risk and a waiver."

I one article I read, an attendee said just such a disclosure / waiver was printed right on the ticket -- and it was pointed out when you purchased same...

45 posted on 09/19/2011 6:55:06 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA
I'd go see this, danger be damned:

This isn't a country full of wimps...or at least didn't used to be...

46 posted on 09/19/2011 8:17:36 PM PDT by rlmorel (9/11: Aggression is attracted to weakness like sharks are to blood, and we were weak. We still are.)
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To: rlmorel

Thanks, that was a real treat to watch, and yes, I’d go to see this as well.


47 posted on 09/19/2011 9:06:58 PM PDT by miele man
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To: EveningStar

“Ambulance chasing attorney sets up site for Reno Air Races crash victims..”

####

Enemies of America across the world, laugh with delight at how we’ve let these unencumbered, trial lawyer scum wreak havoc on our economy.

For decades......


48 posted on 09/19/2011 9:09:36 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: randog

And that means we have seen the last of Air Racing for a while

Beguine has hit a house (google it)


49 posted on 09/19/2011 10:10:42 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: hattend

They may go the way of the gladiator, but I think they’ll go the way of the rock concert—insurance for the event will be so high that only the rich and fanatical will be able to afford to attend.


50 posted on 09/20/2011 9:43:16 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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