Skip to comments.Rick Perry’s newbie mistake on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (LOL)
Posted on 09/19/2011 4:12:10 PM PDT by Baladas
Handling the Israeli-Palestinian relationship is one of the most delicate and time-consuming tasks faced by a U.S. president, as demonstrated by this weeks drama concerning the Palestinian push for recognition as a state by the United Nations. In fact, one can argue that missteps early in President Obamas tenure have helped lead the administration to the crisis it now faces today.
Thats why Perrys comments to Time magazine struck us as interesting and potentially revealing. How deep is his understanding of this long-running conflict?
The Facts Perrys statement had three parts: Palestinians must recognize Israels existence; they have to denounce terrorism; they have to negotiate with Israel directly. Anything short of that is a non-starter in my opinion, he declared.
Perry is stuck in a time warp. Hes describing a situation that existed in the 1980s, not really today. (Some people might argue about some of that, but we will explain below.)
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The writer has a point. Perry was likely prepped with them needing to recognize Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state—but the details didn’t take any better than they did in biochem.
But there are a dozen better reasons to bash Perry, this is nothing.
Here’s the Constitution with a search function:
I don’t see Ron Paul in there either so he can shut the hell up!
Kessler's reporting played a role in two foreign policy controversies during the presidency of George W. Bush. He was called to testify in the trial of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, in which he was questioned about a 2003 telephone conversation with Libby in which the name of Valerie Plame, a CIA operative, might have been discussed. (Libby recalled they had discussed Plame; Kessler said they did not.) Meanwhile, a 2004 telephone conversation between Kessler and Steve J. Rosen, a senior official at American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), was at the core of the AIPAC leaking case. The federal government recorded the call and made it the centerpiece of its 2005 indictment of Rosen and an alleged co-conspirator; the charges were dropped in 2009.
Exactly! I love how these people attack what conservatives say. They make everyone in my office laugh hard at their little propaganda efforts to make right wrong and what is up down. I especially love when they say things like ‘It is a consensus, the smart people say....’ or we are all in agreement except for the extremists’.
The people who watch the news now know the crap being pulled and now they play to those ignorant masses on the left only.
We need not ever cater to them as we Conservatives are the majority no matter how much the Marxists and Progressives in the media tell us otherwise.
Napalm first, bulldoze, then repeat until complete......
You make it sound so simple. Sorry to burst your bubble, you can't do that when you depend so heavily on Saudi Arabia for Oil. You cannot do that if you have significant numbers of American troops on Islamic soil. And you can't do that when you know full well that such an action will send the Saudis straight into the hands of the Chinese and the Russians.
You might not realise it, we live in an interconnected World. Tough talk might make us feel happy, but tough talk takes us nowhere.
Nope. Perry is not stuck in a time warp. He is extremely pro-Israel.
He means it. I support it. All else is silliness. Without #1 there is no reason for further discussion.
1. Recognize Israel’s right to exist.
2. Denounce Terror
3. Deal directly with Israel.
You might not realize it, but the Saudis and most other Arab states despise the Palestinians for the vermin that they are. They only use them as a club to beat Israel with. No one is setting about to wipe out the Palestinians, but most Arabs would breathe a huge sigh of relief if it happened.
The author of this piece seems to be the one stuck in the time warp — the PLO no longer controls Gaza: Hamas does.
Hamas manifestly does not recognize Israel’s right to exist.
“Perry is stuck in a time warp. Hes describing a situation that existed in the 1980s, not really today.”
Precisely. Under Obama, all of those requirements have been abolished. The requirements today are: (1) Israel must eliminate all settlements on the West Bank and Golan, (2) Israel must recognize Palestine’s right to exist, (3) Israel must renounce terrorism.
Yeah, I was wondering if Rick Perry thought there are “50” states or “57” states.
Piss on the mainstream media. They suck. They are in the tank, eager to fellate Hussein EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.
The Arab street is different from the House of Saud.
The events in Egypt should convince you that the Arab Street has a soft spot for Palestinians. Mubarak did not, the House of Saud may not.
Sorry to burst yours, but we really don’t need Saudi Arabia either. Not when you look at the real reserves the US has (we just aren’t ALLOWED to extract them).
Make no mistake. The islamic fundies want us dead, dead, dead. The only reason we haven’t been hit harder than we have thus far is because we pay, pay, pay for their oil.
Soon, there will come a time when it’s us or them. Are YOU ready for that?
And yes, it is simple. Live or die. A very binary situation.
All we have to do is remove our troops from their soil.
We do not need their oil.
Jordan doesn’t want them. The last time they lived in Jordan, they tried to assassinate the leader. This led to the killing of 70,000 “Palestinians” and their exile.
It doesn't have to be. Tell the Silica Amish that we will give Israel as many weapons as it takes to make the whole region Kosher, and we hope you don't like it.
You’re right, but it’s you who brought up geopolitics.
Ron Paul is really out there. He does not like Israel. He has been in politics for many years in TX.
The old saying is that a man is entitled to his own opinions but not his on facts. this insuffable moonbats take his own slanted opinions about things, calls them ‘facts’ and puts a ‘fact checker’ hat on to declare Perry ‘wrong’ or ‘liar’ when in fact he’s got a different - and wrong - opinion about the PLO and palestinian leadership.
The keys words Perry used were:
“. They have to denounce terrorism in both word AND DEED.”
Palestinians have given words at different times but their DEEDS make clear that they do NOT recognize Israel’s right to exist and continue (at least Hamas continues) to attack Israeli people and communities.
Apparently this ‘fact checker thinks that because there were some times between 1993 and today when Palestinians and Israelis talked that somehow Perry is ‘out of step’ for pointing out that RIGHT NOW the Palestinians are acting in a state of war with the israelis.
A WashPost comment on it.
Umm . . . Mr. “Fact Checker”. . . LOL! If they don’t live up to their pledge, doesn’t that render the pledge null and void. I know it’s a difficult concept for people like you, but words stated without the intent to follow through on them are simply propaganda—LIES.
Perry’s statement is the most concise and correct I’ve seen on the issue. Until the Palestinians stop their terrorist attacks—that includes missiles—and renounce terrorism as a legitimate tactic (you are aware that Hamas is a designated terrorist organization, aren’t you?) AND MEAN IT, (you did see that caveat there, “in word AND DEED”) there will be no peace and no state for the Arabs who now call themselves “Palestinians.”
As long as Hamas remains dedicated to the destruction of Israel and is supported by other terrorist sponsoring nations like Iran, there will be no Palestinian state and no peace agreement.
I give your article Three Pinocchios . . . not bad for the WaPo being the liberal rag it is.