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You can't reinvent the burger; you can remake it
The Dickenson Press ^ | 9/19/11 | AP

Posted on 09/19/2011 8:49:01 PM PDT by mylife

Edited on 09/19/2011 9:22:34 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

You can't reinvent the burger; you can remake it NEW YORK (AP) — When Wendy's decided to remake its 42-year-old hamburger, the chain agonized over every detail. A pickle chemist was consulted. Customers were quizzed on their lettuce knowledge. And executives went on a cross-country burger-eating tour. [snip]


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I like the Wendys chili and I like the spicy chicken sangwich, but their burgers have always been a bit lame.

You want me to buy a burger? Start with a fat patty and use a kaiser roll. Somthing that you can mound lots of nice toppings on without it falling apart.

1 posted on 09/19/2011 8:49:02 PM PDT by mylife
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I like the fish sangwich too


2 posted on 09/19/2011 8:51:17 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

“We wanted it to be better. Isn’t that what long-term brands do? They reinvent themselves.”

Ask Coca-Cola.


3 posted on 09/19/2011 8:51:44 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: mylife

Perhaps getting the order right the first time would be in order as well.


4 posted on 09/19/2011 8:52:22 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Yes they do.
I hope they make a better burger rather than reinventing themselves by selling oatmeal like McDonald.


5 posted on 09/19/2011 8:54:55 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: rockinqsranch

My order is pretty simple.
Two chili’s with the spice packs and an order of fries to dunk in it.


6 posted on 09/19/2011 8:56:34 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

I used to love Wendy’s burgers - a double with mustard, pickle and onion only. They were served hot and the meat was juicy. I liked the fries too. For dietary reasons I quit eating fast food for several years but not long ago I ordered a Wendy’s burger out of nostalgia. It was awful! The servers were hostile and surly, the meat was dry and overcooked, they put just a tiny dab of mustard on, 1 pickle slice and no onions I could find. When I asked for more they angrily slapped on a little more mustard and another pickle slice. I threw the inedible burger in the trash and am never going back. The new owners have a people problem, not a food problem.


7 posted on 09/19/2011 8:58:56 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: mylife

Color me stupid, but I still don’t understand what’s happening here.

Is this truly a wholesale change, or just another item? The wording is confusing to me.


8 posted on 09/19/2011 9:00:04 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
“We wanted it to be better.

Start by making it not revolting. I've only had one Wendy's burger in my entire life, and it made me sick. The bun was completely soggy, the meat was not done in the middle, and the lettuce was so limp, it drooped over the edge of the bun like one of Dali's clocks.

I did like their hot dogs, though, when I still ate stuff like that.

9 posted on 09/19/2011 9:00:09 PM PDT by giotto
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To: mylife
Isn't that called 'due diligence'?

/johnny

10 posted on 09/19/2011 9:00:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Bernard Marx

If you like a big FF burger with mustard and onions you want Whataburger!


11 posted on 09/19/2011 9:01:23 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: giotto

I’ve loved Wendy’s. But then, there is little fast food I don’t like.

If their pickles are as I recently saw at my parents’ neighborhood 1 the other week (”crinkled”), then forget it. I hate those pickles - they’re those gross “bread&butter” or whatever pickles, instead of a proper genuine dill.

In the past they’ve had “healthy” lettuce on it, too, which I don’t like. Sorry, I’m all for iceberg. I really don’t care how “healthy” it is, Moosechelle.


12 posted on 09/19/2011 9:04:02 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Looks to me like they are attempting to revamp the burgers over all.

I think that is great, because I am no fan of limp wimpy burgers


13 posted on 09/19/2011 9:04:29 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

None compare to the burgers I now make at home. No Whataburger stores in my area anyhow. But there’s a locally-owned place that makes an amazing cheeseburger when I’m in the mood.


14 posted on 09/19/2011 9:09:36 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: mylife

IMO they just made them smaller. For that price ? Too much.

You want an awesome burger ? Go to Bobby Flay’s BBP

Bobby’s Burger Palace. Unbelieveable ! !


15 posted on 09/19/2011 9:10:12 PM PDT by onona (The creator put us on this earth so we could view Sharon Shannon's smile.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I like leaf lettuce, it has more flavor, but put some Tomato and red onions under that so the damn stuff doesn’t wilt when it hits the hot beef.
And Honestly, how hard is it to make sure that the tomatoes are ripe?


16 posted on 09/19/2011 9:11:23 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: onona

I can make a better burger than Bobby Flay ;)

He aint the only guy in the world that knows about chipotle sauce and Ortega peppers! LoL


17 posted on 09/19/2011 9:13:50 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Bernard Marx

Chain-wise, nothing comes close to 5 Guys.


18 posted on 09/19/2011 9:15:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Bernard Marx

I’m with you.

I rarely purchase burgers from the fast food guys.


19 posted on 09/19/2011 9:15:14 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

I like the idea of having a toasted bun. I don’t know why the franchisees would make such a big deal out of it. It keeps the bun from being to soggy and at least gives the impression that someone put a little more effort into making your burger.


20 posted on 09/19/2011 9:15:57 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: mylife

Wendy’s has the worst burgers on the planet. In N Out..Whataburger are much much better. In the Midwest..Culvers or Steak n Shake.


21 posted on 09/19/2011 9:15:57 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: mylife
a thicker beef patty

Increasing it to more than 20lb? I wonder how much they pay per ream?

22 posted on 09/19/2011 9:16:53 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I never win at Scrable.)
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To: mylife

But they give “it” a “name”, and talk about no longer having mustard - who doesn’t allow mustard on a burger? A “Name” like that usually implies 1 particular item. Do we now have to say, “I want a double Hot&Juicy..”? What’s the point of naming it if it’s not just another item on the menu?

I like flat burgers. They cook thoroughly and minimize all the disgusting gristly-ball cartilage that inherently is part of burgers and why, except for FF, I’m not a big fan of them.


23 posted on 09/19/2011 9:17:50 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: buccaneer81

http://www.smashburger.com/


24 posted on 09/19/2011 9:18:40 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Oldexpat
In N Out.

Their onions are the best.

25 posted on 09/19/2011 9:18:40 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I never win at Scrable.)
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To: mylife

I worked at Wendy’s back in my post high school years and I LOVED the food. I knew it was made well and that the chili was just yesterdays over cooked meat mashed up and given spices.

I would eat 2 jr bacons every day if I knew it wouldn’t make me die at 40.... Mmmmmmm Bacon.


26 posted on 09/19/2011 9:19:55 PM PDT by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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To: mylife

What if you don’t like tomatoes and onions (red is horrid for breath - I won’t kiss my husband when he’s had sandwiches with reds for a day)? What do you do to protect the lettuce?

The only flavor “healthy” lettuce has is bitterness. :-)


27 posted on 09/19/2011 9:20:14 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: mylife

Thanks for that. I have to go to Cincinnati on Friday, so I’ll try the one in Blue Ash.


28 posted on 09/19/2011 9:20:49 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: smith288

I worked at the 1 I mentioned above, too. My 1st job at 17 way back, still in school. Only lasted 2 months - hated how they always changed schedules and didn’t seem to consider much that you’re in school; moved to a brand-new theater instead. Also learned it’s not too fun working with food! But generally I had no real problems with what they did there.


29 posted on 09/19/2011 9:24:25 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: smokingfrog

We use to have a place in town that did that and buttered it.
They had a toaster/butter conveyer belt thing that was awesome!
Endless Hand cut fries, Pinto beans with jalapeno, and cornbread.
They had amazing foot tall coconut cream pies.

The place burnt to the ground :(

I think Culver’s Butter burger still toasts the bun, but then they get it sopping with butter


30 posted on 09/19/2011 9:24:29 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: onona
In-N-out!!!! Best burgers ever... at a price you can afford in this economy.
31 posted on 09/19/2011 9:25:13 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: mylife

I swear I am addicted to whataburger.


32 posted on 09/19/2011 9:25:49 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! “10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government")
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To: Oldexpat

I haven’t tried Steak and shake.
I agree on the others.


33 posted on 09/19/2011 9:26:10 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

Their spicy chicken sandwich and chili are awesome.


34 posted on 09/19/2011 9:26:59 PM PDT by andyk (Income != Wealth)
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To: mylife

Steak and Shake is good, but don’t go through the drive-thru unless you have 20 minutes to spare...and that’s if you’re the only car.


35 posted on 09/19/2011 9:28:11 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

If its just one more item on the menu it will flop.
They need to add that level of detail to the entire menu to set themselves apart.


36 posted on 09/19/2011 9:28:31 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: BenKenobi

I love threads about fast food... direct assault on FLOTUS’ food police!


37 posted on 09/19/2011 9:28:50 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: smith288

We all know what the Chili is, but I love it.
NOBODY else does that.


38 posted on 09/19/2011 9:30:25 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

Burgers changed after the E. Coli outbreak in So Cal. It started at several Jack-n-the-box’s and resulted in a few deaths. Think that was around 1979-80. Ever since then the major fast food places overcook them.


39 posted on 09/19/2011 9:31:03 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Jeff Chandler

I love onions!


40 posted on 09/19/2011 9:31:38 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Flat?

I want a “hand spanked” burger!


41 posted on 09/19/2011 9:32:39 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife
Two words: Halo Burger

The only thing Michael Moore & I will ever agree on.

CC

42 posted on 09/19/2011 9:32:45 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Wisdom comes from experience. Experience comes from a lack of wisdom.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I won’t kiss my husband when he’s had sandwiches with reds for a day

Reason #483,325 why I remain single. I'll eat what I please, whenever I please. Devil take the hindmost.

/johnny

43 posted on 09/19/2011 9:33:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: antceecee

Dang, Nothing near NY


44 posted on 09/19/2011 9:33:42 PM PDT by onona (The creator put us on this earth so we could view Sharon Shannon's smile.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I dunno.
All I know is I dont give a hoot if red onions pollute! LoL

We lost the last burger joint in town that still used them recently.
They had been around since the 40’s and used to have car shows..

Sigh...


45 posted on 09/19/2011 9:36:02 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: buccaneer81

Whataburger is the same way


46 posted on 09/19/2011 9:37:32 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: BenKenobi

My Son who was raised out of state loves Whataburger LoL

I remember the day he ate a whole one for the first time.
He was so proud. LoL


47 posted on 09/19/2011 9:39:08 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: andyk

I think their spicy chicken is as good or better than Chik~fil~a


48 posted on 09/19/2011 9:41:07 PM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife
And Honestly, how hard is it to make sure that the tomatoes are ripe?

Not hard, just expensive. We are talking about fast food here not a real 5 star restaurant.

49 posted on 09/19/2011 9:41:43 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: giotto; mylife; the OlLine Rebel
Start by making it not revolting.

Exactly. I have always hated Wendy's burgers, for the reasons you cited. Although the bad service goes along with it. How do you mess up a hamburger, for heaven's sake?

50 posted on 09/19/2011 9:43:10 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (weltschmerz: the sadness one feels when contemplating how far the real world is from an ideal world.)
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