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Obama endorses ending 1 day of mail delivery (President Downgrade Strikes Again)
Forbes ^ | 9/20/11 | R. Schmid

Posted on 09/20/2011 6:07:30 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

President Barack Obama says the U.S. Postal Service should be allowed to reduce mail delivery to five days a week to help cut its massive losses.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; postal; union; usps
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LOL. Suddenly Hussein is an expert in business. Hussein's devotion to union thuggery will probably mean the bad service at the post office will get worse.
1 posted on 09/20/2011 6:07:38 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Good idea. Keep paying all those union employees the same amount, or more, for LESS WORK. The union view in a nutshell ...


2 posted on 09/20/2011 6:08:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Oh, what's the point?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I wonder how many jobs will be cut by this move? One less day of junk mail.


3 posted on 09/20/2011 6:09:29 AM PDT by DOGEY
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Gov. cannot manage a postal service, social security or medicare, but they want to manage PUBLIC HEALTHCARE?????

Never thought I'd live to see the day that this country would fall to this, thanks Bambi!

4 posted on 09/20/2011 6:14:38 AM PDT by blondee123 (Obama-The Wanna-be Dictator!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Another flush of the constitution. The postal service, as financially inefficient as it is, is one of the very few constitutional responsibilities of the federal government.


5 posted on 09/20/2011 6:15:06 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Hey Hussein, how about shutting down federal government one day a week — those unemployment numbers will look 20% better for you overnight!


6 posted on 09/20/2011 6:15:23 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I think this should be approved as long as it can be trumpeted as Obama’s cutback.

This affects his base, since they’ll have to wait an extra day for the check to come. Not to mention ticking off seniors.

The GOP president can make real cuts and bring back Saturday delivery.


7 posted on 09/20/2011 6:15:28 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

They should definitely get rid of Saturday delivery.


8 posted on 09/20/2011 6:15:42 AM PDT by Huck (If you are in a union, then bow to your COMMIE masters.)
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To: DOGEY

On the rural side, it would just be the Associate carriers. They work on the 6th day that the regular carriers can’t work (prevents an OT situation) and vacations/sick days. The associates would probably *quit* for lack of hours and having to be on call.


9 posted on 09/20/2011 6:17:51 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: Huck

“They should definitely get rid of Saturday delivery.”

Why? See post #5.


10 posted on 09/20/2011 6:17:54 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: DOGEY

On the rural side, it would just be the Associate carriers. They work on the 6th day that the regular carriers can’t work (prevents an OT situation) and vacations/sick days. The associates would probably *quit* for lack of hours and having to be on call.


11 posted on 09/20/2011 6:17:59 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: brownsfan
If this happened under Bush, all networks would lead with it...with sob stories about how diabetics and old people cannot get their meds and food money because of the eeeevil Republican.
12 posted on 09/20/2011 6:19:44 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

“Hmmmm......Joe......if we lay off postal employees, they won’t have money to give to the Democrat party and they won’t vote for us. How do we get out of this one?”
“It’s simple.....provide less service to their customers. What the hell do we care about Saturday delivery as long as the donations and votes keep rolling in.””


13 posted on 09/20/2011 6:19:50 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: DOGEY

There are thousands of contract workers who only deliver mail on Sat. I know someone who does this. Most have other jobs and do this for some extra money. Those jobs would no longer be necessary.

That’s not enough of a cutback, though. The pension and healthcare costs are where the real money is.


14 posted on 09/20/2011 6:20:20 AM PDT by randita (Obama - chains you can bereave in.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Correct.

Remember all the homeless stories under Reagan (and that's when the economy was booming). Where's all the homeless stories now?

15 posted on 09/20/2011 6:22:53 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: treetopsandroofs

Yes ,the Post Offices are a Constitutional obligation. But that does not mean that mail has to be delivered to the recipient. What says that the mail can’t be held at the Post Office for pick up of delivered to the recipient twice a week?


16 posted on 09/20/2011 6:24:37 AM PDT by guardian_of_liberty (We must bind the Government with the Chains of the Constitution...)
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To: DOGEY

No jobs will be lost. They will still have the same amount of mail to deliver. Just one less day to deliver it.


17 posted on 09/20/2011 6:26:19 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Muslims do not immigrate; they colonize.)
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To: Tax-chick

As long as the corresponding number of postal service employees are put out of work, I’d have no problem with three day a week postal service. I don’t think I even have a monthly bill that isn’t sent/paid electronically. Most of the crap that shows up in my apartment mailbox is junk mail, catalogs, and stuff for the former tenant (a year and a half after he moved out).


18 posted on 09/20/2011 6:26:47 AM PDT by Sky Slug
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To: Recovering_Democrat

So, let’s think this through.

8 hours less work per week; so are we dropping the entire Post Office staff to part-time workers, thus saving money on benefits (part time workers are inelgible for many perks, including vaction, sick leave, insurance, pension, 401K); or are we terminating 1/7th of the Post Office Staff?


19 posted on 09/20/2011 6:27:38 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: DOGEY

None, at least at the USPS.
They’re government union, so they will continue to get paid, dues deducted and sent to democRats, per usual.


20 posted on 09/20/2011 6:27:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Tax-chick

Exactly. When five-day delivery fails we’ll get four-day delivery right on down to no delivery. Makes perfect sense. Pay union miscreants big bucks and benefits to do nothing. Isn’t that the Marxist goal?


21 posted on 09/20/2011 6:28:26 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: Sky Slug

nobama, as usual has this backwards. 5/6ths of the employees should be fired and delivery should be limited to one day per week. Really...


22 posted on 09/20/2011 6:29:39 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Hey barry,

How about shutting down GOVERNMENT at least one day extra per week WITHOUT pay?

Think of all the money that would be saved! All that ‘wealth’ to spread around!


23 posted on 09/20/2011 6:31:56 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: guardian_of_liberty

I guess they will lay off about 20% of the workers. Yeah, and I bet it will snow in Panama next month too. So, let’s see, no mail delivery and a bunch of people lingering around the post office doing what?? Meanwhile, the vehicle fleet will remain as is. There should be some savings in less fuel used I guess. But in the long run, this is not going to solve the PO’s problems. The legacy costs are too large from what I gather. The flat fee for delivery US wide of course is a problem but that is not addressed.

Perhaps (.)bama will use this plan to save money with the military too that is be on duty 5 days a week or some such.


24 posted on 09/20/2011 6:31:56 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: randita

They could get rid of the pension portion of the retirement plan. The TSP is like a 401k, and I think that is the bulk of the retirement plan anyway, although I could be misinformed about that part. I do know that the 20 years/3 highest pay years pension stuff is what makes people who HATE working for USPS stay. To collect the max they can get. It’s stupid.

If they get rid of the pension, I think that alone would improve personnel quality and save gobs of money.


25 posted on 09/20/2011 6:33:16 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: MrB

You are uninformed.


26 posted on 09/20/2011 6:35:42 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: DOGEY

“..One less day of junk mail.”

I used to work for the Postal Service. They felt that ‘bulk mail’ (we were NOT to use the words “junk mail”) was the future of the business! This was back in the 90’s.

I’d hired in thinking I’d retire from the job, but when they started pushing this idea, -investing in our delivering stuff that people REALLY don’t want in the first place, I knew that the place probably wouldn’t survive the 30 years I’d need til retirement.


27 posted on 09/20/2011 6:38:24 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I would be happy with ONE day a week mail service


28 posted on 09/20/2011 6:40:28 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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To: Sky Slug
As long as the corresponding number of postal service employees are put out of work ...

You're joking, right?

29 posted on 09/20/2011 6:43:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Oh, what's the point?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

This is a decision to be made by the Postmaster General, not the President. But the Postmaster General should be allowed to make this decision, and right now, he can’t. Saturday delivery probably doesn’t make sense anymore.


30 posted on 09/20/2011 6:44:15 AM PDT by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

From Mark Steyn’s latest book-We’ve learned never again to elect a president who has run nothing but his mouth.


31 posted on 09/20/2011 6:46:35 AM PDT by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

F U Obama.


32 posted on 09/20/2011 6:47:18 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: DOGEY
I wonder how many jobs will be cut by this move? One less day of junk mail.

Not many. The Post Office has signed union labor contracts that do not permit them to lay off people.

They would have to get congressional authority to break their union contracts and lay off excess manpower.

Thanks to Promises to Unions, Post Office Unable to Adapt to Changing Business Environment

As any computer user knows, the Internet revolution has led to people and businesses sending far less conventional mail.

At the same time, decades of contractual promises made to unionized workers, including no-layoff clauses, are increasing the post office’s costs. Labor represents 80 percent of the agency’s expenses, compared with 53 percent at United Parcel Service and 32 percent at FedEx, its two biggest private competitors. Postal workers also receive more generous health benefits than most other federal employees


33 posted on 09/20/2011 6:47:34 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Just kill it!


34 posted on 09/20/2011 6:50:30 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Tax-chick

People have said I live in a fantasy world before.


35 posted on 09/20/2011 6:50:38 AM PDT by Sky Slug
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To: wolfman23601
No, it's not. Congress was granted the authority (i.e. optional) to establish postal roads and offices. But mail delivery is not a responsibility.
36 posted on 09/20/2011 6:59:57 AM PDT by kidd (S&P gives Obama an 'AA+'...Obama's only published grade)
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To: guardian_of_liberty

“What says that the mail can’t be held at the Post Office for pick up of delivered to the recipient twice a week?”

Hmm, interesting question.... I’m guessing we’d actually need more post offices in rural areas, but how about once a week, then, or perhaps NO delivery?

Would all of Hussein’s “deserving” people approve?


37 posted on 09/20/2011 7:01:51 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Recovering_Democrat; All

We ALL know that the USPS can be saved, modernized to fit the times, and still provide the quality service it is charged with, if there is the political will to do so.

THERE ISN’T, and the Unions will scream bloody murder, so we will just watch it spiral in to death...


38 posted on 09/20/2011 7:14:13 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Democrats have been OUTFORCING America's jobs for 40 years)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The larger government gets the less it can actually do properly yet the liberal ansewr to failure after failure is that we just haven’t made government big enough!

Amazing. Just amazing.


39 posted on 09/20/2011 7:14:37 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government rushes to help the irresponsible and does little for the responsible)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Of course Obama is downgrading postal service. It’s one of the few constitutionally legitimate functions of the federal government.

Hey, libs, if Obama can’t manage to deliver the mail, how do you think he’ll do with heart transplants and brain surgery?


40 posted on 09/20/2011 7:20:31 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Of course Obama is downgrading postal service. It’s one of the few constitutionally legitimate functions of the federal government.

Hey, libs, if Obama can’t manage to deliver the mail, how do you think he’ll do with heart transplants and brain surgery?


41 posted on 09/20/2011 7:20:50 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: treetopsandroofs

I don’t see anything in the Constitution about Saturday delivery.


42 posted on 09/20/2011 7:21:21 AM PDT by Huck (If you are in a union, then bow to your COMMIE masters.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

he is an expert on everything don’t you know.

This isn’t his idea but I’d be very happy not to receive mail on Saturday. I get nothing but junk anyway.

Important stuff comes online or by express carrier.


43 posted on 09/20/2011 7:21:48 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: Skepolitic

The postal monopoly on first class mail, however, is not a “constitutionally legimate” function of the federal government. The creation of a monopoly for this insitutution is not mentioned, or even hinted at, a single time.


44 posted on 09/20/2011 7:26:05 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Imagine how much they would save if they deliver mail just once a month.


45 posted on 09/20/2011 7:40:46 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Obama’s Options for saving the USPS:
1. Go to 5 day a week delivery
2. Go to 4 day a week delivery
3. Go to 3 day a week delivery
4. Go to 2 day a week delivery
5. Go to 1 day a week delivery
6. Stop mail delivery

7. Allow renegotiation of union contracts

46 posted on 09/20/2011 7:41:33 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: blondee123
Gov. cannot manage a postal service, social security or medicare, but they want to manage PUBLIC HEALTHCARE?????

GREAT bumper sticker I remember from the 70's. "If you like the Postal Service you'll love National Health Care".
Boy could we use a reprinting of those now.
47 posted on 09/20/2011 7:43:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: treetopsandroofs

“or perhaps NO delivery?”

Wouldn’t there have to be huge Post Offices built to house all the P.O Boxes?


48 posted on 09/20/2011 7:49:58 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: DOGEY
I wonder how many jobs will be cut by this move? One less day of junk mail.

Should be really easy to determine: 6 days down to 5 is a loss of 1/6th of the service. Should be 16% of employees that are cut.

At least, if it was about operating at a profit and not as a jobs bank...

49 posted on 09/20/2011 7:55:30 AM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: Mr. K
I would be happy with ONE day a week mail service

I would, too, as long as other branches of the Government adopted to this less-frequent delivery. I just got called up for Federal jury duty - and the form I received had to be returned within 5 days. Sent by USPS Mail. If not returned in 5 days I could be found in contempt of court. If the mail was delivered 1 day a week, I might not get the notice for 5 days in the first place...

I can see the IRS having a field day with this as well - you have 5 days to respond to this letter regarding some obscure claim against you. Oops didn't get the letter for 6 days? Tough - default judgment - you're screwed!

50 posted on 09/20/2011 8:26:07 AM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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