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The Man Who Married the Goat (And Reflections on the Meaning of Marriage)
Townhall.com ^ | September 19, 2011 | Michael Brown

Posted on 09/20/2011 10:59:56 AM PDT by Kaslin

A few days ago, I received an email from a friend entitled “Interesting Marriages,” containing four links.

The first link told the 2007 story of a Sudanese man who was caught copulating with a goat. Since the Sudanese tribal custom requires that a man must marry a woman whom he sexually violated (in order to preserve her family’s honor), the village leaders decided to publicly embarrass the man who had violated the goat, forcing him to pay a dowry to the goat’s owner before “marrying” the goat. The story, which was first reported in a light-hearted way on the website of a British newspaper, drew worldwide attention, as did the subsequent report that the man was left a widower when the goat died after choking on some plastic it had swallowed.

The second link, from the Jakarta Globe in 2010, gave the unfortunate account of a young Balinese man who was caught copulating with a cow (but only, he explained, after the cow, which he believed to be a young, beautiful woman, had flirted with him). He was then forced to participate in a public marriage ceremony with the cow, during which he passed out. After the ceremony, the cow was drowned in the ocean, as were the young man’s clothes, in a purification ritual.

The third link, dating to 2005, was entitled, “Charmed woman marries cobra in India,” the story reporting that, “A woman who fell in love with a snake has reportedly married the reptile at a traditional Hindu wedding celebrated by 2,000 guests in India's Orissa state.” The woman, who was 30 years old, explained, “Though snakes cannot speak nor understand, we communicate in a peculiar way.”

The fourth link, from 2008, was perhaps the most bizarre of all, telling the story of a German woman who had been married to the Berlin Wall for 29 years. The woman, then 54, and whose “surname means Berlin Wall in German, wed the concrete structure in 1979 after being diagnosed with a condition called Objectum-Sexuality.”

Aside from the tragicomic nature of these stories, what they all have in common is that none of these unions were, in any sense of the word, “marriages,” despite the rituals and ceremonies performed. Marriage, we all know, is between human beings, not between a human being and an animal or reptile (or wall!).

But is marriage simply the union of two human beings or is it specifically the union of a man and a woman? If the latter, then the union of two men or two women is no more a “marriage” then is the union of a man and an animal, reptile, wall, or whatever, regardless of how much the two human parties love each other. In fact, there are conservatives who have asked, “If a woman can marry a woman, why can’t she marry her dog (or, horse, or plant, etc.)?” There is even a gay activist, watchdog website called BoxTurtleBulletin, deriving its name from remarks prepared for Senator John Corwyn in 2004 (although never spoken by him): “It does not affect your daily life very much if your neighbor marries a box turtle. But that does not mean it is right.”

While Senator Corwyn did well by not delivering these remarks, the very real question of the definition of marriage remains, especially in places like my current home state of North Carolina, where, for the first time, the people will be allowed to vote on a constitutional amendment defining marriage as the union of a man and woman. Simply stated, if marriage is the union of two people, then same-sex couples have as much right to marry as do opposite-sex couples. But if marriage is the union of a man and a woman, then same-sex couples no more have the right to “marry” than do the aforementioned human and goat (although there is, quite obviously, no comparison between the two situations).

These, then, are some of the questions that must be answered in the current debate. First, what is marriage? Conservatives would point out that, with virtually no exception until recently, marriage has always been the union of a man and woman, not simply the union of two people.

Second, why should marriage consist of only two parties? Supporters of natural, organic marriage argue that marriage consists of only two people because of the uniqueness of the male-female union. Otherwise, what’s so important about the number two? Why not more?

Third, since most Americans agree that government should have limited involvement in the lives of its citizens, why is the state involved in the issue of marriage? Opponents of same-sex marriage point out that the state conveys benefits on marriage because marriage conveys benefits on the state, namely, the possibility of procreation along with the ability to join a child to its mother and father.

For the next seven months in North Carolina, leading up to the May 2012 vote, the debate will be raging.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: berlinermauer; berlinwall; bestiality; cobra; cow; frauberlinermauer; goat; homonaziagenda; homonazism; homopsychoagenda; homosexualagenda; homosexualism; incest; marriage; marriagechaos; mrsberlinermauer; mrsberlinwall; nc; northcarolina; objectumsexuality; pederasty; pedophiles; pedophilia; polyamory; polygamy; polygyny; sexualanarchy; sexualchaos; snake; sodomy

1 posted on 09/20/2011 10:59:59 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Don’t a-a-a-a-a-a-ask; don’t tell.


2 posted on 09/20/2011 11:08:40 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: Kaslin

“After the ceremony, the cow was drowned in the ocean”

SURE. Blame the cow!!!!

Seriously, when we redfine marriage as something other than between one man and one woman, we open the door to these bizaar events AND - EVEN WORSE (how many people are interested in cows?) ISLAMIC POLYGAMY!!!!! RIGHT HERE!!!


3 posted on 09/20/2011 11:11:24 AM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY but Obama)
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To: Kaslin

We’re all going to find out now.


4 posted on 09/20/2011 11:13:29 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Kaslin

The polygamist, incest, and pedophile crowds are already using the gays’ arguments for marriage. That’s the door it opens to.


5 posted on 09/20/2011 11:16:04 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Kaslin

I read about a couple of guys who were charged with attempted murder. It was reported that they had hatched a plan to get married so as not to be forced to testify against each other and claim the fifth.

I have no idea if that would work, but it sure sounds feasible to me now.


6 posted on 09/20/2011 11:21:28 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Kaslin

‘The fourth link, from 2008, was perhaps the most bizarre of all, telling the story of a German woman who had been married to the Berlin Wall for 29 years. The woman, then 54, and whose “surname means Berlin Wall in German, wed the concrete structure in 1979 after being diagnosed with a condition called Objectum-Sexuality.”’

I posted on that a while back.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2232313/posts

I’m surprised the left hasn’t done more on behalf of the Berlin Wall’s “widow’s” “rights”.


7 posted on 09/20/2011 11:22:59 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Free Vulcan
said this years ago to a Libertarian . If we change what marriage is then all sorts of groups can use the same excuse to have their kind of marriage. Hell we've got men who dress as women who then think they're lesbian. We have men wanting more than one wife We have seen people marry animals, have sex with them. We have seen homosexuals want the age limit to go down so they can have sex with children. MA has already brought their sex age law down to I think like 13 with parents permission.. Anyone who defends homosexual marriage is just as bonkers as the homosexuals and all the other groups. MARRIAGE = 1 MAN + 1 WOMAN A family is mother, father and kids. Now two of the same sex shopping to get kids and then play happy families. It is high time the right spoke up about this instead of being cowards.
8 posted on 09/20/2011 11:23:23 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: Kaslin

No kids yet, I presume.


9 posted on 09/20/2011 11:27:34 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ReformationFan

I’ve got a nice chunk of her husband in my closet at home, I bet it was traumatic for her when they attacked her love with sledge hammers that day... :)


10 posted on 09/20/2011 11:29:54 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Kaslin

Incidentally, what’s to prevent two heterosexual males from getting married just for the tax advantages? Or to prevent one having to testify against the other in a court proceeding?


11 posted on 09/20/2011 11:31:08 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Abathar
I’ve got a nice chunk of her husband in my closet at home, I bet it was traumatic for her when they attacked her love with sledge hammers that day... :)

It would be really creepy to read your comment, without reading the article first.

Great tagline.

12 posted on 09/20/2011 11:43:56 AM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: newheart

LOL


13 posted on 09/20/2011 11:45:18 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Kaslin

14 posted on 09/20/2011 12:09:55 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Kaslin
[Art.] Aside from the tragicomic nature of these stories, what they all have in common is that none of these unions were, in any sense of the word, “marriages,” despite the rituals and ceremonies performed.

The homosexual attack on marriage is really an attack on heteronormality.

In the end, homosexuals can no more deny their paraphilic disorderedness than they can deny that night is dark. Hence their attack on normality.

Eventually the Homosexual Movement NGO's must turn the corner from arguing for "rights" for this or that paraphilic group (gays, pederasts, bestialists, whatever) to persecuting normal heterosexual people as such.

15 posted on 09/20/2011 12:32:26 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Indeed. And once polygamy becomes legalized, people will be able to “marry” people of both sexes. Members of a whole criminal gang can be “married” to everyone in it to avoid testifying against each other.


16 posted on 09/20/2011 12:34:44 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Kaslin; little jeremiah; wardaddy; Antoninus
Remember the polemical position conservatives were in 12 years ago or so, having to argue the inevitability of crap like this, without the solid-gold evidence of documented episodes like these? Remember the horse-laughs, the screams of outrage at "bigotry" and "projection" and "scare-bear phantasms"?

We need to vacuum the archives for select quotes from Lambda and HRC leaders assuring us that stuff like this was chimerical, a bunch of scarecrows dreamed up by fevered bigot-brains.

To quote Grace Slick, "Eat starch, Mom!"

17 posted on 09/20/2011 12:40:42 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: ReformationFan
Members of a whole criminal gang can be “married” to everyone in it to avoid testifying against each other.

New worlds of meaning for the term of art, "killer app".

18 posted on 09/20/2011 12:42:45 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: DannyTN

“Domestic goat partners need health benefits too”

Not only animals but plants also.

Recall about a couple of years ago in Berkeley CA where several activists were living in some old oak trees for about 2 years, trying - in vain - to stop UCB to cut the tree? Well, if the activists were allowed to marry to the trees (think Druidism), the trees would be spared the fate of the lumberyard.


19 posted on 09/20/2011 12:54:44 PM PDT by barracuda1412
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To: lentulusgracchus

Let me gird myself mentally and eat lunch and I’ll be back with my ping list in tow.


20 posted on 09/20/2011 3:15:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Kaslin

This story has legs... four legs (or six, counting the groom).


21 posted on 09/20/2011 3:44:24 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: ReformationFan

To be honest, I am not sure if I believe that story, but things sure could have changed. It used to be in Germany that you could not give a baby a name that meant to ridicule the baby or give a boy a name that is female. For example Marion is strictly a name for girls in German, while here it can be used for either boys or girls. John Wayne’s real first name was Marion


22 posted on 09/20/2011 4:04:46 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Didn’t get to it today - will tomorrow!


23 posted on 09/20/2011 9:54:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Kaslin
What is marriage?

Marriage is a Sacrament a Holy Union of GOD, woman and man. Without God there is no marriage.

Marriage is not just a contract or a partnership or companionship and definitely not just about sex. It is prayerfulness, duty and companionship and sex and partnership and love and hope etc.

To reduce it to just a union leads to the wrong conclusion that "gay marriage" is ok.

24 posted on 09/21/2011 12:38:51 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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