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Marines Hit the Ground Running in Seeking Recruits at Gay Center
New York Times ^ | September 20, 2011 | ELISABETH BUMILLER

Posted on 09/21/2011 1:14:06 AM PDT by Lancey Howard

TULSA, Okla. — Master Sgt. Anthony Henry, a top Marine recruiting trainer for the southwestern United States, pulled up to Tulsa’s biggest gay community center on Tuesday morning and left his Chevy where he could make a fast getaway. “I have an exit strategy,” he said. “I know where my choke points are, I’ve strategically parked my car right on the curbside, I have an out.”

But as it happened, one of the strangest days in the history of the United States Marine Corps unfolded without the protests and insults that Sergeant Henry had feared. Sergeant Henry, who had been invited to set up a recruiting booth on the first day of the end of “don’t ask, don’t tell” at the Dennis R. Neill Equality Center in downtown Tulsa, instead spent it in quiet conversation with a trickle of gay women who came in to ask about joining the Marines.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: deathofthemilitary; homonaziagenda; homonazism; homosexualagenda; homosexualism; marines; newyorkslimes; tulsa; usmc
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1 posted on 09/21/2011 1:14:12 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; Grimmy; xzins; smoothsailing; lilycicero; bigheadfred; ...

America is dead and gone.


2 posted on 09/21/2011 1:15:51 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I was thinking, “this is some quite sick writing”; then I looked at the source and I was like “Ahhh... of course”.


3 posted on 09/21/2011 1:19:29 AM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Lancey Howard

At least you don’t have to worry about the gay women in your rear.


4 posted on 09/21/2011 1:21:15 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Gollee, Sgt. Carter! You want to do what?
5 posted on 09/21/2011 1:24:23 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Lancey Howard

“...Tulsa’s biggest gay community center...”

Was this guy there?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW0ubEORKy8&feature=related


6 posted on 09/21/2011 1:25:18 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Those who trade land for peace will end up with neither one.)
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To: Lancey Howard
With all the young people in the armed forces that now have been told they will be severely punished if they do, say, or even think anything that can be even remotely construed as anti-’Gay”—the military is now to horny homosexuals like a well stocked meat market is to hungry wolves.
Now,you don't have to go to prison to get raped by homosexuals.
7 posted on 09/21/2011 1:29:18 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yer it!")
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To: Lancey Howard

8 posted on 09/21/2011 1:34:26 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Lancey Howard

This is about weaken our military.


9 posted on 09/21/2011 1:41:56 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Lancey Howard

They’re looking for a few gay men?


10 posted on 09/21/2011 1:48:45 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Lancey Howard
They have to do a remake of "Full metal jacket" now.

" Private Pyle! Why is there a dildo in your footlocker?"

11 posted on 09/21/2011 1:52:38 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Betchca all those nancy boy faggots in the NYT copy room are just peeing all over themselves thinking about gay marines...


12 posted on 09/21/2011 1:57:06 AM PDT by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: Lancey Howard

It’s an all-volunteer military. Now we’ll see who volunteers. I predict the military will fairly quickly become predominantly homosexual/lesbian.

Sad, Larry, just sad.


13 posted on 09/21/2011 2:16:49 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger......)
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To: Lancey Howard
New Military uniform addition:


14 posted on 09/21/2011 2:30:57 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Fear not, the enlisted men will take care iof this “problem” in the way EM have done so in all the brances sice the beginning.

If gays really believe they will be “accepted” by straight troops they are wrong. No one can force another to accept immoral behavior.


15 posted on 09/21/2011 2:41:24 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman ..... Hell, I may even allow you to serve as a rifleman in my beloved Corps.


16 posted on 09/21/2011 2:42:17 AM PDT by Einherjar
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To: Lancey Howard

Be prepared for the media to FLOOD the society with stories about how AWESOME gays are in the military.


17 posted on 09/21/2011 2:46:10 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Lancey Howard

OMG! This is worse than 9/11......it truly is the END of our country.


18 posted on 09/21/2011 3:00:34 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I’m not so sure about that. What one President can do, another President can undo. PROVIDING we keep the Supreme Court.

If I was gay (which thank God I am not) and in the service, I would be very careful about letting anyone know it. November 2012 is not that far away, and if it goes as bad for the Demonrats as I think it will, things could return to pre DADT pretty damn quick.

At that time, any out servicemen or service women could find themselves O-U-T OUT on their well used butts.


19 posted on 09/21/2011 3:00:47 AM PDT by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: Lancey Howard

Maybe the USMC sees a potential benefit to boosting testosterone levels in the Women Marines.


20 posted on 09/21/2011 3:17:55 AM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Lancey Howard

I’m almost glad my father (Commo Chief/Gunnery Sergeant, USMC 1943-65, WWII, Korea & early Vietnam) didn’t live to see this happen.


21 posted on 09/21/2011 3:36:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: Lancey Howard

What I hope to see and will pray for is that our new president in 2012, overturns this stupid idiotic mind controlling order. The military wasn’t broken. This seems deeper and all of this is getting out of hand because it is crazy to redesign our military. You know, I have to say, why can’t men, be men too? This reminds me of how many of republican male politicians are now-so spineless/act like girly men or afraid they will offend someone if they act strong, to the point with respect-John McCain And Lindsey come to mind-some of the elected women in DC fight for their beliefs no matter what. Now, we want our great service people/the men to be more feminized as well> or change the military, perhaps to even collapse it since this president is a Marist and a social justice truther.

Hitting head on wall, why play social experiments in something which already proves to work. It is a shame/unethical to be FORCED in a military environment as to control the enforcement in making one maintain of a feeling to respect, to accept, another person’s choice. Why make it an-issue-if you are equal, what’s the deal? Ashamed, want to mandate feelings?? Be yourself, as long as others share tolerance, be happy. You cannot force others how to think in a free open society or control someone’s mind; their thoughts. Talk about taking away our own identity of thought. Hey, whatever you don’t like, we, the government will enforce you to accept. More marches to a closed society. This is dangerous road.


22 posted on 09/21/2011 3:43:54 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Lancey Howard
Since this is coming from the New York Times, one can't help wondering how much of it, if any, is true and how much is propaganda.
23 posted on 09/21/2011 3:49:34 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("That is the great eternal question: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" ~Ann Coulter)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Like this morning’s “news” story about Chaz Bono on DWTS. Never finding the show interesting, I now have less reason to watch it.


24 posted on 09/21/2011 3:51:15 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: 101voodoo

Yes but the normal guys will be the ones who will go to jail if they say or do anything to offend the abnormal ones.


25 posted on 09/21/2011 3:51:41 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I don’t think that’s the problem. Surely any man who is a marine can protect himself if need be, and the need would be highly unlikely.


26 posted on 09/21/2011 3:52:05 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("That is the great eternal question: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" ~Ann Coulter)
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To: Ronin

That is my hope.....Lord willing we get a righteous, patriotic sold out for America man or woman!


27 posted on 09/21/2011 3:57:20 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: tgusa
"I predict the military will fairly quickly become predominantly homosexual/lesbian."

You might be right.

The greatest danger in this is that this could increase the support in the military for Democrat politicians--and consequently American decadence--and this is probably the primary motive behind it.

Another very bad consequence of it is spreading American decadence generally in the military, which has heretofore been resistant to it.

There have always been homosexuals in the military, but they have been discrete. Now, expect homosexuality to be flaunted, and this will have a demoralizing effect on the military.

Homosexual men and women can be effective combatants, which is what the military needs. What the military does not need is American decadence and demoralization.

28 posted on 09/21/2011 4:03:43 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Big Brother is not a person. Big Brother is the Federal Government.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I cannot help but think about that line of Eastwood’s in The Enforcer, when he says at a promotion board “what do you think this is, some kind of encounter group”.

Our whole society is now a functioning encountering group...who cares if the job can be done, let’s make sure no one’s feelings are hurt by being left out. After this, the most egregious example is coed submarines. “just take a few of those missiles tubes out and put in a separate shower and dorm, no problem”.


29 posted on 09/21/2011 4:07:26 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Lancey Howard

The first sentence of the article has the irony/sarcasm of Rachel Maddow.

Fitting.

\sarc

30 posted on 09/21/2011 4:13:40 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I don’t think my husband can take this anymore!
Last week I bought him the Marine Corps Times (with the homo declarations on the cover) with a bottle of single malt scotch to read it by.
I am afraid to send him the link to this story !!!


31 posted on 09/21/2011 4:24:33 AM PDT by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: tgusa

“I predict the military will fairly quickly become predominantly homosexual/lesbian.”

And at that point we will find out how far depraved degraded viciously angry and savagely self hateing people with power (guns) will go.


32 posted on 09/21/2011 4:27:48 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Funny. Now I’m reading another ariticle that the alphabet group, LGBQT and whatever, are setting up protests outside military facilities demanding ever more rights. Now that they have their foot in the door watch out. It’s never been about equal rights. It’s about special rights.


33 posted on 09/21/2011 4:38:32 AM PDT by animal172 (Please Lord. Come get the liberals.)
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To: Lancey Howard

How sad.
The Marines were once the proudest and finest fighting force on the planet. Now they will be just another sick part of our society.


34 posted on 09/21/2011 4:43:40 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: FES0844

You are wrong. Do you know the term “barracks justice”? If you are a military vet you would and this would not bother you to the extent it does. (others also).


35 posted on 09/21/2011 4:43:56 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: 101voodoo

I hope I am wrong but will wait & see what happens if barracks justice is implemented.


36 posted on 09/21/2011 4:47:53 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Ronin
I’m not so sure about that. What one President can do, another President can undo.

It would be like trying to put tooth paste back into a tube.

37 posted on 09/21/2011 4:49:13 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: FES0844

It is now. I come from an extended military family and we have several members currently serving. This nothing new, btw, it has been going on since we’ve had a military.

The EM always handle their own problems and do it in a way which seldom has to be repeated since lessons taught in this way are long remembered.


38 posted on 09/21/2011 4:50:58 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: Lancey Howard

I predict Civil War II between the Red and Blue states. I also predict that the Red State Confederate Army will not be homsexualized.


39 posted on 09/21/2011 4:54:26 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

It will be in your unit.


40 posted on 09/21/2011 4:58:54 AM PDT by usmcobra
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To: central_va

I predict ...that very few of them will actually sign up. And that very few of them will actually continue to serve.

We’ll see extrapolated stories of one or maybe even TWO marines who are serving, who appear normal, etc. ...but for the most part, things will go on as usual.

Gays never were an issue in the military — it’s our Democratic politicians who made it an issue — and who want to take the credit.

Gays ain’t gonna join up on droves ...they’re too scared to fight. Too much money in fashion and graphic design, in jouranlism, etc.


41 posted on 09/21/2011 5:02:09 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: Lancey Howard; wardaddy; archy; Squantos

Put a fork in America. It’s over.


42 posted on 09/21/2011 5:02:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: usmcobra

Still looking for male body parts on ancient photos?


43 posted on 09/21/2011 5:03:19 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: FES0844

You can bet the JAG offices will now become overrun with fags.


44 posted on 09/21/2011 5:05:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: central_va

You posted them.


45 posted on 09/21/2011 5:10:26 AM PDT by usmcobra
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To: Lancey Howard

I wonder how our gay military will fare when facing Russians or Chinese?


46 posted on 09/21/2011 5:29:10 AM PDT by Blackandproud
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To: FES0844

My husband has been an enlisted man in the army for 21 years. Barracks justice is not tolerated and hasn’t been for a very long time.

Hubby and I have discussed this issue at length and I’ve asked him what his position will be if DADT is repealed.

The thing is, he’s a by-the-book professional. He’ll keep good order and conduct and require the same, high standards with homosexual troops that he requires from everyone else.

I think that it comes as a shock to new recruits that their senior NCO’s are as involved in their personal lives as they are. In the civilian world, your boss doesn’t care if you got a ticket or got into a bar fight last weekend. In the military, holding yourself to a high standard is expected all of the time. Here at Ft Hood, senior NCO’s go out with the cops on bar patrol every Friday night. My husband has gone on a couple of these runs. They hit all the strip clubs and bars and let their presence be known. Soldiers stick out like a sore thumb and the NCO’s approach them and remind them that they are soldiers every minute of the day.

The military is not a party and homosexuals are going to have all of the same restrictions that everyone else has.


47 posted on 09/21/2011 5:59:28 AM PDT by Marie (I agree with almost everything that Perry is saying. I just wish that *he* did.)
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To: Blackandproud

I wonder how they’re going to deal with gay marriage, partner benefits, TriCare payouts, etc. Y’all know that’s coming.

As far as I know, sodomy (even between husband and wife) is still illegal according to the UCMJ. They’re going to have to change that if they’re allowing homosexuals to serve openly. As of right now, that’s a serious conflict between policy and law.


48 posted on 09/21/2011 6:02:50 AM PDT by Marie (I agree with almost everything that Perry is saying. I just wish that *he* did.)
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To: 101voodoo

You are wrong. Do you know the term “barracks justice”? If you are a military vet you would and this would not bother you to the extent it does. (others also).


During my Navy time on a carrier in the Med during a 9 month deployment, there were several sailors who went overboard during the night hours. Most were deemed to be done due to their gay approaches to men. ....As you and someone further upthread indicated, I would expect men to counter such in a similar way. ....Truly terrible decision by this government to ruin our military by allowing homos ( male and female) openly into service. They are, in my opinion very different emotionally. ...Wasn’t it a gay soldier who hacked sensitive data and provided it to Wikileaks because he was spurned by his gay lover? (Could possibly not be remembering that story correctly, but that’s what came to mind.)

Sorry for the long ramble. Topic just hit a nerve.


49 posted on 09/21/2011 6:03:24 AM PDT by octex
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To: Lancey Howard
Last night, my USMC alumni husband commented to me about a picture he saw on AOL. It was on the front page and it depicted two Marines about to kiss. He told me, "If I would have seen that when I was in, I would have landed a punch that knocked them both out.".

I was really struck by his comment because he generally never comments about current affairs and because he's always been proud of his service in the Marines. Last night, I saw that this truly hurt him. The freaks are destroying this Nation.

50 posted on 09/21/2011 6:09:17 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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