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Ground Zero Mosque Opens for Business (Today!)
Frontpage.com ^ | 9/21/11 | R Mauro

Posted on 09/21/2011 2:27:19 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

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To: Eye of Unk

Dribbling Bacon grease around the area is a mighty fine baptismal.


51 posted on 09/21/2011 6:03:05 AM PDT by Broker (Yawn.)
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To: trumandogz

A Bible study in NYC? ROFL!


52 posted on 09/21/2011 6:03:45 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: trumandogz
Would you like the current and all future presidents to dictate what each of us can do with the property that we own?

You clearly do not understand that the Constitution as the social contract that it is. Muslims have NO INTENTION of ever respecting your property rights, infidel. To them, you are not a fellow citizen deserving respect for your rights, but are instead lower than dirt. They are USING your respect for the Constitution against you, and laughing up their sleeves at what they intend to do to civic respect for your unalienable rights once they wield power. They are not participants in that social contract and are therefore undeserving of its protections. Upon reading the Quran, Jefferson understood that, and considered Islam a mortal threat to this nation should it ever be established here.

53 posted on 09/21/2011 6:05:28 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: HGSW0904

Using Amazon’s search function for “bacon bandages,” one finds not only bandaids that look like strips of bacon, but also bacon car air freshener, breath mints, wallet, soap, and toothpaste. There are nice yellow “crime scene tape” bandaids too. Time to stock up!


54 posted on 09/21/2011 6:10:14 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Heavy the head that wears the tiara.)
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To: Sonny M

Sonny, that sounds VERY plausible.


55 posted on 09/21/2011 6:15:21 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: trumandogz

Of course not.

I am sorry , but the location is beyond disturbing. Just out of respect for the people who were so affected by Muslim terrorists on 9/11, if nothing else. Why if the intention was pure does it have to be there? It is a straight out insult.
Carry-Oke siad it better then I can...


56 posted on 09/21/2011 6:18:28 AM PDT by charlene4 ("The only people who d("on’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” BHO)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
September 21 at 6:30 PM, the Ground Zero 9/11 Victory Mosque

Let's just call it for what it is.

57 posted on 09/21/2011 6:19:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Wow, just plain freakin wow!


58 posted on 09/21/2011 6:30:32 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: charlene4

Would not have happened with an atheist in the Whitehouse either.
Separation of church and state also includes separation of Islam and city/state.


59 posted on 09/21/2011 6:36:10 AM PDT by Aroostook25
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To: trumandogz; Recovering_Democrat
Not much can be done as they who own the property can do what they want with their property.

Difficult to believe; this is NYC nanny-state central with more regulations and rules than you can imagine!
60 posted on 09/21/2011 6:46:00 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: ScottinVA
Then there is the Flight 93 victory mosque.

The Flight 93 Memorial mosque (must see videos) « Creeping Sharia

61 posted on 09/21/2011 6:47:32 AM PDT by Aroostook25
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To: trumandogz

“And I don’t think any of us want to live in a country where local, state or government officials dictate who can and cannot build on their property.”

As a commercial real estate broker and someone who taught real estate law, econ, finance, and practice in college, I must ask when you plan on leaving this country. You are apparently unaware of the power such officials have over our property and property rights.


62 posted on 09/21/2011 7:00:02 AM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

What sweet irony it would be if a spotted owl or some other “endangered” bird were to roost on one of window sills of this “mosque”, delaying the opening of this POS indefinitely.


63 posted on 09/21/2011 7:01:06 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Sonny, that sounds VERY plausible.

I'm pretty much thinking it might be true, alot of these muslims folks seem to know who these guys are, and they describe them as being very shady.

The flip side (aka disclaimer), Muslims/arabs tend to be very big conspiracy theorists, so who knows, but they do have some points here (like how most of the money isn't coming from muslims in New York but from leftys around the country).

One of them gave me a pretty good idea about how this is a scam. He noted that the original cleric in charge had been telling the media, that he was going to go to iran to try and raise money. Okay. As this guy pointed out, this is supposed to be a sunni mosque, the iranians are shiite. It would be like protestants going to the pope to build a baptist church. Its for media consumption, since they don't know, but muslims do.

64 posted on 09/21/2011 7:19:02 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Ground Zero Mosque Opens for Business (Today!)

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I hope a pork stand opens up in front of the building.

65 posted on 09/21/2011 7:28:35 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Attaaaaaaaaack Waaaaaatch! Vigilancia de Ataque!!!!!!!!!)
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To: charlene4
Wonder if this would be happening if we had a Christian in the WH?

All depends upon which 'Christian'.
66 posted on 09/21/2011 7:34:26 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: trumandogz

Interesting screenname. How did you come by it, if I may ask?


67 posted on 09/21/2011 7:35:35 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama: the Unholy Won.)
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To: Diogenesis

Great pic of the twin towers, and interesting info


68 posted on 09/21/2011 7:38:59 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

What a middle finger: from both the Muslim community and the liberal elite that let them do this. :(

Anyone still think we’re going to win the War on Terror? We can’t even stop the Jihadists here in America. :(:(:(:(


69 posted on 09/21/2011 7:56:16 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I walked passed this place the other day during lunch. What a dump!


70 posted on 09/21/2011 8:59:10 AM PDT by frogjerk (Today is already the tomorrow which the bad economist yesterday urged us to ignore. - HAZLITT)
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To: Sonny M

FWIW, I don’t think all Muslims are bad. I know personally of a Christian ministry that preached the gospel to the homeless on the streets.

The parking lot they used every Sunday was that of a local supermarket—and they used it with the blessing of the (at least nominally) Muslim business owner.


71 posted on 09/21/2011 9:21:14 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Convenient timing as the UN meets in NYC..Iran’s fearless leader waving to the crowds. Israel getting slammed, US getting slammed and scammed. Is Franklin Graham going to be invited to speak at the opening (sarcasam)


72 posted on 09/21/2011 9:34:34 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The Death Star is almost complete.

73 posted on 09/21/2011 9:41:58 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: cake_crumb

....And in the end, both progressives and jihadis LOSE. Neither Israel now Christianity is going to go away.


74 posted on 09/21/2011 10:24:43 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: trumandogz

It happened in the People’s Republic of Kalifornia:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,522637,00.html

I thought the Constitution applied to all of the states, and people could do what they wanted with “their property” anwhere in the United States.


75 posted on 09/21/2011 10:49:54 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat; trumandogz

trumandogz is the resident muslim apologist.


76 posted on 09/21/2011 12:50:55 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: cake_crumb

Around 15 years ago, I was working offshore and reading David McCullogh’s bio on Harry Truman and also reading In Cold Blood by Truman Capote.

One of the guys thought it was funny and started calling me by that name.


77 posted on 09/21/2011 12:59:37 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Recovering_Democrat

“I believe you may not be aware of the zoning laws.”

As a conservative, I find zoning laws to be an overreach of governmental power that often times debilitates a property owner’s ability to maximize the financial utility of the land that they own.

However, if there is a specific zoning law in NYC which prohibits such a structure from being built in the city, then the land owners would have to comply.


78 posted on 09/21/2011 1:09:09 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Carry_Okie

You must understand that the US Constitution is not a cafeteria plan and you cannot pick and choose which parts of the Constitution should and should not be followed nor can you decide which people will and will not be protected by the Constitution.


79 posted on 09/21/2011 1:15:17 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
You must understand that the US Constitution is not a cafeteria plan

I have read the entire Federal Convention debate and the philosophers favored by the authors.

and you cannot pick and choose which parts of the Constitution should and should not be followed nor can you decide which people will and will not be protected by the Constitution.

This has NOTHING to do with picking and choosing which parts we should or should not follow. Islam is incompatible with the social contract simply because its adherents believe their claims SUPERSEDE the Constitution in its entirety.

Got it? I didn't pick and choose, Muslims did. They are not Americans regardless of the twisted fantasy that has conferred them the legal status of "citizenship" with they gladly use to dismember that very Constitution. They are not deserving of its protections because they have stated, in writing, that they seek to destroy them.

Glad to clear things up for you.

80 posted on 09/21/2011 1:59:19 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Carry_Okie

“They are not Americans regardless of the twisted fantasy that has conferred them the legal status of “citizenship” with they gladly use to dismember that very Constitution. They are not deserving of its protections...”

Could you please cite a SCOTUS case where it was ruled that Muslims cannot be American citizens and are also not protected by the Constitution?


81 posted on 09/21/2011 2:03:50 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
Could you please cite a SCOTUS case where it was ruled that Muslims cannot be American citizens and are also not protected by the Constitution?

Oh please. I don't need a ruling from a claque of lawyers to understand the principles of our government thank you. You know as well as I do that they're so busy saving us from Christianity that they would never make such a ruling.

82 posted on 09/21/2011 2:09:20 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: trumandogz

You used a great many words in that last post to say very little. :)

Basically, you aren’t a fan of zoning laws, but people still have to obey them.

Okay, we can agree on that. :)


83 posted on 09/21/2011 2:15:22 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

“Good” muslims are actually bad muslims. IOW they aren’t following the dictates of their “faith”.

And the reverse holds as well.


84 posted on 09/21/2011 4:13:13 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: trumandogz

For a few years in this country we were smart enough not to tolerate Nazis and Communists in our Govt and in our schools even though we protect freedom of speech.

Fislam is no less a danger to America.

Can we put your comments on “constitutional” tolerance on the tombstones of the next 2800 people slaughtered in America by muslims?

Islam is a religion, like Auschwitz was a THEME PARK.

AND THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT A SUICIDE PACT.

it was not designed to accommodate a “religion” whose primary theological directive is the destruction of that same Constitution, and the murder of those who would defend it.


85 posted on 09/21/2011 4:21:16 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Carry_Okie

While it would be great for each of us to live in our own constitutional fantasy world, the reality is that we live in a nation of laws and there is no law which will prohibit this mosque from being built.


86 posted on 09/21/2011 4:27:49 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Yehuda
"there is no law which will prohibit this mosque from being built."

Maybe there should be.

Congressman Col. Allen West explains islam in 1 minute and 44 seconds.

Watch it, save it and forward it.

Or ignore it at your AND OUR peril.

87 posted on 09/21/2011 5:15:32 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I am just curious. Can anyone non-Islamic enter a mosque and attend mosque proceedings? If so, we non-Islamic types should go and observe what is transpiring inside just to confirm that this religion of peace is really conducting peaceful proceedings. I think that I can enter any church in the US without being thrown out on my ear. I don’t think a mosque should be any different.


88 posted on 09/21/2011 10:52:23 PM PDT by lwoodham (There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Libloather
Park 51 raised the $70K necessary for the show, which is a "salon-style presentation of over 170 beautiful color portraits of children."

Why not presnt a showing of 170 Palestinian children wearing their official Hamas bomb belts?

89 posted on 09/22/2011 12:49:36 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: elcid1970

To be fair, their major holiday’s breaking of the fast fell on that day- it’s determined by the postion of the moon, not by what happened on a western calendar date and thus is variable from year to year. This year it did just happen that way... a coincidence.


90 posted on 09/22/2011 12:53:48 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

“Their major holiday.....determined by the position of the moon”

So the view that Islamic “Allah” is the former pagan moon god of Makkah is not that off the mark, n’est-ce pas?


91 posted on 09/22/2011 2:45:34 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Impala64ssa
What sweet irony it would be if a spotted owl or some other “endangered” bird were to roost on one of window sills of this “mosque”, delaying the opening of this POS indefinitely

Oh the environmentalist whackos would look the other way. Militaristic watermelons are not about principle; they are about destroying the WESTERN, more specifically AMERICAN way of life.

92 posted on 09/22/2011 3:29:19 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: trumandogz

A church congregation has to get permission to build in almost any jurisdiction. City everywhere limit the use of private property. My objection is that the state of New York is encouraging the Muslims in their efforts while the city in California is discouraging Christians.


93 posted on 09/22/2011 10:45:05 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: elcid1970
Another theory about Allah is that the God of Mohammed is really a kind of conflation of the many Gods of the Kabbah. They are reduced to “names”of the One God. This is different from the God of the Bible, which lays out a progressive revelation of God's nature, beginning with Abraham's understanding of God and ending with God as revealed in the person of Jesus. Some misguided Christians may think they can embrace the Muslim notion of an “Abrahamic” God, but the Muslims do not reciprocate. They do not accept the Mosaic law because the Law represents God as a benevolent ruler who punished only to teach.
94 posted on 09/22/2011 11:05:18 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

A most excellent summation of the evolution of man’s understanding of the G-d of Creation as revealed by Scripture.

And yet again more proof that Muslims worship something other than the Lord of Hosts.


95 posted on 09/23/2011 3:55:56 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: RobbyS

Would you like random citizens of New York or California dictating what you can do with your property in Texas?


96 posted on 09/23/2011 9:51:23 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Recovering_Democrat
FedEx a package of bacon

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97 posted on 09/23/2011 10:10:58 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: trumandogz

But state and local governments do dictate what you can do with your property and make you may “rent”for the privilege of using it.


98 posted on 09/23/2011 12:31:53 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I,bet there are some nice window to have mohaamobd pictures


99 posted on 10/09/2011 2:36:38 AM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I,bet there are some nice window to have mohaamobd pictures


100 posted on 10/09/2011 2:36:38 AM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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